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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Steve French posted:

New bichael day



Still needs some tweaks:

brake cables are too long; they looked close enough as they came without cutting them and I wanted to build the bike fast last night so I could ride it this morning. When I'm less lazy I'll cut them down a bit, and maybe replace the cheapo bartape at the same time.

I started with using all the spacers on the steerer, wanting to err on the side of cutting it too little rather than too much. After a ride on it, I think most of them are gonna go and I'll cut the steerer again. I erred on the larger side when choosing the frame size so slammed stem is probably in order.

I'm generally not picky about saddles, and the wtb silverado that came with this is also what I've had on a number of mountain bikes, and I don't mind it, but aesthetically it feels a bit too chonk for this bike, so I might replace it at some point.

Jury is out on the maxxis ramblers that came with the bike; I'm a big fan of wtb nanos but will probably wear these out before replacing them. Might try something a touch larger; Ibis says officially it has clearance for 40, but the gap it has now is pretty generous and we don't often get sticky mud that would cause the biggest problems with tight clearance.

Whatever you get next needs brown/tan sidewalls.

Awesome bike otherwise.

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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

iospace posted:

Whatever you get next needs brown/tan sidewalls.

Tanwalls have come and gone. Keep it simple in the current era imo.

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


smh that probably wasn't even tested in a wind tunnel

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man

HAIL eSATA-n posted:

smh that probably wasn't even tested in a wind tunnel

Needs a dropper post.

Anachronist
Feb 13, 2009


kimbo305 posted:

Tanwalls have come and gone. Keep it simple in the current era imo.



vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain
Ramblers are great tires ime.

Phosphine
May 30, 2011

WHY, JUDY?! WHY?!
🤰🐰🆚🥪🦊
I'm gonna get tan sidewalls for my commuter, just because you claim they're out.

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

If they're out that means they're finally cool

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

SorePotato posted:

If they're out that means they're finally cool

Yeah, commuter cool :stroop:

Until these cargo bikes, all my commuters were on stodgy tanwalls.

FireTora
Oct 6, 2004

So I've been searching craigslist about once a week since moving back to :911: in the fall for cargo bikes just to see if there was anything I was willing to :homebrew: on. This popped up on my search the other day and is now parked with my other bikes. Took it on a little 12 mile spin and it is a hoot to ride, might become my goto for most of my riding.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
who the gently caress is scraeming "TANWALLS ARE OUT" at my house. show yourself, coward. i will never run black walls

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



I want the tanwall Terra Speeds but the black walls are the only ones ever on sale :(

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!
I just got some all tan gravel tires for my old motobecane and it's maybe too much tan

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

I want the tanwall Terra Speeds but the black walls are the only ones ever on sale :(

I got the tan ones on wiggle last week for ~£34 each

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires
It's time for Geax greenwalls to come back

aba
Oct 2, 2013
I have to say that buying gravel exactly 2 years ago was one of the best decisions I could have made. It's incredibly fun to ride on 95% of roads around me.



The change from the the blue one (I've moved it to my 65 year old father so he can ride with me on the red when we visit my parents) was even better than I've hoped.



Fast enough on a tarmac, but incredibly comfortable to more than balance any loss of speed for the tourist I am and comfortable enough on roads I couldn't ever ride on a road bike.

Feawen
May 12, 2023

Anyone in here like retro/xbikes? Here's my early 90s Kona Lava Dome in Purple that I've been spending time rebuilding. 3x7, moto riser bars, good tires, threadless conversion and a good tune up got it back on the road... Next is some cheap $20 amazon v-brakes to add some stopping power.




Tan walls forever btw

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


#26aintdead

rockear
Oct 3, 2004

Slippery Tilde

Feawen posted:

Anyone in here like retro/xbikes? Here's my early 90s Kona Lava Dome...

That's a rad Lava Dome. It's crazy how many badass '90s Konas are still hiding out there. I'm doing a similar resto-mod thing with a Cinder Cone I bought new in '99. So far it's a carbon fork, Moto bars, and I have some Magura HS33s on the way. On the fence about whether to keep the 3x8, which is still in decent shape, or put a Microshift 1x on it.. I'm gonna do cables and housing first and see how clean I can get it shifting.

edit for pic since it's the show your bike thread

rockear fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 4, 2023

maxe
Sep 23, 2004

BLURRED SWEET STREETLIGHTS SPEEDING PAST, FAST
i sold my Kona CX/Street bike during 2019 and basically stopped riding when covid hit



Just in the last couple of weeks ive been realising what a mistake that was, and as soon as I checked marketplace this was waiting for me




just fitted some new lights to it tonight. I tried to get a janky under-stem mount working for the front light but the parts I ordered won't work.

im psyched on the bike though. Im going to throw on some smooth tyres and keep it as a flat pedal neighbourhood cruiser.

Something to do little rides around the park on a summer evening without messing around with a chamois and cleats. Also, CX bikes are the only kind of frames i can ride no-handers on, i guess its a wheelbase thing?



bikes rule, its great to be back

Peggotty
May 9, 2014

Beautiful bike!

Regarding nohanders: Shouldn't a longer wheelbase make it easier, not a short one? I don't know though, every time I try looking up what makes a bicycle stay straight I get more confused.

Crumps Brother
Sep 5, 2007

-G-
Get Equipped with
Ground Game
I thought it had to do with rake, but I'm also not an authority on that. When I moved from my first adult bike, an entry level trek hybrid, over to a full on racing CX bike I lost my ability to ride with no hands for quite awhile. I was able to ride no handed on my fat bike before I could do it comfortably on my CX bike.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014
Fun Shoe
The only bike I've ever been able to ride no-handed for more than a couple seconds at a time is my road bike, which has the shortest wheelbase of any of my bikes. And I'm going all the way back to when I was a little kid.

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice
I can't no-hand my road bike at all. But my 40lbs old hybrid with wider tires and padded old man seat I can be going downhill and just stretch all my limbs out until the downhill ends. So I don't know, I would think tire thickness aids the stability most but maybe also the weight?

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:
The easiest one I've run into was a rental steel gravel bike with 47mm tires, with a slightly too small frame - beautifully stable.

I've actually generally had an easier time on road/gravel bikes, even v racy ones, than any variety of hybrid. I think the lower handlebars might help, idk. Imo for a real test of the longer wheelbase we need some of the Big Dummy owners to put some testing hours in.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

It's a combination of wheelbase, fork take, tyre size and weight distribution all adding up to a certain amount of what I call 'trail force' that wants to pull the wheel straight when it starts to flop over one way or another. You can affect it to some extent by leaning your body forward or backward.

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015

My tandems are very hard to no-hands, so I don't think wheelbase is that huge a variable.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Do tandems have the same front end geometry as a normal bike or are they a lot steeper/lazier?

You're also (when riding alone) sitting much further forward on a tandem, to really test it you'd need to be sitting in the same place in relation to the wheelbase as a normal bike.

Really the way to do this would be to get a welder out and start experimenting with extreme geometry.

a loathsome bird
Aug 15, 2004

bicievino posted:

My tandems are very hard to no-hands, so I don't think wheelbase is that huge a variable.

Wheelbase by itself isn't, but when you increase the wheelbase without changing the rider placement then you change the weight distribution and make your own corrective ability by leaning forward or backward less effective (assuming you mean solo on the tandem, two riders is a whole different issue).

The hardest two bikes I have no-handed are a 20" BMX and my looongtail cargo bike so basically the widest possible range of wheelbases lol.

edit: picture for the picture thread-

a loathsome bird fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jul 7, 2023

Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer
So my wife and I recently decided we'd like to get into cycling, and having not ridden since we were kids we had to buy some bikes. We love the look of old vintage road bikes, but didn't want to pay the $400-$800+(all dollar figures will be in CAD :canada: money) for one in fully serviced, good condition.

We ended up getting some old 10 speed Japanese steel bikes, and set about refurbishing them at the local bike co-op. Don't have good pictures of my wife's bike before we cleaned it up, but it's a Fuji 'Dynamic 10' with their VALite tubing for $80, and mine's a BRC Campus Sport for $50. BRC was based near Vancouver, BC, and they brought in mid grade components from Japan and assembled them here in :canada:. They used Tange tubing on a lot of their bikes, and my frame was fairly light and had a bright ring when I tapped it, so I'm guessing? It's maybe somewhat decent tubing. I'm no weight weenie at ~250lbs anyways so a 1 lb difference in tubing on the bike isn't going to matter to me regardless. Here's what the BRC looked like before I sanded all the paint off:

Mederlock posted:

[First post from maintenance/repair thread]



The paint was so faded it was going white, and all the decals were mangled, so I did not feel bad going to town at it with sandpaper. Here's the frame mostly sanded down, and then after it's final coat of clear.



In-between these steps is where I hosed up. I forgot to do the proper prep stages post primer curing.. didn't do a proper wipe down with thinner and tack cloths before I started laying down base coat, I was impatient and sprayed on a cooler/humid day, and the space I was working on had tons of dust in the air that I should've blew out and ran my air purifier in for a while before spraying. As a result, the primer is sticking to the bike great, and the base and clear are adhering to each other just fine.. but the paint is chipping/scraping off the primer at the earliest sign of trouble. It still looks 10x better than before, and I plan on redoing the paint job at the end of the season with the lessons learned, using touch up paints for now until I can do the job proper.



The local bike co-op was amazing to work on these bikes at. We basically stripped and rebuilt them from the bearings up. We upgraded from steel cottered cranks to alloy square taper Sugino cranks and decent flat pedals, installed Tektro aero brake levers with Cyclocross style cross top interrupter brake levers, replaced the saddles with ones with anatomical relief, swapped the chainrings from 52/42 to 48/38, and even managed to get matched Shimano Biopace/Sugino Cycloid rings from the parts bins :sun: they're goofy as gently caress but they've certainly been conversation starters. My favourite upgrades were finding ratcheting friction shifters, a Suntour stem shifter for the Better 3/4's(easier learning curve for her) and Shimano "Fingertip" downtube shifters for me, for like $4 a pair :v: .



Here they are coming back from the last apointment at the co-op. Managed to find the hitch mount carrier for $12 at a thrift store, that was dope. The rest we finished at home.



And here they are on the inaugural ride! Bearings greased, wheels trued, new consumables, and nicely cleaned up original parts where practicable. After a good 30-40 hours of work on these bikes, it was a wonderful feeling taking them out for a nice ride around the local valley. Please forgive the spoke reflectors, my wife insists on keeping them :sweatdrop: The 27x1-3/8 Kenda Kross Cyclo tires have been great on road at full pressure, and handled gravel trails, dirt, grass and whatnot swimmingly with some PSI let out.



We happened to be heading out to the mountains for some camping shortly after the bikes were done, so of course we had to bring them along and take 'em for a spin along the beautiful Abraham Lake in David Thompson Country, Alberta. Truth be told, my wife spent more time hunting for cool rocks than we did cycling, but it was well worth it for her suffering me bringing her along through this bike building journey.

Future plans: These cranks are both 110/74 BCD with room for triple rings. We found that the lowest gear wasn't quite enough to climb the hills during our gravel ride or around the big elevation changes in our local area. For reference, it's a 5 spd 14-28 in the rear and 38/48 up front. Either we do a 5 speed to 7 speed conversion and get one of those "megarange" freewheels with a 34T dinner plate on the back, with all the redishing/axle changes/RD change/etc. that entails, or we just slap a 28T(maybe 30/32?) Granny ring in the front and find a decent triple front derailleur. Going 3X up front is certainly the easiest way to go about it, but there's been a lot of :chloe: faces when I've brought that up at the co-op...

Apologies for the :words: :effort: post, I'm just pretty stoked about these bikes, as despite them not being some mega :10bux: new bicycles with all the new bells and whistles, they're ours. We just wanted cool bikes with some history that we could modify to be fun, comfortable, enable us to go on new adventures, and do it all for as little $$ as we could get away with.

Mederlock fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jul 7, 2023

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Very happy you got bikes that fit your aesthetic goals and came in very under budget thanks to some elbow grease and resourcefulness.

Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer

kimbo305 posted:

Very happy you got bikes that fit your aesthetic goals and came in very under budget thanks to some elbow grease and resourcefulness.

Yeah, it helped that I'm unemployed currently, so I had the spare time and energy to put the sweat equity in. I think we're about.. $250CAD all in on each bike? And that could've been even less if I knew more at the start and planned out co-op shop time to only the stuff we needed the special bike tools for. Now just to dial in the fit/stem lengths/etc. To get it as comfortable as possible and Just Ride. As is they run smooth, comfortable, and we're stoked to get out this summer.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

got my new bike today, salsa warbird grx 600 1x

https://www.salsacycles.com/bikes/2023-warbird-c-grx-600-1x

i also got a few bags as you can see, an abus folding lock that i mounted on the bottom (i only plan to need to lock this up for very short amounts of time)

removing the dork disc is still annoying as hell


Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal


Twofer picture since I just got a new rack set up.

Need to chop 8 inches off the arms and it'll be perfect.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014
Fun Shoe

Mederlock posted:

So my wife and I recently decided we'd like to get into cycling, and having not ridden since we were kids we had to buy some bikes. We love the look of old vintage road bikes, but didn't want to pay the $400-$800+(all dollar figures will be in CAD :canada: money) for one in fully serviced, good condition.

We ended up getting some old 10 speed Japanese steel bikes, and set about refurbishing them at the local bike co-op.

That's great.

I've been thinking about getting an old steel 10-speed and fixing it up. Plenty of Raleigh bikes pop up on Facebook Marketplace, and old (but not vintage) Schwinns. The main thing that makes me hesitate is the fear that I'll end up with something for which compatible upgrade parts just don't exist.

Great job on the bikes.

maxe
Sep 23, 2004

BLURRED SWEET STREETLIGHTS SPEEDING PAST, FAST

Wifi Toilet posted:



Twofer picture since I just got a new rack set up.

Need to chop 8 inches off the arms and it'll be perfect.

i love that Fuji livery, a friend of mine had one in white/red, always reminded me of this


Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer

tarlibone posted:

That's great.

I've been thinking about getting an old steel 10-speed and fixing it up. Plenty of Raleigh bikes pop up on Facebook Marketplace, and old (but not vintage) Schwinns. The main thing that makes me hesitate is the fear that I'll end up with something for which compatible upgrade parts just don't exist.

Great job on the bikes.

Thank you!

Pretty sure most of the new parts you'll find that they have listed on the Rivendell website will be compatible with most old bikes, and they're pretty picky about what they'll sell and promote. On top of that, there'll be bins full of used parts at your local bike co-op that just need some cleaning up and refurbishment, and you can get something that was top of line 20-30 years ago for very cheap if you know what you're lookong for and are lucky. For instance, I'm looking at possibly upgrading to the Shimano M310 rear derailleur that Rivendell recommends whenever we make the jump to 7 speed or if we do a free hub conversion and get crazy re-building our wheel sets down the line to 650B or 700C from the 27". From what I understand, almost everything out there is compatible with friction shifting, if you're willing to skip index shifting and all the compatibility headaches that entails. There's even goofy brake levers that can take friction shifters like a MacGyver'd brifter. There's also small companies like IRD and many others making new "old" designs.

Definitely do it!

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Mederlock posted:

Pretty sure most of the new parts you'll find that they have listed on the Rivendell website will be compatible with most old bikes, and they're pretty picky about what they'll sell and promote.

There's even goofy brake levers that can take friction shifters like a MacGyver'd brifter.

These are good ideas for getting compatibility, but can be pretty pricy. The Gevenalle shifters are like $200 for example. For Raleigh bikes, the biggest compatibility might be their 71mm bottom bracket. Velo Orange used to have one, but don’t sell it anymore. Sunlite apparently makes one, but it’s for 68mm, and might not have enough threading. Probably does.

On my Raleigh, the loose bearing bb was actually in decent shape, as was the cottered crank, so I sold both for a tiny recoup.

Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer

kimbo305 posted:

These are good ideas for getting compatibility, but can be pretty pricy. The Gevenalle shifters are like $200 for example. For Raleigh bikes, the biggest compatibility might be their 71mm bottom bracket. Velo Orange used to have one, but don’t sell it anymore. Sunlite apparently makes one, but it’s for 68mm, and might not have enough threading. Probably does.

On my Raleigh, the loose bearing bb was actually in decent shape, as was the cottered crank, so I sold both for a tiny recoup.

Yeah I don't see myself getting the Gevenalle's, I'm happy with my ratcheting downtube friction shifters personally. I contemplated going to a sealed BB cartridge but my loose bearing races were in such good shape I just put in new balls and grease and haven't had an issue.

I didn't realize Raleigh went so out of their way to be.. special. Leave it to Sheldon Brown to have a great article on the peculiarities and how to get around them though! https://www.sheldonbrown.com/raleigh26.html

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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Jestery posted:

I actually didn't finish up posting my my bike here

It's all done and rides well

LOL that's amazing. The NYAN-bike

FireTora posted:

So I've been searching craigslist about once a week since moving back to :911: in the fall for cargo bikes just to see if there was anything I was willing to :homebrew: on. This popped up on my search the other day and is now parked with my other bikes. Took it on a little 12 mile spin and it is a hoot to ride, might become my goto for most of my riding.

YESSSSS. Welcome to the club. Bullitts are stupid in a lot of ways but still prob the best all-around front loader.

evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jul 9, 2023

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