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I hate using my phone for non-phone things. I only got a smartphone in 2020.
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Ok this is hilarious https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1677025203291840514?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA
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Jul 6, 2023 20:11
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Yeah I don't want anything from facebook installed on my computer.
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Jul 6, 2023 20:12
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dr_rat posted:Yeah I don't want anything from facebook installed on my computer. Cooties
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Jul 6, 2023 20:13
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Clarste posted:Someone mentioned the computational costs of generating a list but I can't imagine that that's actually relevant. Last I read, when someone posts something on Facebook, it fans out to an incoming queue for each of their followers that collect together, in chronological order, all the recent posts from everyone they follow. So when you pull up your feed, it's pulling from your queue and prioritizing the elements to decide what to show and in what order while mixing in the promoted content that comes from a separate request. I'm not sure where the idea that they're reusing database requests between multiple users is coming from given your feed isn't primarily constructed from database requests. It's a bespoke system for shuttling content between users specifically built to avoid computationally expensive open-ended database requests. They could show you a chronological list of followed content if they wanted to, for less computational cost than the prioritization they do, but they charge for higher placement so they don't.
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Jul 6, 2023 20:15
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LifeLynx posted:He's one of the biggest slacktivists on the planet. No, quote tweeting Trump and others' tweets to get in a pithy one-liner isn't doing any good. It just spreads their message and plays into their claims that the Left is picking on them. Being mad on Twitter for internet points isn't important. His nephew kicks rear end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl_8W-WtMcc Any loving questions?!
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Jul 6, 2023 20:22
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Clarste posted:"Engagement" is not the same as enjoying. Do not buy into their framing of it. Where does "entergagement" fall?
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Jul 6, 2023 20:40
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People say social media just farms doom scrolling, but that only seemed like a Twitter thing to me. Facebook and the other Meta networks are "ads thinly disguised as things your friends might share". I'll scroll past a bad meme on Instagram or Facebook and do a double-take because it looks like something one of my dumb acquaintances I followed years ago and didn't bother to unfollow might post. It harvests your data and your friends' data and things you looked at in the store and things you talked about our loud to show you things that keep you engaged with the platform. Twitter was an echo chamber of people on both the left and right screaming into the void. Nextdoor is for boomers to complain about helicopters and fireworks and occasionally share a Back in My Day style post.
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Jul 6, 2023 20:42
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Telsa Cola posted:This is a fun generational thing because here I am thinking what psychopath browses social media (or a forum) on a browser in 2023. People who touch-type.
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Jul 6, 2023 20:55
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Cataffy posted:His nephew kicks rear end Also his daughter is Katie Tiedrich who writes Awkward Zombie which was a fact that I was surprised to read. How does it feel to be a webcomic artist with the biggest poster in the world as a dad. "Honey are you ever going to get a real job" "idk dad are you" CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jul 6, 2023 |
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Jul 6, 2023 21:13
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LifeLynx posted:People say social media just farms doom scrolling, but that only seemed like a Twitter thing to me. Facebook and the other Meta networks are "ads thinly disguised as things your friends might share". I'll scroll past a bad meme on Instagram or Facebook and do a double-take because it looks like something one of my dumb acquaintances I followed years ago and didn't bother to unfollow might post. It harvests your data and your friends' data and things you looked at in the store and things you talked about our loud to show you things that keep you engaged with the platform. Twitter was an echo chamber of people on both the left and right screaming into the void. Nextdoor is for boomers to complain about helicopters and fireworks and occasionally share a Back in My Day style post. The algorithm shows you the stuff you interact with the most, and the SA politics forums are pretty much entirely populated by doomscrollers so that's what they think the algorithm is. That goes for Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and any other algorithmically-driven platform. There's plenty of boomers who've descended into doomscroller madness on Facebook and now they sit in private groups full of concentrated poison and hate. On the other hand, there's plenty of Twitter users who don't see any ragebait at all on the algorithmic feeds, because they just look at art or whatever and never click on political stuff. Twitter tends to be worse because it makes sharing so easy not just on-site but even off-site, allowing the infected to spread the tasty ragebait even to people who don't use Twitter at all. If you don't have a Facebook account, you can't see poo poo on Facebook. But even if you don't have a Twitter account, that's not going to stop the dumbest person in your friendgroup from reposting tweets to your fave Discord channels or forum threads or whatever, shoving that clickbait in front of your face complete with a link to tempt you to click on it.
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Jul 6, 2023 21:42
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Oh and in response to the threat of a lawsuit over Meta allegedly hiring some ex-Twitter people- https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/1677036691901788160?s=20
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Jul 6, 2023 21:53
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Arsenic Lupin posted:People who touch-type. Also this. Writing on the phone is like hunting and pecking at a keyboard for me, mindnumbingly slow and error-prone.
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Jul 6, 2023 22:37
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It is pretty funny that Facebook had a Twitter clone locked and loaded to release as soon as Twitter did something *really* stupid. It's not like they put it together overnight.
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Jul 6, 2023 22:52
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People complain about "the algorithm", but they don't want no algorithm, they just don't want the current corporation ad-centric algorithm. That's one of many reasons they bounced off Mastodon, whether they admit it or not. What they really want is an algorithm that serves their own personal interests, specifically, whether that's pushing their preferred political agenda, selling their personal #BrandTM, owning the libs, or even just farming social metric dopamine hits. The real value of a platform like Twitter is that there's no walls. People want their views and opinions and content and whatever shoved in the faces of people who didn't ask for it so that they're forced to engage with it, even in a negative way. What's the point of freedom of speech and expression, if no one is listening? Twitter forces people to listen to you, that's the secret sauce. For a specific, somewhat more benign example, talk to any artist on Twitter about it. While they love art-centric platforms to confer with other artists, they admit they need Twitter to promote their work to non-artists aka their actual customers, who are by definition outside their usual social circles. People who complain about the algorithm are really just upset it doesn't promote their own agenda first and foremost, not that it exists at all.
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Jul 6, 2023 23:03
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Tree Reformat posted:People who complain about the algorithm are really just upset it doesn't promote their own agenda first and foremost, not that it exists at all. This is a broad generalization since the clearest examples you give are people who are using social media as a factor of a business rather than simply browsing it. A person who isn't relying on anyone outside their chosen circle seeing their posts isn't a hypocrite when complaining about other poo poo being shoved onto their feed. If they wanted to engage with a broader audience they could seek out a popular thread and start posting there. Mastodon's issue wasn't that it didn't catch on because it lacked an algorithm, it didn't catch on because it was too complicated for Your Dad to use it and therefore was DOA, especially once the privacy issues with server owners became apparents CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jul 6, 2023 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:A person who isn't relying on anyone outside their chosen circle seeing their posts isn't a hypocrite when complaining about other poo poo being shoved onto their feed. But they are! Every time you post anything, anywhere (even here on SA, like we are right this moment!), you are trying to sell, at the very least, your opinion to an audience and hoping for engagement in return. The only people your position applies to are true lurkers who never, ever post a single thing themselves.
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Jul 6, 2023 23:12
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Tree Reformat posted:But they are! Every time you post anything, anywhere (even here on SA, like we are right this moment!), you are trying to sell, at the very least, your opinion to an audience and hoping for engagement in return. The only people your position applies to are true lurkers who never, ever post a single thing themselves. SA is a website that is what it is, one where posts are read and commented on by all. It's not social media, which by its definition used to imply a degree of familiarity between the participants.
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Jul 6, 2023 23:18
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I dunno. I'd not posted anything to twitter in the last... 5ish years and had only used Nitter to pull out RSS feeds for artists to follow, which is algorithmless and just a timeline feed. With Nitter being broken now I'm not even looking at twitter's content in any way, shape, or form aside from embeds people post on here/discord. I've engaged with people more on Mastodon in the last few months than I have on Twitter in the last 5 years despite the lack of algorithm.
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Jul 6, 2023 23:20
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Tree Reformat posted:But they are! Every time you post anything, anywhere (even here on SA, like we are right this moment!), you are trying to sell, at the very least, your opinion to an audience and hoping for engagement in return. The only people your position applies to are true lurkers who never, ever post a single thing themselves. Most people don't tweet. A small proportion of serial tweeters make up essentially all tweets.
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Jul 6, 2023 23:26
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koolkal posted:Most people don't tweet. A small proportion of serial tweeters make up essentially all tweets. Yeah, 25% of users make up 99% of tweets while the other 75% have a rounded mean of zero tweets per month. It's staggering how many people online simply do not post.
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Tree Reformat posted:But they are! Every time you post anything, anywhere (even here on SA, like we are right this moment!), you are trying to sell, at the very least, your opinion to an audience and hoping for engagement in return. The only people your position applies to are true lurkers who never, ever post a single thing themselves. Yeah and in the case of most social media, for most people, the specific audience they're hoping for is "people they actually know, who are following them/friends with them/whatever because they actually know them." The archetypal "just has lunch at x" poster isn't looking for algorithmic Engagement they just want to let people they actually know know what they're up to.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Also his daughter is Katie Tiedrich who writes Awkward Zombie which was a fact that I was surprised to read. How does it feel to be a webcomic artist with the biggest poster in the world as a dad. Isn't Katie like, a literal rocket scientist?
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Shadowlyger posted:Isn't Katie like, a literal rocket scientist? Entirely possible, I thought she had some sort of engineering thing but also thought I was confusing her with Angela Melick. If so then she works too much
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whydirt posted:Hadn't heard of this until now. More mud in Musk's eye at the very least. Considering Elon’s background I’m surprised he didn’t personally build the walled garden for black people
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CuddleCryptid posted:Yeah, 25% of users make up 99% of tweets while the other 75% have a rounded mean of zero tweets per month. It's staggering how many people online simply do not post. Lucky bastards
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hadji murad posted:Considering Elon’s background I’m surprised he didn’t personally build the walled garden for black people I'm reminded how Vine got bought up and then killed by Facebook for being too popular with black people, and then shocked pikachu face when TikTok replaced it.
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Shadowlyger posted:Isn't Katie like, a literal rocket scientist? Yup, when she isn't making comics or playing video games she is an actual rocket scientist. This is a real thing, she has an engineering degree and has made parts for things that have gone into space. Katie Tiedrich is a cool lady.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm reminded how Vine got bought up and then killed by Facebook for being too popular with black people, and then shocked pikachu face when TikTok replaced it.
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greatBigJerk posted:It was bought by Twitter. For some reason I'm always mixing that up.
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one thing I'm seeing that'll probably prevent a chunk of potentiality twitter to threads migrations is the fact that threads doesn't allow nsfw stuff
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That's a strange coincidence, this morning I woke up and decided that I was going to ignore my phone, leave it on my nightstand, and do things. By another strange coincidence, I feel much more refreshed and happy today than I usually do.
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:one thing I'm seeing that'll probably prevent a chunk of potentiality twitter to threads migrations is the fact that threads doesn't allow nsfw stuff Oh, yep, they're dead.
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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if twitter's Actual Final Death involves the site banning nsfw stuff for some reason (apple throws its weight around in response to twitter's vastly reduced clout?)
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:one thing I'm seeing that'll probably prevent a chunk of potentiality twitter to threads migrations is the fact that threads doesn't allow nsfw stuff They're not only not allowing it if they're running it the way they do FB they're actively hostile against it https://twitter.com/mistressmatisse/status/1676763121330028544 combine that with uhhh privacy concerns and Threads should be DOA Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Jul 9, 2023 |
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Jul 9, 2023 11:58
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That story is almost certainly bogus and you’ll figure it out if you spend about ten seconds thinking about it.
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Vegetable posted:That story is almost certainly bogus and you’ll figure it out if you spend about ten seconds thinking about it. Can you explain for people like me who have brains that are shaped like cubes and live in a permanent state of obliviousness?
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NAME REDACTED posted:Can you explain for people like me who have brains that are shaped like cubes and live in a permanent state of obliviousness? she probably just posted horny on main and made a dumb excuse
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facebook tracks absolutely loving everything, up to and including which devices use which accounts. it is not far-fetched to assume that the threads app grabbed details from both accounts associated with the device in questionShrecknet posted:MISTRESS SEXCREEP also it loving sucks that you're portraying sex workers as creeps, hth
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