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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Yes 420 4.43%
No 69 0.73%
Goku 9001 94.85%
Total: 9490 votes
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AndreTheGiantBoned
Oct 28, 2010
What about the fact that Threads is not launching at all in the EU, due to their management of private data? Isn't this a major issue for adoption of Threads? Or nobody cares about the European market?

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LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




Meta will probably try and lobby the EU to relax the rules, or threaten to remove their offices (read: jobs) from EU countries.

Either that, or eventually give in to the EU regulations and make do with a bit less spying on people.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

LimaBiker posted:

Meta will probably try and lobby the EU to relax the rules, or threaten to remove their offices (read: jobs) from EU countries.

Either that, or eventually give in to the EU regulations and make do with a bit less spying on people.

The EU budging is not very likely, lol - just from a month ago:
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/22/23732461/meta-eu-privacy-fine-us-data-transfers-1-3-billion

Froghammer
Sep 8, 2012

Khajit has wares
if you have coin

Serious_Cyclone posted:

:siren: INCOMING OFFER :siren:

I GET: all of your data
YOU GET: a feed of nazis pretending vaccines are satanic

[ACCEPT]|-----------------------------|[REJECT]
I'm pressing my finger on Accept on my laptop's monitor and nothing's happening, do you think this is a tech issue

geonetix
Mar 6, 2011


LimaBiker posted:

Meta will probably try and lobby the EU to relax the rules, or threaten to remove their offices (read: jobs) from EU countries.

Either that, or eventually give in to the EU regulations and make do with a bit less spying on people.

lol

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Another lawsuit I don't recall being mentioned:

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/5/23784760/twitter-lawsuit-arbitration-laid-off-employees-jams-musk

quote:

Twitter is being sued by its former employees again — this time for allegedly refusing to pay the expected cost of legal arbitration. As previously reported by Bloomberg, the suit was filed on July 3rd in the Northern District of California. It seeks to force Twitter to cover most of the costs in a slew of arbitration claims, which, of course, Twitter doesn’t want to do.

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





LimaBiker posted:

Meta will probably try and lobby the EU to relax the rules, or threaten to remove their offices (read: jobs) from EU countries.

Either that, or eventually give in to the EU regulations and make do with a bit less spying on people.

They've threatened to leave before and the EU was like "ok off you go"

quote:

European leaders, however, have embraced Meta's warning.

“After I was hacked I have lived without Facebook and Twitter for four years and life has been fantastic," Germany’s new economy minister Robert Habeck told reporters during a meeting in Paris on Monday.

Speaking alongside his German colleague, French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire added: “I can confirm that life would be very good without Facebook and that we would live very well without Facebook”.

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/02/07/meta-threatens-to-shut-down-facebook-and-instagram-in-europe-over-data-transfer-issues

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
meta: let us gently caress over your users and eat all your data forever

the EU: hmm. no

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver
meta: fine, then you don't get priority access to all of our cool VR stuff
EU: what cool VR stuff?

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

Songbearer posted:

Wait, do apps steal your data?! This is very disturbing.

looking. into. it.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I don’t really get the threats from meta and google about pulling news from Canada either in response to a bill that would force them to actually pay publishers for news they basically steal and profit from. Their hosed up algorithms got us in this mess already so they can just piss off.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

the pale white thing on the left is just a intern or engineer in a white spandex suit.

oh also the "real" bot was a piece of poo poo and they had to carefully roll out on a dolly with two engineers carefully shielding it and it could barely wave its arm.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

LimaBiker posted:

Meta will probably try and lobby the EU to relax the rules, or threaten to remove their offices (read: jobs) from EU countries.

Either that, or eventually give in to the EU regulations and make do with a bit less spying on people.

I don't think the EU has enough jobs in Meta to make this one of their concerns.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Zamujasa posted:

meta: let us gently caress over your users and eat all your data forever

the EU: hmm. no

Finally the Brexit divided no more forrin red tape!!!! :smithicide:

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





I think this is one area where the EU's endless layers of bureaucracy are a protection against being strong-armed - there's no one key person that can be pressured or bribed, you'd have to get at the whole decision-making process.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Pookah posted:

I think this is one area where the EU's endless layers of bureaucracy are a protection against being strong-armed - there's no one key person that can be pressured or bribed, you'd have to get at the whole decision-making process.

"Institutional inertia" i think is the phrase. So many layers and so many people it takes ages for anything to filter through into people who actually action it.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

I don't think the EU has enough jobs in Meta to make this one of their concerns.

Would you be convinced otherwise by a press release from facebook about unspecified future plans?

https://about.fb.com/news/2021/10/creating-jobs-europe-metaverse/

quote:

-Creating 10,000 new jobs at Facebook across the EU
-Building on our long standing European presence and putting the region at the heart of our plans to help build the metaverse

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Would you be convinced otherwise by a press release from facebook about unspecified future plans?

https://about.fb.com/news/2021/10/creating-jobs-europe-metaverse/

I might be concerned if they were going to pay EU wages. If they are, why don't they pay US workers the same?

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
10,000 meta-jobs with meta-wages.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Zugzwang posted:

10,000 meta-jobs with meta-wages.

VR wages for a VR world!

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

There are like 1000 new posts since I last checked in a day or so ago wtf happened

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Pookah posted:

I think this is one area where the EU's endless layers of bureaucracy are a protection against being strong-armed - there's no one key person that can be pressured or bribed, you'd have to get at the whole decision-making process.

GDPR is strong in the EU, so I can't imagine they will allow one corp to just go 'gently caress it collect all the poo poo you want' as every other corp will be suing to do the same soon after.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

Lord Stimperor posted:

There are like 1000 new posts since I last checked in a day or so ago wtf happened

Nothing significant.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Lord Stimperor posted:

There are like 1000 new posts since I last checked in a day or so ago wtf happened

Elon Musk bought Twitter

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





happyhippy posted:

GDPR is strong in the EU, so I can't imagine they will allow one corp to just go 'gently caress it collect all the poo poo you want' as every other corp will be suing to do the same soon after.

Yeah absolutely. The EU is by no means a perfect organization, but it has very much been a positive influence on my own country. Ireland has gone from being an impoverished backwater to an, in some ways, very prosperous society. We have some extremely big issues (there are NO loving HOUSES), but they are down to domestic policy, not EU decisions.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

I might be concerned if they were going to pay EU wages. If they are, why don't they pay US workers the same?

Why are tech wages so much lower in the EU anyway? People point to the difference in benefits or time worked, but it always seems like a wider difference for IT jobs than other industries that are going to deal with those same factors.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Why are tech wages so much lower in the EU anyway? People point to the difference in benefits or time worked, but it always seems like a wider difference for IT jobs than other industries.

because they get communist things like healthcare

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Because tech workers in the US are overpaid due to the visa system.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Zuck already tried playing the futurama "im going to runaway and bender casino!" card, the EU card his bluff.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

PhazonLink posted:

Zuck already tried playing the futurama "im going to runaway and bender casino!" card, the EU card his bluff.

he forgot to include blackjack and hookers

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Why are tech wages so much lower in the EU anyway? People point to the difference in benefits or time worked, but it always seems like a wider difference for IT jobs than other industries that are going to deal with those same factors.

Tech wages aren't low as such, they're just similar to other professional wages in the EU because there isn't VC fueled bubble.

JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019

goatface posted:

Because tech workers in the US are overpaid due to the visa system.

no worker is ever overpaid

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

I was charging at an EA station that had 2 broken stalls, a Tesla pulled into one of them but obviously the driver couldn't get it working since the screen wasn't even on, someone helpfully pointed out that there's a Tesla supercharger with a bunch of open spots literally 50 feet away in the same parking lot and then the driver said thanks and pulled back onto the main road and left? The gently caress? Is there a reason that a Tesla driver wouldn't want to use the supercharger network?

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Why are tech wages so much lower in the EU anyway? People point to the difference in benefits or time worked, but it always seems like a wider difference for IT jobs than other industries that are going to deal with those same factors.

It's kind of impossible to compare wages between countries due to a huge humber of factors.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

JUNGLE BOY posted:

no worker is ever overpaid

Not true, some tech bros are clearly overpaid.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

JUNGLE BOY posted:

no worker is ever overpaid

Ok Elon

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

JUNGLE BOY posted:

no worker is ever overpaid

No, somebody who makes 7 figures doing nothing while being technically employed has nothing to do with workers.

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.

AndreTheGiantBoned posted:

What about the fact that Threads is not launching at all in the EU, due to their management of private data? Isn't this a major issue for adoption of Threads? Or nobody cares about the European market?

Well, on a meta side of things it isn’t doing anything Instagram isn’t from a privacy perspective so you can be sure it is doing the usual graph stuff.

If I was to guess it would be data residency issues

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
VRChat is closer to a video game than a website front-end so its no surprise Meta failed at it. They should've stole employees from Epic. But its a misunderstanding of how people use computers and people aren't ready for headsets now like they weren't ready for touch screens back in the 70s-80s. If I'm lazing on my couch or home office, looking at a phone, I don't want to attach some hellmachine to my face. They have to figure a way to get the headset down to glasses size, give a little on immersion, and make it something you can do in transport.

Musk chat: He thought of this already and is suing me now (pedophile).

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Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

steinrokkan posted:

No, somebody who makes 7 figures doing nothing while being technically employed has nothing to do with workers.

maybe, just maybe, capitalism only works when the masses are uneducated. Just food for thought. Which would never happen if no one was educated

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