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CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Yea "unusuable" is not goon hyperbole in this case per the Reddit app, picture this website if you could not choose which subforum displayed threads on the one home page you can access. You just can't subscribe to subreddits on the official app and display only your chosen content, which is... the point of the site.

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Rags to Liches
Mar 11, 2008

future skeleton soldier


Heath posted:

So are you all just going to go back to Reddit once you either give in and use their lovely app or someone finds a workaround?

Nope

withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

Resist the siren call of rhinocerosness

College Slice

CJacobs posted:

Yea "unusuable" is not goon hyperbole in this case per the Reddit app, picture this website if you could not choose which subforum displayed threads on the one home page you can access. You just can't subscribe to subreddits on the official app and display only your chosen content, which is... the point of the site.

It's very much designed to benefit Reddit instead of the user that's for sure.

Prof. Crocodile
Jun 27, 2020

CJacobs posted:

Yea "unusuable" is not goon hyperbole in this case per the Reddit app, picture this website if you could not choose which subforum displayed threads on the one home page you can access. You just can't subscribe to subreddits on the official app and display only your chosen content, which is... the point of the site.

This sounds like it was done out of spite for the users.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

It’s not spite. Anybody trying to make money off social media doesn’t let people control all of what they’re seeing. This is part of why Twitter and Reddit demonize 3rd party apps. Threads doesn’t even have a following page.

Gherkin Jerkin
Jan 22, 2006

With great power, comes great crunchability...
It seems like I can tolerate about 5 minutes of the poo poo that floats to the top of /all instead my curated list of subreddits for things I was actually interested in.

Clown Suit Cowboy
Jun 27, 2023

Heath posted:

So are you all just going to go back to Reddit once you either give in and use their lovely app or someone finds a workaround?

I left because of the third party apps, I stay off because life is better. Feels like when I quit cigarettes. I realized one day they contributed nothing to my life except killing time.

kid sinister
Nov 16, 2002

CJacobs posted:

Yea "unusuable" is not goon hyperbole in this case per the Reddit app, picture this website if you could not choose which subforum displayed threads on the one home page you can access. You just can't subscribe to subreddits on the official app and display only your chosen content, which is... the point of the site.

Seriously? Why does anyone use the official app?

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy

Heath posted:

So are you all just going to go back to Reddit once you either give in and use their lovely app or someone finds a workaround?

I uninstalled Apollo at the beginning of the blackout and haven’t been back and won’t be back

NoiseAnnoys
May 17, 2010

Cousin Todd posted:

Oliver thinks they are funny, and they are in keeping with his brand of malicious compliance as a form of activism. Honestly these comments just read like "why do the protesters have to inconvenience everyone!" takes you always hear from people wildly disconnected from "the point".

John “I married a Republican lobbyist” Oliver

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Lol it's a good sign when someone's biggest burn is you don't like their wife's job

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Here's my white girl Asian food spicy take: the app is bad sure, but the worse thing was the content. Every single person who says why Reddit is good describes ways they enjoy specific things *despite* Reddit.

Your niche subreddit was always better off as a forum, Reddit is a detrimental element.

FurtherReading
Sep 4, 2007

kid sinister posted:

Seriously? Why does anyone use the official app?

If you try to look at anything NSFW on the new reddit UI in a mobile browser it goes "nope you need the app for this." (old reddit UI works fine, it's just the new UI)

That's not just porn but like spoiler friendly content, some kinds of lgbtq content, etc. So anyone from the creep looking to compliment a woman's feet on gonewild to the TV show fan who wants to explain in detail what the colour of a character's shirt really means now has to use the app.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




there's an app on my phone called safari and it's pretty good for browsing reddit as long as you go to old.reddit.com

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Doesn't old.reddit still do that poo poo with sneaking in sponsored posts? The main benefit of RiF to me was always that it never displayed awards or gold, never showed ads, never did anything besides show posts and comments lol.

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy

syntaxfunction posted:

Here's my white girl Asian food spicy take: the app is bad sure, but the worse thing was the content. Every single person who says why Reddit is good describes ways they enjoy specific things *despite* Reddit.

Your niche subreddit was always better off as a forum, Reddit is a detrimental element.

It’s a bad take for sure, especially for the video game subreddits. The Diablo 4 thread here, for example, is a making GBS threads contest to see who can poo poo on the game the most and is completely loving useless for finding anyone to play with. Zero moderation or if there is it’s just to stop people from implying the person they’re arguing with is the r word. The state thread for my state is combined with the other giant adjacent western state and is nearly completely dead. Would a forum be better? Have you been to the official Blizzard forums? Facebook groups for your city? It’s one of the few things that may break my moratorium on Reddit.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
I don't mind nuReddit and the reddit app. But the app is bad for a lot of reasons related to usability, especially on iphone. Like I wonder if anyone actually used to the app after making it.

BigSexy
Apr 21, 2020
why don’t you just use the mobile website? I dont go on Reddit much and I just use the regular website and I only see posts from communities im subscribed to. Am I missing something? Why do you need to use an app?

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Big Bowie Bonanza posted:

The Diablo 4 thread here, for example, is a making GBS threads contest to see who can poo poo on the game the most and is completely loving useless for finding anyone to play with.

Seems inaccurate, it's mostly people making detailed + informative posts about builds and game stuff

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy

Tiny Timbs posted:

Seems inaccurate, it's mostly people making detailed + informative posts about builds and game stuff

Maybe temporarily, but largely it’s I am Sam pics and people who should go play POE

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

that was like a month ago and they got probed immediately

stg these poo poo takes depend on people just nodding their heads and not actually being familiar with other threads on these great forums

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

syntaxfunction posted:

Here's my white girl Asian food spicy take: the app is bad sure, but the worse thing was the content. Every single person who says why Reddit is good describes ways they enjoy specific things *despite* Reddit.

Your niche subreddit was always better off as a forum, Reddit is a detrimental element.

So today I discovered that almost all forum software still supports RSS feeds of new posts. So you can use an RSS reader to make your one big forum or view forum posts like usenet messages in thunderbird or whatever you wanna do. The real nice thing is that anyone still using a forum actually probably cares about the forum community and if they get banned from it. If they didn't they'd be on Reddit/Facebook/Twitter where it's almost impossible. So you can have your infinite stream of niche shitposts all in one place on topics that interest you just like you get on Reddit except you don't need to share an inch of space with random CHUDs and barely-literates passing through. Imagine that.

Web 2.0 was such a mistake.

Discount Dracula
Aug 15, 2003


Nap Ghost

a snazzy tater posted:

I left because of the third party apps, I stay off because life is better. Feels like when I quit cigarettes. I realized one day they contributed nothing to my life except killing time.

:hmmyes:

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

syntaxfunction posted:

Here's my white girl Asian food spicy take: the app is bad sure, but the worse thing was the content. Every single person who says why Reddit is good describes ways they enjoy specific things *despite* Reddit.

Your niche subreddit was always better off as a forum, Reddit is a detrimental element.

Great, but that forum doesn't exist (outside of stackexchange for some of them, and lmao good luck using that) and I have neither the means nor the platform to make it pop into existence, let alone get the critical mass of a useful user base. Nobody who currently runs any of those communities is interested in spinning off something off Reddit and leveraging their platform, either (I've asked).

So Reddit sucks but it's about the only option that currently exists for some niches.

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022


:sam:?

it's well known Sean Penn was posting on SA about Diablo 2 from 2001-2003 including during the filming of I Am Sam. Learn your lore.

Konar
Dec 14, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

CJacobs posted:

Yea "unusuable" is not goon hyperbole in this case per the Reddit app, picture this website if you could not choose which subforum displayed threads on the one home page you can access. You just can't subscribe to subreddits on the official app and display only your chosen content, which is... the point of the site.

Oh it is 100% percent goon hyperbole. Know plenty of less internet brained people who use the Reddit app on their phone, don’t even know there were other apps to choose from. Now maybe for Reddit there is more power users or whatever the term should be, but I think it’s still a tiny portion of the user base who actually cares.

Konar fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jul 9, 2023

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000

Ultra Carp
If anyone wants a good phone app for it Relay for Reddit still works. The dev says he's gonna try to set it up as a subscription

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

BigSexy posted:

why don’t you just use the mobile website? I dont go on Reddit much and I just use the regular website and I only see posts from communities im subscribed to. Am I missing something? Why do you need to use an app?

The reddit website, if you aren't using old.reddit.com, shows you about 10 comments before you have to press buttons to load more or load into and out of conversation threads. Meanwhile it's loading other posts into the infinite scroll slot so you get flipped to some other bullshit.

So if you're using reddit for subs where people are actually talking about poo poo as opposed to quoting song lyrics to each other or posting memes, it really sucks. Very much designed to promote scrolling content rather than reading information.

And old.reddit.com doesn't have a mobile version and is pretty unusable on a phone.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

FirstnameLastname posted:

:sam:?

it's well known Sean Penn was posting on SA about Diablo 2 from 2001-2003 including during the filming of I Am Sam. Learn your lore.

He left with the bittorrents :(

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Klyith posted:

The reddit website, if you aren't using old.reddit.com, shows you about 10 comments before you have to press buttons to load more or load into and out of conversation threads. Meanwhile it's loading other posts into the infinite scroll slot so you get flipped to some other bullshit.

So if you're using reddit for subs where people are actually talking about poo poo as opposed to quoting song lyrics to each other or posting memes, it really sucks. Very much designed to promote scrolling content rather than reading information.

And old.reddit.com doesn't have a mobile version and is pretty unusable on a phone.
Yeah, mobile puts up a big rear end THIS LOOKS BETTER ON THE APP on everything and I'm not paying or looking too hard to find the platonic ideal of reddit apps.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

BigSexy posted:

why don’t you just use the mobile website? I dont go on Reddit much and I just use the regular website and I only see posts from communities im subscribed to. Am I missing something? Why do you need to use an app?

Apart from anything else the mobile site is filled with banners asking you to switch to the Reddit app on every page load.

Konar posted:

Oh it is 100% percent goon hyperbole. Know plenty of less internet brained people who use the Reddit app on their phone, don’t even know there were other apps to choose from. Now maybe for Reddit there is more power users or whatever the term should be, but I think it’s still a tiny portion of the user base who actually cares.

Except those casuals aren’t posting any content, it’s a tiny proportion of the user base that generates the useful content, and there’s a big overlap with 3rd party app users.

People going to Reddit to scroll incessantly through random poo poo are going to be less valuable in all respects (advertising value, generating content, making other people want to use it) than people engaged in specialist sub forums, frequently posting or helping people, often about stuff that people spend €€€€.

dc3k
Feb 18, 2003

what.

temple posted:

Yeah, mobile puts up a big rear end THIS LOOKS BETTER ON THE APP on everything and I'm not paying or looking too hard to find the platonic ideal of reddit apps.

DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN SIGN IN WITH YOUR GOOGLE ACCOUNT??? DO YOU WANT TO SIGN IN WITH YOUR GOOGLE ACCOUNT?????????????????????????????

withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

Resist the siren call of rhinocerosness

College Slice

dc3k posted:

DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN SIGN IN WITH YOUR GOOGLE ACCOUNT??? DO YOU WANT TO SIGN IN WITH YOUR GOOGLE ACCOUNT?????????????????????????????

This is the worst popup on the entire internet. Every fuckin mobile website I go to covers up half the screen with it.

FurtherReading
Sep 4, 2007

withoutclass posted:

This is the worst popup on the entire internet. Every fuckin mobile website I go to covers up half the screen with it.

On some sites all I see is a giant banner about cookies, giant banner about logging in with my Google account, an auto playing video ad and maybe a line of actual text.

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

SkyeAuroline posted:

So Reddit sucks but it's about the only option that currently exists for some niches.

There are forums for TMNT, Oldsmobile Auroras, 2stroke engines, and HVAC repair. What are these interests that everyone keeps talking about? Is this some sort of elbow fetish thing?

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Internet Old One posted:

There are forums for TMNT, Oldsmobile Auroras, 2stroke engines, and HVAC repair. What are these interests that everyone keeps talking about? Is this some sort of elbow fetish thing?

The largest sub that I have yet to find a substitute for is /r/worldbuilding. Yes, there's a lot of mediocre writing on there, but there's also a lot that's inspirational for my own project, and I like seeing what others are working on. The decent alternatives are:

  • Discord, most of which is filled with 13-year-olds spamming their super cool OCs and other bullshit, and moves too fast with too little topic permanence for any useful long-form discussion on a topic.
  • StackExchange, which takes "must be hard science fiction even if it's a fantasy setting" to new levels (to the point of thread closure or removal if you haven't already worked out all the underlying science of a subject, regardless if what it is) and is oriented around a format of questions I actively dislike.
  • We technically have a single worldbuilding thread in trad games here, but it's oriented solely towards trad game usage and it sees single digit posts a month tops
  • The various alternatives to Reddit have all had worldbuilding communities pop up... that, last I checked about a week ago, had about 3-digit users and the same activity level as the trad games thread.

None of those have anywhere close to the user base for that 10% from Sturgeon's Law to be visible, and none of them have a similarly broad purview in terms of acceptable subject matter. So basically the only thing I log into Reddit for now is that sub.

Most other subs I can find substitutes for, they just tend to be run by and consist of even shittier people than your average redditor (see for a great example: any car forum if you're not a gearhead yourself and just need some help). And/or they've moved to Discord which is terrible for a long term knowledge base. (Looking at you, Warhammer 30k.)

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy
Yeah, car forums are an actual nightmare especially if you’re a primarily mobile user like I am. UX aside the people there loving suck and a lot of the Reddit communities are pretty good about weeding out the assholes

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

SkyeAuroline posted:

Most other subs I can find substitutes for, they just tend to be run by and consist of even shittier people than your average redditor (see for a great example: any car forum if you're not a gearhead yourself and just need some help). And/or they've moved to Discord which is terrible for a long term knowledge base. (Looking at you, Warhammer 30k.)

This is a complex situation... making GBS threads up enthusiast niches with beginner questions sucks for everyone, and while you personally might be cool and take an answer, and actually implement it or otherwise solve your problem, 50 other people are complete idiots and their thread goes nowhere because they are way, way too dumb, and lack the perseverance, to see it through in a way that respects the time of people trying to help.

It's exactly like tech support. 90% of people are so loving stupid that the concept of them solving the issue they're having, even with hand holding, is basically an impossible dream. So people just end up reacting in a sour way to those kind of newbie threads, because they all peter out when the person, like... can't figure out what a task bar is.

Reddit has so many problems, and I don't use it more than 30 minutes a week or so if I need something so I'm not saying this as some Reddit Person, but this particular issue has much more to do with like... how lovely an average help-asker is and not really anything to do with Reddit specifically imo

It does totally loving suck if you are one of the few people with the disposition and perseverance to use expert help to fix your problem, for sure.

Kevin Bacon
Sep 22, 2010


please help how do i post

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Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Kevin Bacon posted:

please help how do i post

With an open heart and mind

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