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Murgos posted:Or telling you that if you don’t enlist you’re fired? It is this
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spankmeister posted:It would be an awful ecological disaster, but hopefully more localized to the plant itself and the immediate surroundings. ZNPP produces 5.7 TWH by itself? I knew it was big, but drat
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These guys must have complete confidence in their operational security https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1677576286598823936
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Syncopated posted:ZNPP produces 5.7 TWH by itself? I knew it was big, but drat It's 5x 1GW PWRs along with a 750MW PWR. It's one of the biggest nuclear plants in the world, there might be some bigger in China but ZNPP is definitely the biggest one in Europe. So I don't think it's 5TWH lol, someone mixed up their zeroes. It's still enough power generation to provide no-carbon electricity to most of Ukraine. Losing the plant to Russia was a big blow to them. orange juche fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Jul 8, 2023 |
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GD_American posted:These guys must have complete confidence in their operational security At this point security personnel's stress-related heart attacks must be a non-trivial concern for his personal protection detachment.
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orange juche posted:It's 5x 1GW PWRs along with a 750MW PWR. It's one of the biggest nuclear plants in the world, there might be some bigger in China but ZNPP is definitely the biggest one in Europe. Everyone is being very loose with units here. 1GW * 1 year ~= 9 TWh.
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Loezi posted:At this point security personnel's stress-related heart attacks must be a non-trivial concern for his personal protection detachment. Gotta admit he's drat good at the job of a wartime politician. I imagine they hate and love it at the same time.
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orange juche posted:It's 5x 1GW PWRs along with a 750MW PWR. It's one of the biggest nuclear plants in the world, there might be some bigger in China but ZNPP is definitely the biggest one in Europe. 5.75 GW * 0.85 capacity factor * 365 days = 42 TWh E;FB: 
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bird food bathtub posted:Gotta admit he's drat good at the job of a wartime politician. I imagine they hate and love it at the same time. It's amazing to see how easily he's fit into this role, like I know he's an actor and all but I remember it being a huge joke when he was elected that Ukraine voted out Willy Wonka and voted in Adam Sandler.
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It turns out that Ukraine's problem wasn't that they elected a comedian, but that there are too many joyless men obsessed with the image of their own virility in power around them.
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There were literally Russian kill teams skulking around Kyiv hunting him (especially early on), his PSD has to be one of the best out there at this point. Fairly certain I remember a story about his security team being in a firefight with him uncomfortably close to the action, somewhere around the “I don’t want a ride, I need ammo” timeframe.
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Jul 8, 2023 17:11
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I wouldn't assume Russia's benefit/cost analysis on whacking him has remained the same for this entire time.
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adebisi lives posted:I wouldn't assume Russia's benefit/cost analysis on whacking him has remained the same for this entire time. Does it count as assassination if Russia uses their one free nuke to take him out?
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Any actual stats on Russia getting their defense industry spooled up to produce weapons, as opposed to just looting Soviet graveyards forever?
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Blistex posted:Any actual stats on Russia getting their defense industry spooled up to produce weapons, as opposed to just looting Soviet graveyards forever? They tried but discovered that all the people who knew what they were doing had been drafted or fled the country already
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Icon Of Sin posted:There were literally Russian kill teams skulking around Kyiv hunting him (especially early on), his PSD has to be one of the best out there at this point. Yeah, there was an article out there that said him and his staff, some of whom had never fired anything before, were picking up AKs and ready to rock and roll. Apparently that's how close they got. Also I think the Russians went after his wife, but managed to balls that up too.
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Syncopated posted:ZNPP produces 5.7 TWH by itself? I knew it was big, but drat Its a massive plant, one of the largest in the region with six VVER-1000 reactors. Nameplate is 5700 MW. Each reactor produces about ~950 MW. not caring here posted:Yeah, there was an article out there that said him and his staff, some of whom had never fired anything before, were picking up AKs and ready to rock and roll. Apparently that's how close they got. Yeah it bears repeating that Russia tried hard to find and kill Zelensky and his family, loving pricks.
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I don't think the Russians can kill him and expect to negotiate some sort of peace, but that is assuming they are rational actors (they aren't).
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BaconAndBullets posted:I don't think the Russians can kill him and expect to negotiate some sort of peace, but that is assuming they are rational actors (they aren't). they've demonstrated their genocidal intent; step 2 after killing Zelensky is not peace.
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tiaz posted:they've demonstrated their genocidal intent; step 2 after killing Zelensky is not peace. I mean they assumed they were basically going to have to go full riot police on the population and had an actual list of people to arrest up front. And at this point there is no doubt those people would've been disappeared.
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CommieGIR posted:I mean they assumed they were basically going to have to go full riot police on the population and had an actual list of people to arrest up front. it was the soldiers travelling with their parade uniforms packed that clued me in on their perception of the situation. 
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Just Another Lurker posted:it was the soldiers travelling with their parade uniforms packed that clued me in on their perception of the situation. That and the Riot Police they though would waltz into the city.
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Just Another Lurker posted:it was the soldiers travelling with their parade uniforms packed that clued me in on their perception of the situation. That one babushka put paid to that. Still one of the hardest moments I've seen from anyone.
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BaconAndBullets posted:I don't think the Russians can kill him and expect to negotiate some sort of peace, but that is assuming they are rational actors (they aren't). The Russians won't be negotiating any kind of peace, because the kind of peace they want(all of Ukraine is theirs, Ukrainians disappear as an ethnic group) isn't going to happen unless Ukraine is completely occupied from one end to the other. Similarly, what Ukraine wants(their loving country back, reparations, war crimes tribunals) won't be agreed to by the Russians either. Even if Ukraine retakes all of their internationally recognized territory, the Russians will never recognize it, they'll be shelling across the border and otherwise starting poo poo for decades to come.
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CommieGIR posted:I mean they assumed they were basically going to have to go full riot police on the population and had an actual list of people to arrest up front. In some cases I imagine it's not so much an objection to the idea of purges as an idea of who they themselves would like to.
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Chunky Monkey posted:It's amazing to see how easily he's fit into this role, like I know he's an actor and all but I remember it being a huge joke when he was elected that Ukraine voted out Willy Wonka and voted in Adam Sandler. I strongly suspect that it hasn’t been easy at all, and has utterly consumed him beyond the limits of most leaders.
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At this point if they did cap Zelensky, he'd pretty much be the most lionized dead world leader since....poo poo, when?
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GD_American posted:At this point if they did cap Zelensky, he'd pretty much be the most lionized dead world leader since....poo poo, when? Kennedy probably
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Is Zelensky a commander-in-chief or is there a Prime Minster in Ukraine? I assume Zelensky has a lot of powers but I don't know the exact distribution. He seems to have the horse sense to probably not do more than sanity check people who actually know what they are doing, at least.
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Nessus posted:Is Zelensky a commander-in-chief or is there a Prime Minster in Ukraine? I assume Zelensky has a lot of powers but I don't know the exact distribution. Being able to actually let go of the reins and let others manage themselves after you've set the ground rules is pretty much the rarest and also most important skill in any leader or manager.
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“Hire great people and get out of their way” is a terrible way to build an organization, IMO, but giving people agency and authority commensurate to their abilities, and (importantly) their alignment with the mission, is critical.
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Nessus posted:Is Zelensky a commander-in-chief or is there a Prime Minster in Ukraine? I assume Zelensky has a lot of powers but I don't know the exact distribution. there's a prime minister, technically there's some presidential involvement but effectively it's parliament coalition suggests a candidate and then they get appointed if they win a majority vote of the parliament president is commander in chief, though Zelensky doesn't try to manage military tactics and just trusts his generals to do their job quote:https://time.com/6171277/volodymyr-zelensky-interview-ukraine-war/
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CommieGIR posted:I mean they assumed they were basically going to have to go full riot police on the population and had an actual list of people to arrest up front. what's the hypothetical here, that's exactly what they did in areas they controlled. getting rid of everyone who might cause you problems down the road (plus a whole bunch of other people who represent the decadent homo west and other activists) is just russian sop for processing a captured area.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:what's the hypothetical here, that's exactly what they did in areas they controlled. getting rid of everyone who might cause you problems down the road (plus a whole bunch of other people who represent the decadent homo west and other activists) is just russian sop for processing a captured area.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:what's the hypothetical here, that's exactly what they did in areas they controlled. getting rid of everyone who might cause you problems down the road (plus a whole bunch of other people who represent the decadent homo west and other activists) is just russian sop for processing a captured area. What the above poster said: They did that in areas they captured, but Kyiv, Lyiv, and others were not captured or ever fully controlled.
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Nessus posted:Is Zelensky a commander-in-chief or is there a Prime Minster in Ukraine? I assume Zelensky has a lot of powers but I don't know the exact distribution. Zelensky is head of foreign policy; there is also a PM appointed by parliament that's head of domestic policy (though since the parliament is held by the president's party, that's not that important right now).... and if the president is assassinated the succession line is... the speaker of the parliament, who becomes an acting(!) president which has certain limitations on their powers --- for example they might not be able to avoid high-ranking generals? (See article 112: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Ukraine,_2004#Chapter_V:_President_of_Ukraine)
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