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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Has anyone made a video on the topic of AI theft yet or can they direct me to a thread discussing this? English voice actors and Twitter have been on fire all day after Erica Lindbeck was hounded off social media for daring to ask that people not steal her voice to use in AI generated content without her consent.

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Arc Hammer posted:

Has anyone made a video on the topic of AI theft yet or can they direct me to a thread discussing this? English voice actors and Twitter have been on fire all day after Erica Lindbeck was hounded off social media for daring to ask that people not steal her voice to use in AI generated content without her consent.

Oh, but the content "wasn't making money" so it was fine to, as somebody said in the Persona thread, 'steal her voice like a sea witch.' AI bros really are the new crypto bros.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
behead those who stan who for AI

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Bro got unalived fr

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



"the ai bros were training their model with... Uh... Cheese pizza..."

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Arc Hammer posted:

Has anyone made a video on the topic of AI theft yet or can they direct me to a thread discussing this? English voice actors and Twitter have been on fire all day after Erica Lindbeck was hounded off social media for daring to ask that people not steal her voice to use in AI generated content without her consent.

Every pro AI person is a dipshit and I wish nothing but unhappiness in their lives.

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019

Trying to imagine that Indy Neidell series where they recount every single massacre and atrocity in WW2 but edited like a drama youtuber trying to stay monetised

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.
As an anecdote on the whole Youtuber/Discord thing, my girlfriend took a shot at becoming a streamer and one of the multiple things she cited as souring her on the whole thing was her associated Discord drawing in people with uncomfortable parasocial attachments. I think with the implication that since her content skewed family/kid friendly, she quickly ended up with inappropriately young people desperately wanting to be friends. :(

And we're talking someone just breaking into the scene, usually streaming to an audience of like, maybe 10 people on average. So I can't even imagine the layers of protection much larger names need to keep people at a sane distance.

Dawgstar posted:

AI bros really are the new crypto bros.

It is honestly pretty astounding how quickly and smoothly they slid from "NFTs are the future" to "AI is the future".

John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Jul 9, 2023

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
I'm in exactly one creator Discord and said creator only posts to announce new LPs and occasionally answer a question or two. No one even knows their real name.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

I'm in exactly one creator Discord and said creator only posts to announce new LPs and occasionally answer a question or two. No one even knows their real name.

its me

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Was 16-Bit a family name?

SkeletonHero
Sep 7, 2010

:dehumanize:
:killing:
:dehumanize:

I barely kn*w er!

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
oh no, another apology video, this time from someone I care about, Kommander Karl!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lA72ZT_dYQ&hd=1

how could he betray his fanbase like this with such a secret.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Captain Invictus posted:

oh no, another apology video, this time from someone I care about, Kommander Karl!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lA72ZT_dYQ&hd=1

how could he betray his fanbase like this with such a secret.

I’m incredibly scandalized. He’s morally bankrupt and I’m never watching one of his videos again.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



I'm deleting his discord

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Yeah I had to dip out of the video halfway through because it was annoying me way too much. This is serious poo poo and the constant muting and newspeak makes it seem like some kind of joke. I don't necessarily blame the creator because I get it. It's Youtube's lovely policies and the creators gotta eat. But idk, maybe Youtube isn't the best arena for this sort of thing.

I had to do the same for a creator who's videos I usually like recently because it made the video straight up unintelligable because they just cut out so many words I had to actually stop and turn subtitles on and read them to know what was even going on anymore. Personally I'll take the goofy fake talk of people getting graped and sewersliding or whatever over someone making a super serious video about how the blank blank war was won by the allies after blank blanked himself and the blank fell apart, and america blanked the blank.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Honest Thief posted:

not related to the video or account but it's so weird to me that because of the algo people have to mute stuff like Hitler's name or Nazi like it's a rap radio edit or do wordplays

As I understand it a lot of those practices just come from the content creators themselves editing or substituting speech that they believe will please the algorithm. It's not like there's a universal rulebook you can look at anywhere so it's mostly just people copying whatever someone else is doing. Other youtubers don't edit or censor any of that and seem to do just fine for themselves so it's maybe a dash algorithm with a whole lot of superstition.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I got around to watching some more of Matttt's stuff, and this video is really great. maybe needs a little more editing and revising to cut out a few "but it didn't end there!" lines, but it's a great, concise view on the origin of the teenage mutant ninja turtles as an indie project into the juggernaut it is today. I didn't know a lot of this stuff. I THINK I have one of the old graphic novels in a cabinet, I should fish that out. I never actually read any of the original TMNT run of comics, despite being all in on the ninja turtles poo poo when I was a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMDp9T_4bDs&hd=1

It's pretty cool that apparently, after all that time, all the reboots and under different writers and artists, the two of them came together a couple times to continue that original run of comics and with the final collaboration between the two, finished the original series once and for all. that's really neat.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once

Honest Thief posted:

not related to the video or account but it's so weird to me that because of the algo people have to mute stuff like Hitler's name or Nazi like it's a rap radio edit or do wordplays

its truly embarrassing lol.

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



my favorite creator discord the creator exclusively talks about whatever gacha games he's currently playing and makes fun of anyone who actually tries to talk about any of the videos he makes

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once

Endorph posted:

creator discords are fine if they just talk about video games and poo poo but every discord needing to have a 'vent about your irl stuff' channel is insane. we all met because of us liking a guy who talks about icarly on youtube. lets talk about my trauma.

i keep warning people that setting up your own fanclub is a great way to cause endless avoidable problems lol. it seems like they exist exclusively so that people can sexually harass each other

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

TheFlyingLlama posted:

my favorite creator discord the creator exclusively talks about whatever gacha games he's currently playing and makes fun of anyone who actually tries to talk about any of the videos he makes

My current favorite creator discord is chill and everyone in it makes fun of the creator all the time. It's a good vibe.

I think my takeaway is that a creator has to actively foster the community they want. If you don't want your chat to be parasocial creeps, you have to shut that poo poo down immediately or otherwise it gets out of control

Clerical Terrors
Apr 24, 2016

I'm so tired, I'm so very tired
It amazes me still that when creator discords first took off a bunch of them had NSFW channels. IIRC some big name's discord had to nuke theirs from orbit after some minors started posting their candid pictures in there and lied about their age.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Clerical Terrors posted:

It amazes me still that when creator discords first took off a bunch of them had NSFW channels. IIRC some big name's discord had to nuke theirs from orbit after some minors started posting their candid pictures in there and lied about their age.

When I played WoW classic the Goon guild I joined had a NSFW channel. They seem to be just, like, a thing that exists in a lot of gaming Discords. It's weird.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Skippy McPants posted:

When I played WoW classic the Goon guild I joined had a NSFW channel. They seem to be just, like, a thing that exists in a lot of gaming Discords. It's weird.

I paid for the Streetfight radio Patreon for awhile for the bonus shows and it had a discord link and even they had a NSFW channel. I didn’t stick around long after seeing that so I couldn’t tell you what was in there.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Reminds me how back in the 00s when the official Wizards of the Coast forum was still big, they had a NSFW subforum despite being an official company forum.

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

A lot of discords I am on have a policey that anything *vaugely* saucy - to the point of "lol, this eggplant looks like a dick" - goes in the #nsfw channel.

Just because it's labeled #nsfw doesn't mean that it's someone's nudes.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Standing by the road, looking for a lift, seductively rolling back the foil on my pan of eggplant parmesan.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
The big problem with maintaining and managing a not safe for work channel for any kind of mixed audience is that it requires a moderating team willing and able to soberly read every single post in that channel, filter it for explicitly illegal content, enforce tagging and CW rules, and set policy all while dealing with the kinds of users who want to share their spank material with other fans of, uh, Alpharad I guess.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




I was just asking to get an idea of where it is a problem because I'm in 4 creator discords (3 about podcasts, one for LPers) and none of them even have NSFW channels. Everything else is either artist following thanks to twitter slowly falling apart like a jalopy in a 1954 Looney Tunes cartoon or the goon Genshin Impact one with a general 'Don't post porn' rule so my idea of what is or isn't crazy to post was way skewed. :v:

It's one thing to be in the Townsends discord and someones posting art of him as a blonde stacked like Jessica Rabbit buying wonderbread vs 'Guy who keeps getting every form of artblock known to man and does Kingdom Hearts doodles of every possible crossover imaginable when people throw him suggestions' discord.

RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Jul 10, 2023

side_burned
Nov 3, 2004

My mother is a fish.

Welp this has been a long time coming.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


The previously mentioned Jack and Jill video is also really funny. Mostly because of the cameos that hit differently in 2023.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

muscles like this! posted:

The previously mentioned Jack and Jill video is also really funny. Mostly because of the cameos that hit differently in 2023.

I saw Nick Swardson and thought there was no way it would get worse and then it kept getting worse

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

DoctorWhat posted:

The big problem with maintaining and managing a not safe for work channel for any kind of mixed audience is that it requires a moderating team willing and able to soberly read every single post in that channel, filter it for explicitly illegal content, enforce tagging and CW rules, and set policy all while dealing with the kinds of users who want to share their spank material with other fans of, uh, Alpharad I guess.

Those discords, while all fandom discords being open to all, are all small enough that their total member counts are sub-50 and their regulars are probably sub-20 at the biggest.

I also follow the podcast for "Worldbuilding for Masochists" which offical discord is 400+ and has a #nsfw topic... but as it's a podcast for, well, worldbuilding and "how a culture views sex" is a fairly important topic that makes sense.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

Twincityhacker posted:

Those discords, while all fandom discords being open to all, are all small enough that their total member counts are sub-50 and their regulars are probably sub-20 at the biggest.

I also follow the podcast for "Worldbuilding for Masochists" which offical discord is 400+ and has a #nsfw topic... but as it's a podcast for, well, worldbuilding and "how a culture views sex" is a fairly important topic that makes sense.

Okay? That makes sense, sure. But that's not a good fit for every community. For example, the official discord affiliated with the Transformers Wiki does not and will never have an NSFW channel for reasons that should be obvious.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

DoctorWhat posted:

Okay? That makes sense, sure. But that's not a good fit for every community. For example, the official discord affiliated with the Transformers Wiki does not and will never have an NSFW channel for reasons that should be obvious.

This is Kiss Players erasure.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

DoctorWhat posted:

Okay? That makes sense, sure. But that's not a good fit for every community. For example, the official discord affiliated with the Transformers Wiki does not and will never have an NSFW channel for reasons that should be obvious.

actually you'll find transformers is a metaphor for circumcision and the NSFW is justified

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Let Transformers fans be horny

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



i know i watched that new transformers film but i can't remember most of what occurred in it

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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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I wanted a nws part of a discord i was on because I posted pictures of gross food and people got mad at me.

Gross food makes me fuckin laugh okay

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