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mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

doomerism > doomism

# ? Jul 10, 2023 08:37

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# ? May 23, 2024 06:20

AceClown: Sep 11, 2005

Bdoomerism

# ? Jul 10, 2023 08:47

silicone thrills: Jan 9, 2008; I paint things

If we stopped using all fossil fuels and plastics ill allow them to call me a stupid doomer.

Oh? Oh? Every plan to even slow down polluting has 10 more years to go and no mechanisms to hold anyone to the plans? Lmao. Lol.

silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 09:08 on Jul 10, 2023

# ? Jul 10, 2023 08:47

toggle: Nov 7, 2005

no one ever thinks of the poor shareholders

we can�t stop burning, it will hurt their feelings

# ? Jul 10, 2023 09:02

Nocturtle: Mar 17, 2007

Bad news for this thread, a Penn State media prof ran a small sample online survey study (n=130):

quote:

Doom-and-gloom climate news may scare but also encourage audiences
Date: July 7, 2023
Source: Penn State
Summary:
Researchers investigated how seeing frightening news about climate change day after day may shape the way people feel about the phenomenon and how willing they are to take action to address it.

A team of Penn State researchers investigated how seeing frightening news about climate change day after day may shape the way people feel about the phenomenon and how willing they are to take action to address it.

Christofer Skurka, Jessica Myrick and graduate student Yin Yang found that seeing bad news about climate change can make people more afraid over time, but it also may encourage audiences to think about what society can do to address the problem. They published the results of two separate studies in an article titled "Fanning the flames or burning out? Testing competing hypotheses about repeated exposure to threatening climate change messages," which appeared in the journal Climatic Change.

"The public is surrounded by media coverage about climate change, and this messaging tends to be negative in tone, focusing on the threats that climate change poses to human prosperity and ecological health," said Skurka, the paper's lead author and an assistant professor of media studies in the Donald P. Bellisario College of Communications. "We know from years of research in the field of communication that media messaging can impact our emotions, our beliefs and, in turn, sometimes our behavior."

The first study involved exposing participants to three days of negative news stories about climate change. A follow-up study consisted of participants reading negative news headlines about climate change in the form of Twitter posts for seven consecutive days.

"We found that three days in a row of reading doom-and-gloom news stories about climate change was linked to greater fear and less hope, which can potentially hurt an audience's attitude that they can do anything to tackle the problem," said Myrick, the Donald P. Bellisario Professor of Health Communication and co-funded faculty member of the Institutes of Energy and the Environment. "However, our follow-up study had people look only at headlines and not full news stories for a longer period of seven days in a row. In that study, we found that fear peaked after a few days and then held steady."

The researchers reported that over time, people who repeatedly saw climate change headlines started to feel like they could do more to affect change and that the topic of climate change was important.

"You would think that as people are repeatedly exposed to threatening climate news devoid of solutions content that their efficacy beliefs will decrease over time," Skurka said. "We saw the opposite pattern in our second study. People's efficacy beliefs increased over time. In other words, the more exposure people had to these threatening news stories each day, they were increasingly likely to think that they can make a difference in addressing climate change."
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"For communication to be most impactful, people need to feel like there is still something we can do about it to make a difference," Myrick said. "That should hopefully motivate reporters and strategic communicators to include information about solutions to climate change in their messaging."

Interesting observation that people repeatedly exposed to low-info climate news headlines in fact became more hopeful that something could be done. They essentially documented the coping process.

However the most relevant observation was that three days of reading "doom-and-gloom" climate news was associated with greater fear and less hope. How many days are readers of this thread up to?

# ? Jul 10, 2023 10:30

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

Hubbert posted:

https://i.imgur.com/bWdlyoi.mp4

lol

# ? Jul 10, 2023 10:39

Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

Nocturtle posted:

Bad news for this thread, a Penn State media prof ran a small sample online survey study (n=130):

Interesting observation that people repeatedly exposed to low-info climate news headlines in fact became more hopeful that something could be done. They essentially documented the coping process.

However the most relevant observation was that three days of reading "doom-and-gloom" climate news was associated with greater fear and less hope. How many days are readers of this thread up to?

think I'm coming up on 4000

# ? Jul 10, 2023 10:49

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/MatthewCuyugan/status/1678296787759816704

# ? Jul 10, 2023 10:51

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

relax, enginers will invent something like fusion if things get bad. the smartest people always find a way when times get tough

# ? Jul 10, 2023 11:21

Rock Puncher: Jul 26, 2014

quote:

Without any action, the report says emissions produced by Australia's plastic consumption will double by 2050.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-10/plastic-waste-report-marine-conservation-society-wwf/102582230
i'm doing my part

# ? Jul 10, 2023 11:23

Radical 90s Wizard: Aug 5, 2008; ~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Blockade posted:

My collapse plan is to start printing and laminating porn

Who run cum town

https://youtu.be/HWGSNdKJK7I

# ? Jul 10, 2023 12:29

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Nocturtle posted:

However the most relevant observation was that three days of reading "doom-and-gloom" climate news was associated with greater fear and less hope. How many days are readers of this thread up to?

that�s the �crack�. you have to keep reading well beyond that point for the hopeless fear to give way to mirthless dissociative laughter, or more colloquially the �ping�

# ? Jul 10, 2023 12:41

Koirhor: Jan 14, 2008; by Fluffdaddy

Same as covid, if things were actually that bad surely someone would do something about it

# ? Jul 10, 2023 12:54

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

Soggy Muffin posted:

https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1678090318082633728?s=20

Vote!

why is it guys like Mann say what i say and aren't called doomers? like he's talking about rapid controlled fossil fuel industry degrowth right there.

oh right, i keep correctly predicting we'll do far less than we need to when i say we need to do that.

# ? Jul 10, 2023 13:33

Rock Puncher: Jul 26, 2014

wondering if people will burn the porn for heat or if it will be hot enough already

this is important

# ? Jul 10, 2023 13:37

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Rock Puncher posted:

wondering if people will burn the porn for heat or if it will be hot enough already

this is important

you're not thinking correctly
pro-tip: friction creates heat

# ? Jul 10, 2023 13:47

Rock Puncher: Jul 26, 2014

that... that's not how you do a hand drill

# ? Jul 10, 2023 13:49

Paradoxish: Dec 19, 2003; Will you stop going crazy in there?

Cold on a Cob posted:

why is it guys like Mann say what i say and aren't called doomers? like he's talking about rapid controlled fossil fuel industry degrowth right there.

oh right, i keep correctly predicting we'll do far less than we need to when i say we need to do that.

yeah, it's the second part that's missing

you can walk right up to the radical change line and generally be okay if your tone is optimistic, mostly because people don't really stop to consider what massive degrowth will mean for them personally

you cross the line into doomerism when you either admit that we won't do it or you start giving details that make it clear that degrowth will mean substantial lifestyle changes right away

# ? Jul 10, 2023 15:05

SixteenShells: Sep 30, 2021

coating my dick in sawdust and pine tar to start my daily fire

# ? Jul 10, 2023 15:07

Car Hater: May 7, 2007; wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
WolfBike!
WolfBike!
ARROOOOOO!

Paradoxish posted:

yeah, it's the second part that's missing

you can walk right up to the radical change line and generally be okay if your tone is optimistic, mostly because people don't really stop to consider what massive degrowth will mean for them personally

you cross the line into doomerism when you either admit that we won't do it or you start giving details that make it clear that degrowth will mean substantial lifestyle changes right away

"Everyone else's productivity will have to go down 99%, not ours, we're SUsTAiNaBLe!"

# ? Jul 10, 2023 15:44

Crazypoops: Jul 17, 2017

I've excepted my fate as a peasant. I only ask that a funny sign be hung from my hanging corpse

# ? Jul 10, 2023 15:55

Tungsten: Aug 10, 2004; Your Working Boy

Crazypoops posted:

I've excepted my fate as a peasant. I only ask that a funny sign be hung from my hanging corpse

nothing special about being a temporarily embarrassed millionaire

# ? Jul 10, 2023 16:48

RandomBlue: Dec 30, 2012; hay guys!; Biscuit Hider

Soggy Muffin posted:

https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1678090318082633728?s=20

Vote!

wow that's all we have to do? sweet!

# ? Jul 10, 2023 16:56

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Lol politicians have fully shifted from �We gotta do something by ~~2100~~ 2050!� To �Climate change is here and loving us, get used to it.�

# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:02

nomad2020: Jan 30, 2007

Day in the life from the frontlines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSXM4vof-7c

# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:04

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Crazypoops posted:

I've excepted my fate as a peasant. I only ask that a funny sign be hung from my hanging corpse

I've accepted my fate as a pheasant. I only ask that a funny sign be hung from my hanging corpse

# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:08

Actuary X: Jul 20, 2007; Not really the best actuary in the world.

I live in a very rural area, and a few times a day I generally here the Amish go by in their horse-drawn cart. It's a good reminder that I don't really need a car (and a lot of other stuff), it is a choice that I have made, consciously or not.

# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:13

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Yeah right idiot you think we have horses for 8 billion people? Do you know how much daily, unpaid labor you need to expend to keep just one horse?

# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:21

silicone thrills: Jan 9, 2008; I paint things

Walking places: too loving hard

# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:34

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Soggy Muffin posted:

https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1678090318082633728?s=20

Vote!

Just Stop Polluting doesn't have a very good ring to it.

Let's workshop this.

Just Stop... something.

Hmm.

Well I'm sure we'll think of something and then we can attach it to a movement which will be welcomed and accepted by liberals and absolutely NO hand-wringing will occur

# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:47

Blockade: Oct 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/US_Stormwatch/status/1678121372420132866

# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:58

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Im sure the fish love the bathtub warm water.

# ? Jul 10, 2023 17:59

Actuary X: Jul 20, 2007; Not really the best actuary in the world.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Yeah right idiot you think we have horses for 8 billion people? Do you know how much daily, unpaid labor you need to expend to keep just one horse?

Okay

I know this guy, he has a farm. Raises sheep and goats.
He will not take payment for anything he produces. He will only give things away.
He has feasts at his farm, show up and he will feed you. Has a giant pot of stew, lamb and beets. It's pretty good.

He will accept gifts, but only if they are freely given with no expectation of getting something in return, not as bartering.

He has lots of people telling him, "You can't do that! It's not practical!" But that is what he is doing. People give him stuff, because they like what he is doing. Some people go work on his farm, helping him out. But they don't get paid.

Engaging in the money economy is a choice, and he thinks it is a bad choice that should be avoided. Real community, he thinks, is not transactional. He is interested in building community, something that is sorely lacking in the US.

# ? Jul 10, 2023 18:07

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Nice

How much does a farm cost?

# ? Jul 10, 2023 18:25

Fell Mood: Jul 2, 2022; A terrible Fell look!

Actuary X posted:

Okay

I know this guy, he has a farm. Raises sheep and goats.
He will not take payment for anything he produces. He will only give things away.
He has feasts at his farm, show up and he will feed you. Has a giant pot of stew, lamb and beets. It's pretty good.

He will accept gifts, but only if they are freely given with no expectation of getting something in return, not as bartering.

He has lots of people telling him, "You can't do that! It's not practical!" But that is what he is doing. People give him stuff, because they like what he is doing. Some people go work on his farm, helping him out. But they don't get paid.

Engaging in the money economy is a choice, and he thinks it is a bad choice that should be avoided. Real community, he thinks, is not transactional. He is interested in building community, something that is sorely lacking in the US.

I know this is a bit, but I know dumbasses in real life that really do think this way. They always leave out that it can't scale to billions of people, so massive depopulation is required to try it.

Also never can explain how the needed manufacturing fits in. Everything on that guys farm that he can't make by hand, from metal implements to chicken wire to worm medicine for the goats to boards and nails to repair the barn, where does it come from?
Guys like that only have the privileged luxury to not participate because everyone else does.

# ? Jul 10, 2023 18:31