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Radpower was my first ebike but at the end of the day I wish I had done more research before buying from them. For just a bit more I could have bought a gazelle or specialized from a local shop and had.superior bike with superior equipment. Radpower was great at being an introduction and making me want MORE out of the experience.
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Twerk from Home posted:The Specialized Globe Haul ST looks laser targeted to take Rad's market share: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/haul-st/p/200057 The price is a huge problem. Some people see the cheapest bike and can't move off of it. Speaking of price, Cannondale is having a sale: https://www.cannondale.com/en-us/bikes/electric/e-fitness/treadwell-neo/treadwell-neo-2-eq Hub motor, 8 speed, and only class 1 250W, but hydro brakes and some real support. $1400 for that spec is way more attractive than a similarly priced Rad.
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As someone with a rad bike i literally only bought it because they seemed to have actual support/service at the time, which was unfortunately right before they apparently started to implode in slow motion, and now they clearly don't so I wouldn't recommend them to anyone If you're paying $1500+ for an ebike I still think that being able to get it serviced is more important than the specs though mystes fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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I'm moving to San Diego and getting a commuter bike for the ~6 mile commute (each way, some hills though I think not too bad on my route) which I'll also use for grocery runs. Someone recommended the Specialized Turbo Vado 3.0: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-vado-3-0-igh/p/206167 Does that seem reasonable (it's about the top of my budget)? Biggest potential worries are some negative reviews on the site, and it's a class 1 -- how helpful are throttles for commuter bikes?
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Jul 11, 2023 03:48
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I am not a Rad hater. But their new version of RadRunner list price is like $2500 compared to $1600 previous year model. It just makes no sense. I don't wish them to implode like Boosted Board or something but I won't recommend them either.
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Jul 11, 2023 03:49
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Twerk from Home posted:The Specialized Globe Haul ST looks laser targeted to take Rad's market share: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/haul-st/p/200057 Oh hey! It's not often I get to see a production ebike with a price tag that makes me feel pretty good about how much I spent on my Surly BBSHD build.
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stephenthinkpad posted:I am not a Rad hater. But their new version of RadRunner list price is like $2500 compared to $1600 previous year model. It just makes no sense. If Rad fully implodes there will be no source of 22x3.0 tires and all Radwagon owners will be left to follow the intrepid few who have already started putting motorcycle tires on. I feel like motorcycle tires on a bicycle are a terrible idea but I can't really voice why. https://old.reddit.com/r/RadPowerBikes/comments/tkq9zq/i_replaced_my_radwagon_4_rear_tyre/ Consensus is that they're way heavier, stiffer, make the bike slower but it's better than dealing with Rad. Out of curiosity I called two local shops who both told me they are outright incapable of sourcing any tube or tire that size.
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mystes posted:As someone with a rad bike i literally only bought it because they seemed to have actual support/service at the time, which was unfortunately right before they apparently started to implode in slow motion, and now they clearly don't so I wouldn't recommend them to anyone
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Twerk from Home posted:This feels like a really bad sign if Rad Power is fully leaving the European market. Was their stuff not as competitive there? Regulatory environment is somehow worse? Company is struggling to stay afloat in general? kimbo305 posted:The price is a huge problem. Some people see the cheapest bike and can't move off of it. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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Jul 11, 2023 14:07
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evil_bunnY posted:They're pretty mid, and not at all what the average euro buyer is looking for. Nobody gives a poo poo about balloon tires here (or stupid proprietary tires sizes for that matter) etc What's so wrong with the Haul ST? To me it looks like Rad done right, and it's in the same price ballpark as the Radrunner 3. Somehow the Radrunner 3 is $2,300 MSRP, which is a big ask: https://www.radpowerbikes.com/products/radrunner-3-plus-electric-utility-bike. We're talking about maybe selling the Radwagon and getting something moderately nicer, but the market of bikes that can carry a big kid is pretty small. What's popular on the Euro market that makes Rad so uncompetitive there? I get that the right answer is a front loader, but those seem to be entirely $6k+ and in a different price bracket, and also seem to really require a garage. We don't have a garage, and carrying the Radwagon up and down a few steps is about my limit. I don't see any way that I'd be comfortably carrying a front-loader.
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Jul 11, 2023 14:39
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Haul ST is billed as a cargo bike but it has a really under sized rear rack. And its too low to sit an adult. It's like the El Camaro of ebikes. The Rad runner is the Aztek of ebikes. Its ugly as gently caress but its more practical. Also the actual price is lower because Rad can't possibly trick people into paying $2500 for one. stephenthinkpad fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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Jul 11, 2023 18:08
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Neurostorm posted:I'm moving to San Diego and getting a commuter bike for the ~6 mile commute (each way, some hills though I think not too bad on my route) which I'll also use for grocery runs. Someone recommended the Specialized Turbo Vado 3.0: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-vado-3-0-igh/p/206167 I have a Turbo Vado 4.0 that I use mostly for tooling around and occasionally for commuting. I've never had an interest in a throttle on my bike(s). I love it, the 3.0 sounds perfect for your use case.
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stephenthinkpad posted:Haul ST is billed as a cargo bike but it has a really under sized rear rack. And its too low to sit an adult. I don't think it's for everyone. It's got some clear limitations given its wheelbase and wheel size. Couldn't find a picture for the Globe Haul, but here's a Blix Dubbel with 4cm more chainstay:  Awkward as expected even for a small adult but doable with the pegs Spec sells. The Globe's saddle is tellingly very thick. It seems to be geared to modular mounting options at the traditional points: front and rear panniers, front and rear rack, and seems actually powerful and stout enough to carry things roughly evenly balanced across those points. Perfect if you want to haul 200lbs of gravel.
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Nessus posted:Uhh... I was able to get a replacement tube at my local bike store I guess, but I forget which model I have. It has fat tires but they may be normal fat tires. If they're really making GBS threads the bed then I guess I'll use this thing until it breaks down and then pray God, I suppose It's been fine so far, but it seems like if there's a problem it's hard to get service from rad now so I'll probably have to figure it out myself and I didn't really want to have to learn how all the ebike-specific stuff works I have no real complaints with the actual design because it's fine for the types of situations/places where I'm using the ebike The brakes may not be the best and it was my first bike with disc brakes but I'm getting a mountain bike so I'll presumably have to actually learn how to adjust disc brakes now anyway 
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Jul 11, 2023 20:31
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mystes posted:The brakes may not be the best and it was my first bike with disc brakes but I'm getting a mountain bike so I'll presumably have to actually learn how to adjust disc brakes now anyway If your mountain bike is decent, it'll have hydro brakes, which are certainly worth learning to service, but it wouldn't have much crossover with low tier cable calipers on a Rad. Swapping the Rad's brakes for some TRP Hy/Rds or Yokozuna Ultimos would do wonders, but it'd be a gamble throwing good money after bad.
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kimbo305 posted:If your mountain bike is decent, it'll have hydro brakes, which are certainly worth learning to service, but it wouldn't have much crossover with low tier cable calipers on a Rad. Swapping the Rad's brakes for some TRP Hy/Rds or Yokozuna Ultimos would do wonders, but it'd be a gamble throwing good money after bad.
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does anyone have any recommendations for a ladies’ full-face DOT helmet that are more cutsie and less Crotch Rocket Cool Kid? i saw a couple vespa brand DOT moped helmets, but they didn’t have any chin/mouth protection. the super73 is sick, but it has too much sauce for just a bike helmet and gf has got a lot of smarts rattling around up there.
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My RadMission is a very meh bike. Definitely not terrible, but has such shortcomings that I now know what I explicitly don't want in an e-bike. I just remind myself that I got it on clearance and that nothing even comes close to it in value.
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I am totally lost in all of the options, but if I have about a 6000 dollar budget what bikes should I look at for regular city riding outside of the turbo Vado and the gazelle series?
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Jul 11, 2023 23:58
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Is there a difference in how much the 2023 vs earlier versions of the Vado use the app? It seems like it is highlighted more on the most recent models page, and I am a bit leery of apps instead of on bike controls, but I may be totally misunderstanding
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Twerk from Home posted:What's so wrong with the Haul ST? To me it looks like Rad done right, and it's in the same price ballpark as the Radrunner 3. Somehow the Radrunner 3 is $2,300 MSRP, which is a big ask: https://www.radpowerbikes.com/products/radrunner-3-plus-electric-utility-bike. The euro market has a bunch of affordable front loaders to begin with, and a myriad of extended/long tail designs in most price brackets. You only see those dumbass balloon tires on throttle-centric moped-like chinese gray imports, which is probably half the reason I hate them. kimbo305 posted:I don't think it's for everyone. It's got some clear limitations given its wheelbase and wheel size. kimbo305 posted:Perfect if you want to haul 200lbs of gravel. TenementFunster posted:does anyone have any recommendations for a ladies’ full-face DOT helmet that are more cutsie and less Crotch Rocket Cool Kid? i saw a couple vespa brand DOT moped helmets, but they didn’t have any chin/mouth protection. https://www.amazon.com/Wangbadan-Motorcycle-FMVSS-218-Certification-Standard/dp/B088PK24DF/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2KET3WWA0V0BZ realtalk: if you want a DOT/ECE helmet there's really not much variation in styles, and retro/cutesy full face designs tend to have poo poo visibility because engineering and materials were poo poo and they erred on the side of caution. i'd get something like an arai rapide neo in number blue. it's got cool paint. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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Jul 12, 2023 01:12
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evil_bunnY posted:The haul ST is what happens when you apply american school of pickup truck design to a Tern GSD/HSD. What Tern-equivalent bikes are there around the Haul price? I think I may end up just sucking it up and getting a Tern HSD anyway, tbf. I made the mistake of test riding it right after a much more expensive Riese and Muller, but the ride was still solid and the cargo capacity is great. Being able to store it so vertically is also a pretty big plus.
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evil_bunnY posted:i'd get something like an arai rapide neo in number blue. it's got cool paint. e: goddamn that number blue livery owns e2: the shoei glamster also looks to fit the bill, and is significantly lighter to boot. but are either of these helmets available in the US, or will i have to do some grey market import poo poo? all the reviews are in "british" TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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Can someone rec me an electric bike for a combo of commuter + funbike? Mainly riding it as a commuter about 10 miles (each way) along a paved beach path (not a road, like a concrete path bisecting sand). While I don't intend on going raw through actual sand, it might happen and there will def be sand strewn along the path (so probably those fatter smallish tires?). Looking for an ebike because I might be tired/lazy/whatever and want some throttle. Would be nice to have some butt cargo capacity and the capability to carry an adult passenger, but I don't need a full-on cargo bike. Something like a RadRunner though doesn't have to be exactly that. PRADA SLUT fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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I've really been enjoying my Magnum Nomad. Through the baby carrier on the back rack and its been great to toot around town with the kid in tow and not struggle going up hills. I do worry about hills and breaking with a 30 pound toddler on the back, but I just take it slow and easy. Assuming this lasts me a long time though I may look into upgrading the brakes depending on how difficult that is.
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PRADA SLUT posted:Can someone rec me an electric bike for a combo of commuter + funbike? Mainly riding it as a commuter about 10 miles (each way) along a paved beach path (not a road, like a concrete path bisecting sand). While I don't intend on going raw through actual sand, it might happen and there will def be sand strewn along the path (so probably those fatter smallish tires?). Looking for an ebike because I might be tired/lazy/whatever and want some throttle. Would be nice to have some butt cargo capacity and the capability to carry an adult passenger, but I don't need a full-on cargo bike. Flyer M880 is fairly similar to RadRunner I think, but without the sort of sketchy safety record (in that it has no record at all instead): https://flyer.radioflyer.com/flyer-m880.html
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PRADA SLUT posted:Can someone rec me an electric bike for a combo of commuter + funbike? Mainly riding it as a commuter about 10 miles (each way) along a paved beach path (not a road, like a concrete path bisecting sand). While I don't intend on going raw through actual sand, it might happen and there will def be sand strewn along the path (so probably those fatter smallish tires?). Looking for an ebike because I might be tired/lazy/whatever and want some throttle. Would be nice to have some butt cargo capacity and the capability to carry an adult passenger, but I don't need a full-on cargo bike. I think most $1500-2009 20x4 fat tire bikes can fit your bill. Look for one with a strong rear rack.
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PRADA SLUT posted:Would be nice to have some butt cargo capacity and the capability to carry an adult passenger, but I don't need a full-on cargo bike. I would consider anything that can carry an adult passenger to be a cargo bike. In fact, an extra adult might exceed the weight limit on many cargo bikes so read the stats carefully! Max cargo weight usually includes the weight of the bike, and the front and rear racks will have their own max weight too.
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Veskit posted:I am totally lost in all of the options, but if I have about a 6000 dollar budget what bikes should I look at for regular city riding outside of the turbo Vado and the gazelle series? That could get you a very nice bike. Probably a class 3 with good torque and battery. Maybe look at Reise and Muller, Benno, Tern, and Stromer.
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tildes posted:Flyer M880 is fairly similar to RadRunner I think, but without the sort of sketchy safety record (in that it has no record at all instead): https://flyer.radioflyer.com/flyer-m880.html I should have read this more closely. I have a similar model, but not this one. The brakes suck, but I love everything else about it. Nocheez fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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PRADA SLUT posted:Can someone rec me an electric bike for a combo of commuter + funbike? Mainly riding it as a commuter about 10 miles (each way) along a paved beach path (not a road, like a concrete path bisecting sand). While I don't intend on going raw through actual sand, it might happen and there will def be sand strewn along the path (so probably those fatter smallish tires?). Looking for an ebike because I might be tired/lazy/whatever and want some throttle. Would be nice to have some butt cargo capacity and the capability to carry an adult passenger, but I don't need a full-on cargo bike. TenementFunster posted:e2: the shoei glamster also looks to fit the bill, and is significantly lighter to boot. evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jul 12, 2023 |
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Not that anyone should do this, but I've gotten Japanese model bike helmets from Amazon Japan shipped to the US. So grey market is likely possible.foutre posted:What Tern-equivalent bikes are there around the Haul price? Tern's compact cargo bikes are, in descending order of size and price: GSD - can seat 2 kids HSD Quick Haul The Quick Haul doesn't have a suspension fork and has a bolt-on rack (still generously sized) instead of built into the frame. HSD and QH can share rear cargo/passenger accessories. evil_bunnY posted:R&M is exactly what you ride when trying to convince yourself to spend Tern money lmao. And TBH I think I'd still take a GSD over a multitinker.
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evil_bunnY posted:Can you even get that in the US of A? shoei makes the EX-zero in a bunch of cool liveries too, if you can get that... 
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I actually ordered a folding bicycle helmet from UK and had it shipped to US. Apparently it didn't have the US bike helmet certification.
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stephenthinkpad posted:I actually ordered a folding bicycle helmet from UK and had it shipped to US.
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Exciting Rad news, the motor just sort of... stopped responding for a moment. Cycling the power on the bicycle after a brief stop fixed it and it seemed fine. Is this sort of thing normal or a worrying portent of BICYCLE DEATH?
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Nessus posted:Exciting Rad news, the motor just sort of... stopped responding for a moment. Cycling the power on the bicycle after a brief stop fixed it and it seemed fine. Is this sort of thing normal or a worrying portent of BICYCLE DEATH?
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Just basic ebikes all have pretty open standard jolet connectors, so just unplug the cable to the breaks to disable the motor inhibitor and see if that alters the behavior.
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