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COVID test jokes in 2023 "From the creators of The Simpsons"...... In 2023
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To shreds, you say
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Jul 9, 2023 05:50
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I haven't read the episode titles or descriptions but I definitely expect a transphobic episode
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Jul 9, 2023 07:21
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I mean, they’ve already done multiple transphobic episodes, so they’re definitely no strangers to it.
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Jul 9, 2023 07:28
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Over/under odds on a future title being "The Bender Gender"?
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Jul 9, 2023 07:31
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They already did that pun
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Jul 9, 2023 07:35
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The Awesomesaurus posted:I mean, they’ve already done multiple transphobic episodes, so they’re definitely no strangers to it. I always feel bad about the Bender sex change episode because it's transphobic premise aside it is a really funny episode and I won't skip it Still, I'm ready for them never to do another episode about gender again, or any episodes at all really
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Jul 9, 2023 09:22
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I think there was an episode in one of the newer seasons where some sci fi thing made them all swap genders. Or maybe I imagined that, idk, but the show definitely got more into barely disguised fetish territory later on.
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Jul 9, 2023 09:33
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'Barely disguised fetish' and 'standard wacky sci-fi plot devices' are an extremely fuzzy line at the best of times.
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Jul 9, 2023 09:42
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anyone want a soda made from the secretion of a queen?
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Jul 9, 2023 09:45
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Mantis42 posted:They already did that pun
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Jul 9, 2023 10:23
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Data Graham posted:Occam’s razor is that the current writers grew up after Reboot and have never heard of it It's definitely just a joke about the glut of reboots and origin stories, not a reference to the 90s cartoon ReBoot.
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Jul 9, 2023 17:09
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Reboot should be left alone anyway, without Tony Jay to play Megabyte there's absolutely no point.
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Jul 9, 2023 17:25
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Mantis42 posted:I think there was an episode in one of the newer seasons where some sci fi thing made them all swap genders. Or maybe I imagined that, idk, but the show definitely got more into barely disguised fetish territory later on. That was an actual episode, and it was the laziest, hackiest collection of gender cliches imaginable. "Women be shopping, amirite?"
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Jul 9, 2023 17:28
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Got further in rewatch middle of season 4, still good but dang they did not have a plan for Fry & Leela & seem to keep hitting the reset button on their relationship. Also hasn’t aged well (if it was ever ok) that Fry refuses to accept his coworker doesn’t want to date him & he won’t respect her right to say no. In real life that behavior isn’t wacky and would lead to Fry waiting by her space car with a blaster pistol.
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Jul 9, 2023 17:44
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Like, most TV has got the memo that "keep being persistent and you will get the girl" is no longer a standard cool and good stock plotline Futurama kinda gets grandfathered in under the wire but it really should not be doubling down at this point
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Jul 9, 2023 18:01
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Also Fry is literally the dumbest guy alive and Leela can do so much better Like The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings is still a superb episode but that was always a cursed subplot
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Jul 9, 2023 18:01
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Even as a teenager, I didn't like the Fry and Leela pairing. They just didn't fit at all, and as time went on they played it more and more straight, which was perplexing to me. Like, it's up there with Ross and Rachel in terms of unfathomable TV couplings.
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Jul 9, 2023 18:18
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He was a good fit with Amy, who also got a bad pairing with Kif
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Jul 9, 2023 18:30
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Yeah honestly Amy-Fry and Kif-Leela make way more sense as long-term pairings.
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Jul 9, 2023 18:36
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Listen, amy was just an available silly, fun, rich, attractive, energetic, sexual person that had a super compatible personality with fry. Why would he possibly want that when he could chase after his tube-mommy?
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Jul 10, 2023 00:58
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It’s like solid platonic relationships between two people can’t exist in TV World, so every show has to “will they or won’t they?” until the heat death of the universe. It’s so tiring, and Futurama was no different.
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Jul 10, 2023 02:28
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They get together in the later seasons and it mostly seems to involve Leela acting out of character to make it work.
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Jul 10, 2023 02:53
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Fry bothering Leela isn’t terribly different than Zapp harassing Leela, except Zapp tends to leave her alone when she’s not in his direct line of sight.
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Jul 10, 2023 03:45
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My headcanon is that Leela, having been made fun of basically from birth about her physical appearance, has such poor self-esteem that she sees Fry as a catch simply because he's neither mean to her (like Alcazar) nor repulsive (like Zapp Brannigan). Never mind that he's stupid, childish, unambitious, and doesn't take good care of himself!Mantis42 posted:He was a good fit with Amy, who also got a bad pairing with Kif Even Amy was arguably too good for Fry despite the fact that she made more sense with him than Leela does, mostly because Fry isn't good enough for anyone. Another classic case of critical heterosexual male sitcom protagonist syndrome.
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Jul 10, 2023 04:31
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amy and fry wouldn’t have worked long-term. eventually it would have gotten weird for her that he sounds so much like her dad
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Jul 10, 2023 05:19
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Way I've heard it put is that Leela clearly has complexes from her childhood, but the other way. She has very high standards for men- about every time she's seen dating it's with a man who at least appears to be of high status- the mayor's assistant, the shapeshifter who at least seems rich, even technically Zapp. And if she's only accepting approaches from men like that, any rejection is on her part. While it's a bit retroactive, her relationship with Fry makes some sense if she does like him and enjoy his company, but she's frustrated at how unambitious and immature he is. When he does impress her it's usually when he manages to go above and beyond to accomplish great things on his own accord, using the brains and motivation he has but neglects to use. And of course, her relationship with Lars is literally that with a more mature, more accomplished Fry. Otherwise, she's well aware that a relationship with Fry means settling for someone who she'd likely end up supporting and can't necessarily rely on- but if he was just a bit better...
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Jul 10, 2023 07:31
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I figured out why the Mary Poppins parody always felt off to me, like a season 10 episode transplanted to season 8. Al Jean wrote it.
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Jul 10, 2023 10:14
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Writing a spec script about Krusty hiring a writer named Mal Jean who ruins Itchy and Scratchy
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Jul 10, 2023 10:26
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Mantis42 posted:Writing a spec script about Krusty hiring a writer named Mal Jean who ruins Itchy and Scratchy everything's coming up poochie!
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Jul 10, 2023 15:31
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Way I've heard it put is that Leela clearly has complexes from her childhood, but the other way. She has very high standards for men- about every time she's seen dating it's with a man who at least appears to be of high status- the mayor's assistant, the shapeshifter who at least seems rich, even technically Zapp. And if she's only accepting approaches from men like that, any rejection is on her part. They also have two episodes that do a really good job of presenting a Fry that could be a good partner for Leela: the one where he gets worms that make him a 10x better version of himself and the Devils Hands are Idle Playthings, where he's actually able to express his emotions cogently through his music. Also the parabox one where they meet a happy, married version of themselves. I dunno it seems like it would be easy for her to fall into probably a bad trap of going "Well, in there somewhere is the right man".
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Jul 10, 2023 15:45
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Fry is a better partner that modern day Homer
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Jul 10, 2023 18:23
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clearly a better partner than Cyclops bundy
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Jul 10, 2023 18:24
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PostNouveau posted:They also have two episodes that do a really good job of presenting a Fry that could be a good partner for Leela: the one where he gets worms that make him a 10x better version of himself and the Devils Hands are Idle Playthings, where he's actually able to express his emotions cogently through his music. Also the parabox one where they meet a happy, married version of themselves. I dunno it seems like it would be easy for her to fall into probably a bad trap of going "Well, in there somewhere is the right man". I was thinking the worms episode, while it seems arbitrary that everyone is against it I kinda get it; it's fairly clear that the Fry then is far more the worms than he is the Fry they know, for good and bad, and it certainly wasn't with informed consent that he chose to host them. While the devil's hands is actually something he DID choose of his own free will, for better or worse. I'm probably thinking more than the writers did, but still. I do just feel it's more interesting, and hell, maybe realistic, if Leela is specifically conflicted on it. That there's understandable pros and cons from her perspective that she's grappling with. The whole future time travel episode does have her message indicate that, not just as a potential-maybe romantic partner but as a friend, Fry made her happy and she feels her life is lesser without him. But the exact nature of their relationship is in flux.
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Jul 10, 2023 19:34
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Fry's best qualities are all emotional. He's supportive, selfless, loving, and loyal. He's not really a good partner since he's usually too dumb to function, but I can understand what it is Leela sees in him. Pretty much as stated above. Leela's got an emotional gap that Fry fills with sincere reverence.
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Jul 10, 2023 20:53
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When Futurama started, Fry was more of the main viewpoint character, and as such he was a relatable everyman, and from that perspective, the audience would be more aware of his inner life and his flaws compared to the other characters. And when the show stumbled from that into something like an ensemble comedy, they leaned way more into the idea that Fry is just really dumb (which conversely meant that the other characters were some kind of smart). Although it's also a classic male gaze situation with relationship between Fry and Leela where the man is supposed to be relatably flawed and dumpy, while the woman is supposed to be attractive and perfect except for the natural inscrutability from being a separate human being with her own inner life.
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Jul 11, 2023 00:30
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I'm not sure Leela was ever portrayed as perfect, and as for being attractive, well... she was a cyclops... Also in that episode where Leela had two eyes, Fry was the only one who said she didn't need the surgery and was just fine with one eye, cos he's a good dude.
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Jul 11, 2023 18:57
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There are a ton of episodes where Fry shows emotional growth and maturity. The problem is it’s a sitcom and has the need to continually hit reset. Fry can’t be Fry if he isn’t a lovable idiot and all.
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Jul 11, 2023 20:20
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Did anyone say Armin Tamzarian yet?
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Jul 11, 2023 20:32
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No, because he doesn't exist?
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