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Yeah sorry I meant the BG1EE 2.0 skin before I installed Siege of Dragonspear, though looking through the Beamdog forums I did find Lefreut's Enhanced UI which I already prefer the look of after using it for 40 minutes. I guess I'll wait until I get to BG2 myself and see if my opinion of the new companions changes.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 21:11 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 18:13 |
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The Beamdog companions, other than Hexxat, are mostly worthy of criticism in the sense that they are not as good as the best from the original games, not because they are actually bad. Hexxat is actually bad though
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 21:20 |
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still baffled by their decision to have a monk in bg1
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 21:27 |
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Most of the content is fine, I just think the characters are annoying. They even had to make interacting with Rasaad annoying, even though he's pretty inoffensive, by making all of Charname's dialogue options painful. except Hexxat, who somehow never left an impression on me even after I romanced her one playthrough; I'm still not entirely sure what happened there but I'm gonna say she's bland
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 22:22 |
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I remember doing the quest for Hexxat's joining, thinking "neat" and then parking her and never using her again.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 22:31 |
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Jay Rust posted:still baffled by their decision to have a monk in bg1 Someone needs to mod his boots to give him decent AC (somewhere around 5 would work) and his gloves to give him an extra attack or something and he'd be weak but not useless. Easy enough to explain him losing the items between BG1 and BG2, given his story.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 23:53 |
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Rappaport posted:I won't pretend to speak for all grognards, but I think a lot of the dislike for the Beamdog new people comes from BG2 rather than 1. Rasaad's quest in 2 is an awful slog, but at least you can get a bear out of it?, Neera's quest is pretty silly if short but she conflicts with Edwin who is a very over-powered wizard. Neera's class might make her comparable in the long run, I've never taken her very far to test this out. Neera is better than Edwin in the long run. By Tob she'll have improved chaos shield and a high Wild Mage level meaning she can chain gun out any spell in her spell book via Nahals. Even Edwin can't compete with that. Edwin is certainly more reliable though and as I play primarily Ironman runs these days I am often skeptical of taking Neera. If you can get Neera to TOB though she's well worth the wait. Just busted powerful by then. By mid SOA I'd say she starts being quite good (basically, once she gets Imp Chaos Shield). Prior to that she's a gamble with not much payoff.
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# ? Jul 4, 2023 23:55 |
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All I going to feel the lack of a cleric? I figure I'll go through with the basic party of me fighter/mage, imoen thief/mage, dynaheir, minsc, jaheira, khalid Edit: I could drop dynaheir maybe for a cleric since imoen and me will have wizard stuff covered?
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 00:34 |
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queeb posted:All I going to feel the lack of a cleric? I figure I'll go through with the basic party of me fighter/mage, imoen thief/mage, dynaheir, minsc, jaheira, khalid Jaheira will make it sting less, as compared to having nobody with a cure wounds or restoration spell
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 00:36 |
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I'd be missing the Death Wards more personally, even Chant and Protection from Evil are good all the way to the end.
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 00:43 |
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The Shame Boy posted:I'd be missing the Death Wards more personally, even Chant and Protection from Evil are good all the way to the end. Yeah, that's why I said sting less as opposed to it'll be fine. There are going to be points where it will suck
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 00:45 |
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The Shame Boy posted:I'd be missing the Death Wards more personally, even Chant and Protection from Evil are good all the way to the end. This is BG1 though. Energy drain isn’t nearly as much of a thing. Your big concerns are healing, delay poison, and buffs. Jaheira can handle those. I think they’d be fine.
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 00:50 |
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Ginette Reno posted:Neera is better than Edwin in the long run. By Tob she'll have improved chaos shield and a high Wild Mage level meaning she can chain gun out any spell in her spell book via Nahals. Even Edwin can't compete with that. By TOB isn't anyone super busted, though? Maybe not the bear, I guess. Edwin is ridiculous around the mid-game of BG2 because his amulet gives him, in addition to being a specialist wizard, extra spell slots in the higher levels, and having 2 Death spells on hand at all times is freaking fun. I understand that eventually a wild mage can do similar nonsense, but by that point Edwin is tossing around Abi Dalzim's wiltings either way, so he's got crowd control managed. In my most recent game of BG2, post-Underdark, I just mostly had my pixel mens and womens beat things to death and it works pretty nicely, Firkraag and I can't spell the shadow dragon's name but you know who that is just kind of crumbled after Korgan hit them a few times with his axe. Super-powered mages are fun, sure, that is why I like Edwin, but they're not exactly necessary, until you get to the stupid chess portions in TOB and well by that point the game is over anyway. Last time I tried, it is perfectly viable to just cheese Tree-of-Life-Jonbon with some Mordenkainen's swords and then mobbing him afterwards. I guess being able to cast a couple of Mordenkainen's swords is a word in favour of Neera or Edwin, but either way, even the big bad isn't so bad.
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 01:09 |
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Rappaport posted:By TOB isn't anyone super busted, though? Maybe not the bear, I guess. Edwin is ridiculous around the mid-game of BG2 because his amulet gives him, in addition to being a specialist wizard, extra spell slots in the higher levels, and having 2 Death spells on hand at all times is freaking fun. I understand that eventually a wild mage can do similar nonsense, but by that point Edwin is tossing around Abi Dalzim's wiltings either way, so he's got crowd control managed. Edwin is still quite good in TOB and is certainly preferable to Neera before that. I'm just saying that she does eventually eclipse him. Tob Wild Mages are ludicrously powerful.
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 01:17 |
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ok im thinking of shuffling and going me F/T, imoen thief/mage eventually, branwen, coran to cover imoen thief when shes dual classing to mage and then just to be a machinegun, minsc, dynaheir i think that covers the good stuff, branwen seems like she can be a frontliner
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 02:22 |
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Make sure to get Branwen an ankheg scale mail, in BG1 armour class still sort of means something Ginette Reno posted:Edwin is still quite good in TOB and is certainly preferable to Neera before that. I'm just saying that she does eventually eclipse him. Tob Wild Mages are ludicrously powerful. That's fair and true, I've just not experimented with it myself!
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 02:33 |
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I want to do a gimmick run where the main character is a pre-nerf ranger/cleric (so that he has access to all of the priestly spells*) with all 8s for Str/Con/Dex but appropriately godly wisdom of 25, or perhaps 22 but find the three wis totems in BG1. Someone who is basically the best casting priest in the history of ever but physically inept, so just stands back and casts while his companions do the physical work. I could do a similar thing with a mage/cleric with godly Int and Wis, of course. I wish that there were a way to have all the druid, cleric, and mage spells on one character legally. I know that there aren't that many druid-specific spells, but of that small group there are a lot of very good and unique ones. Honestly, I would rather not have to keep levelling ranger because it just slows down cleric advancement at some point, but there's no way to dual class that and make a sort of Anomen, but ranger. *Except any shaman-only ones, if applicable. I haven't played Dragonspear.
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 03:18 |
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Okay I looked this up, it turns out rangers, out of the gate, require higher St, Con and Dex scores, but of course you can just fix that after the fact with editors. I honestly thought they just needed a good Con, but nope.
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 03:41 |
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JustJeff88 posted:Someone who is basically the best casting priest in the history of ever but physically inept, so just stands back and casts while his companions do the physical work ah, so Every Caster Ever
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 08:30 |
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Hexxat they kind of forgot to give her any kind of personality so she is just kind of bland. Her romance also seems incredibly short with not much dialogue at all. I really tried to enjoy it, but she is just so boring. The PCs dialogue options to say to her are also terrible.
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 08:35 |
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I think in BG 1 I’ve never seen played without my party being Minsc, Dynahier, Jaheira, Imoen, and Kivan when Khalid gets killed
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# ? Jul 5, 2023 08:57 |
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i think i broke the baron ployer quest by talking to one of the mages before he could cast the curse. the mages all teleported away and left him to get murdered lol. gonna reload and do it properly in case this breaks anything
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 02:23 |
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i remember yoshimo asking me to do something before i took a hiatus but i forgot what it was. i think it had to do with the shadow thieves? do i have to do all of mae'vars quests first?
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 03:01 |
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cuntman.net posted:i remember yoshimo asking me to do something before i took a hiatus but i forgot what it was. i think it had to do with the shadow thieves? do i have to do all of mae'vars quests first? He wanted you to talk to Renal Bloodscalp, who tells you to go work for Mae'var and prove he's a traitor. Just starting that quest is enough for Yoshimo, so you're in the clear. Edit: Most quests where a companion will leave if you don't do them only need to be started and then it doesn't matter how long it takes you to complete. You only have to go to Nalia's castle and talk to the head guard or whoever, you don't need to even go to the castle, etc. Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jul 6, 2023 |
# ? Jul 6, 2023 03:05 |
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oki found the powergamer scripts and this is so good, guys auto using potions ands tuff like that eases my brainpower
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 03:33 |
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queeb posted:oki found the powergamer scripts and this is so good, guys auto using potions ands tuff like that eases my brainpower Yeah I started using those and I do like them a lot. I hate buffing.
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 03:38 |
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i left khalid in a house and ran away, now i have branwyn. ill drop jaheira when i get archer dude
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 03:40 |
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Air Skwirl posted:He wanted you to talk to Renal Bloodscalp, who tells you to go work for Mae'var and prove he's a traitor. Just starting that quest is enough for Yoshimo, so you're in the clear. You don't even have to start the quest, Yoshimo won't leave you over it. Eventually he'll say he's gonna stop bugging you but Renal might still appreciate the visit if you change your mind. Same if you get the Umar Hill quest while Minsc is in the party. Those two are both someone else's actual companion quest; probably also goes for Jaheira and the Trademeet druids, but I haven't tried putting that one off.
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 04:35 |
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okay thats good, i feel a lot more comfortable about wandering around aimlessly now
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 05:00 |
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goddamn, command and hold person on branwyn and she just shuts down fights
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 06:02 |
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queeb posted:goddamn, command and hold person on branwyn and she just shuts down fights Clerics OP.
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 06:20 |
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drat find familiar on my f/m MC is awesome, gently caress yeah bonus hp for a little buddy in my backpack
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# ? Jul 6, 2023 14:42 |
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i think the rasaad quest broke because he was asleep or something when the big fight ended
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 02:34 |
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queeb posted:drat find familiar on my f/m MC is awesome, gently caress yeah bonus hp for a little buddy in my backpack lets make a deal i give u: permanent boost to hp u give me: exactly one inventory slot do u accept????
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 02:37 |
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Oh no! Those quest rewards overflowed my backpack and the game dumped my familiar on the ground! Oh gosh I hope he doesn't get left behind and free up that inventory spot...
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 20:41 |
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Bit of a dumb question but it's always confused me: Bracers of Archery: The Dale's Protector gives THAC0: +2 with missile weapons. Does that include bows/slings/crossbows or does it only apply to thrown weapons like daggers and darts? I always slap them on an archer-type in BG1 but I have a gnawing doubt that I've been doing it wrong all these years!
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 22:03 |
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bike tory posted:Oh no! Those quest rewards overflowed my backpack and the game dumped my familiar on the ground! Oh gosh I hope he doesn't get left behind and free up that inventory spot... Real mad the EE patched this.
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 22:12 |
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What are you even doing to need that much inventory space? Put that bow down. Put it down! It's not even magical!
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# ? Jul 11, 2023 23:17 |
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DeadButDelicious posted:Bit of a dumb question but it's always confused me: Bracers of Archery: The Dale's Protector gives THAC0: +2 with missile weapons. Does that include bows/slings/crossbows or does it only apply to thrown weapons like daggers and darts? I always slap them on an archer-type in BG1 but I have a gnawing doubt that I've been doing it wrong all these years! I have a modded install (mostly SCS/Rogue Rebalancing and maybe a tweak or two) so I can't say for 100% certainty that vanilla works the same way but in my game the bonus does work for bows etc.
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# ? Jul 12, 2023 01:04 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 18:13 |
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DeadButDelicious posted:Bit of a dumb question but it's always confused me: Bracers of Archery: The Dale's Protector gives THAC0: +2 with missile weapons. Does that include bows/slings/crossbows or does it only apply to thrown weapons like daggers and darts? I always slap them on an archer-type in BG1 but I have a gnawing doubt that I've been doing it wrong all these years! Don't worry, you've been doing it right. They work with all missile weapons, so if its ranged, you get the +2 bonus.
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# ? Jul 12, 2023 01:06 |