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How the hell are indies making enough money to have 4+ traveling tv performers? My friend runs an indie promotion and even with 200+ ticket sales he says he barely makes any profit. Granted the performers all get at least $75 per show guaranteed, which is good considering some lower on the card don’t get paid unless a certain amount of tickets are sold to the show in many organizations. It’s just crazy how slim the margins are in indie wrestling promotions.
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ZHamburglar posted:How the hell are indies making enough money to have 4+ traveling tv performers? My friend runs an indie promotion and even with 200+ ticket sales he says he barely makes any profit. Granted the performers all get at least $75 per show guaranteed, which is good considering some lower on the card don’t get paid unless a certain amount of tickets are sold to the show in many organizations. It’s just crazy how slim the margins are in indie wrestling promotions. Around here it's former Chikara guys doing favors for guys they trained with. I think the big push now is to get podcasts and smaller wrestling related companies (or fans with money to blow) to sponsor a wrestler to either offset some or all of the cost. It's the only thing that makes sense to me when I go to a show with some decent names on the card but they may top out at 100 people in attendance. Or you only pay the TV talent on the hope the lower end guys work for free but can make it up in Merch because the show will be better attended.
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Another consideration is how little a lot of professional wrestlers make despite being on TV and how much you can make off pictures/merch. There are some really over independent wrestlers that make a lot more than people you see on AEW a couple times a month.
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Oil! posted:Some of the roster has been murdered at recent shows (RIP Drugz Bunny and Lil Crush) and Joey Janela holds the Champion Ship, so it should be a good time despite having to hear a bro the entire show.
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ZHamburglar posted:How the hell are indies making enough money to have 4+ traveling tv performers? My friend runs an indie promotion and even with 200+ ticket sales he says he barely makes any profit. Granted the performers all get at least $75 per show guaranteed, which is good considering some lower on the card don’t get paid unless a certain amount of tickets are sold to the show in many organizations. It’s just crazy how slim the margins are in indie wrestling promotions.
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ZHamburglar posted:How the hell are indies making enough money to have 4+ traveling tv performers? My friend runs an indie promotion and even with 200+ ticket sales he says he barely makes any profit. Granted the performers all get at least $75 per show guaranteed, which is good considering some lower on the card don’t get paid unless a certain amount of tickets are sold to the show in many organizations. It’s just crazy how slim the margins are in indie wrestling promotions. sell weed
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coconono posted:sell weed that’s how Prestige does it, at least lol https://twitter.com/willquintananw/status/1674819409683312641?s=46&t=38FhLKOcc0gOkeBawJw5vg
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Stone Punkbull 141 posted:No drug achieves a dopamine high like watching your bank account number go up. I like ecstasy for that
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GCW has booked....Jeff Hardy to appear at their show in Detroit (clarified to be non-wrestling)? And he is holding a concert afterwards with separate admission? Ugh
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The Taxman posted:GCW has booked....Jeff Hardy to appear at their show in Detroit (clarified to be non-wrestling)? And he is holding a concert afterwards with separate admission? Yes. Jeff Hardy is a carny and found a way to juice ticket sales to a concert by just appearing at a wrestling show beforehand.
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Oil! posted:Yes. Jeff Hardy is a carny and found a way to juice ticket sales to a concert by just appearing at a wrestling show beforehand. The real problem is this likely means less chance to give Komander a high five while I'm wearing the shirt he sold me
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Oil! posted:Another consideration is how little a lot of professional wrestlers make despite being on TV and how much you can make off pictures/merch. There are some really over independent wrestlers that make a lot more than people you see on AEW a couple times a month.
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I wonder how much cash folks make on signed 8x10s; I would assume a decent amount? they’re not hard to travel with, so I guess that’s the easiest money possible. Ethan HD used to sell random comics and Funko pops at his table which always cracked me up (makes sense once you realize he owns a comic book store). It’s always cool to see a wrestler hype up their other hustles; Viva Van owns a makeup company and will bring her stuff along.
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Cara Noir injury update. His foot's really hosed. Going to be out 12 months, and that's if everything goes to plan.quote:Today I met with specialist orthopaedic foot surgeon Mr Nima Hiedari. He was very direct with me which was extremely helpful, but I’m also slightly struggling to process his diagnosis. https://www.gofundme.com/f/xur7eq-medical-support
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That sucks. Cara Noir is an incredible wrestler, this must be devastating for him. Noted donations from Progress Wrestling, Will Ospreay, and Cody.
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the escape goat posted:I wonder how much cash folks make on signed 8x10s; I would assume a decent amount? I think 8x10s are a bit weird because for the fan if you buy them before the show or at intermission they are a pain in the rear end to try to keep in decent shape. Some shows will sort of kick everyone out the second it's over cause it's a timed rental too, or wrestlers who fight before intermission will leave immediately after. I've known a few wrestlers who were excited because the 8x10 I bought was the last they had and they didn't have to lug it around anymore. Although I say this, and meanwhile I have signed 8x10s of Masha, Pancakes & Abby Jane, Thick & Juicy 1 (Willow & Faye) and an 8x10 drawing of a baby hedgehog Willow Nightingale signed by her. But yea I usually prefer stickers and pins cause they are easier to get out of the show in decent shape. My GF loves to get shirts and weird merchandise anyone sells (last show we were at she got a Riley Sheppard sword & Jeff Cannonball drink cozy).
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Went to "AIW Absolution XVI" tonight, had a complete blast. Front row, took my wife and kids, and saw the bloodiest match I've ever seen. Got hit with blood, which wasn't great. I think the guy (Joshua Bishop) bladed a little too hard. It made the Hangman match from a year or two back look fairly tame. It was against Filthy Tom Lawlor, who was so covered in this other guy's blood that he looked like a flesh golem in the end. Wonderful and stupid. And I got to see Matt Cardona lose an indie championship in the main event. Not that I think anyone cares about AIW spoilers but just in case. What a great time, holy crap. Oh, and I got a fist bump from Eric Bischoff as he looped around the ring. That was neat, I guess 
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Anyone going to this DEFY show in Eatonville next week? Looks like a more minor event that’s not getting a ton of promotion, but it’s got a solid card and it’s for a good cause, and it’s basically the same distance for me as Washington Hall, so I’m planning on checking it out.
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Chinook posted:Went to "AIW Absolution XVI" tonight, had a complete blast. Front row, took my wife and kids, and saw the bloodiest match I've ever seen. Got hit with blood, which wasn't great. I think the guy (Joshua Bishop) bladed a little too hard. It made the Hangman match from a year or two back look fairly tame. It was against Filthy Tom Lawlor, who was so covered in this other guy's blood that he looked like a flesh golem in the end. Wonderful and stupid. Joshua Bishop has done some crazy stuff. A few years back, he and Matt Justice recreated the Zandig/Mondo balcony dive. AIW has some good up and coming talent. I always enjoy their shows.
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https://twitter.com/EnjoyWrestle/status/1679891699215093760 For those who have WREMIX can watch me hoot and holler with my friends at 8 PM Chinook posted:Went to "AIW Absolution XVI" tonight, had a complete blast. Front row, took my wife and kids, and saw the bloodiest match I've ever seen. Got hit with blood, which wasn't great. I think the guy (Joshua Bishop) bladed a little too hard. It made the Hangman match from a year or two back look fairly tame. It was against Filthy Tom Lawlor, who was so covered in this other guy's blood that he looked like a flesh golem in the end. Wonderful and stupid. https://twitter.com/MichaelPorter98/status/1680621313570877444 Also drat Big Ziggy getting some nasty color in her match as well (and then having to manage in a follow up match wearing a big head bandage/gauze)
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achillesforever6 posted:https://twitter.com/EnjoyWrestle/status/1679891699215093760 Yes indeed. Were you there?
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Going to see Ishii live  https://twitter.com/RevProUK/status/1681658268932767744
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Kennel posted:Going to see Ishii live That's a hell of a card and it strongly suggests a hefty NJPW presence at All In. Jacobs vs. Ishii should be brutal!
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Chinston Wurchill posted:That's a hell of a card and it strongly suggests a hefty NJPW presence at All In. Jacobs vs. Ishii should be brutal! For those who haven’t seen Jacobs: imagine if Ishii had a bit more flab on him and REALLY liked Bryan Danielson. He’s one of the lesser spoken about British talents but in my opinion he’s second only to Oku at the moment. Speaking of the Copperbox show, big talent announcement: https://twitter.com/revprouk/status/1682086591039258624?s=46&t=_akPFYiqAqKbxYd3RPf4Jg Smart money for her opponent is either Alex Windsor or Hyan. Both of whom would be amazing
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Seattle/PNW wrasslegoons: for Defy shows at Washington Hall, does anyone know if the printed time on the ticket is for 'doors open' time or 'show starts' time? I have tickets to the 7/29 show (marked 8-11pm) but I unfortunately double booked myself to see another earlier show that night, and I'm trying to see if it's possible to catch both.
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Doors open at 7:30 usually and show starts around 8 at DEFY. Usually.
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get there early; line is always long af and they rarely get everyone in before the first bell also yay, glad you’re checking DEFY out! it’s a rad vibe. They have an intermission every show and sometimes go past 11; swing by anytime and you’ll be just fine
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https://twitter.com/AchillesF6/status/1683141836624240646 Did not venture much to watch the show inside since the venue was like a billion degrees inside, workrate wise probably the best show to happen at 880, but that's mostly because it is a trainee school. Was funny since I was tabling for Pittsburgh DSA I got there super early so the wrestlers were just calling their matches in the ring and Edith was unmasked so I was trying to avoid going in and chatting up with folks. While waiting for my table she goes out to the open street fair happening nearby and goes "Oh heyyyy" lol. Just wish this show happened Friday night so I wouldn't have missed the stuff happening at Tekko
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plester1 posted:Seattle/PNW wrasslegoons: for Defy shows at Washington Hall, does anyone know if the printed time on the ticket is for 'doors open' time or 'show starts' time? I have tickets to the 7/29 show (marked 8-11pm) but I unfortunately double booked myself to see another earlier show that night, and I'm trying to see if it's possible to catch both. I usually get to Washington Hall around 7:00, but the line varies depending on how big the show is. The line for Year Six wrapped around the side of the building and down the block, but the last one I went to barely had anyone in line until well after 7:30. It also depends on the VIP line, which gets in first. GA tickets often don't go in until close to 8, and then they give people time to grab beers and food. Speaking of which, I highly recommend you eat there. The food counter at Washington Hall doesn't look like much, but they partner with some local restaurants and the stuff they serve is surprisingly very good.
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Appreciate the tips, it’s definitely not my first Defy show though. escape goat, you may remember me wearing the Defy hat at BOLA this year in the row behind you. Just wanted to ask because the 8XGP tickets were printed “Entry @ 8pm” and wasn’t sure if it was a timing change or what. I’m in a weird bind because my partner inadvertently bought us overlapping tickets to the early show of Jimbo the Drag Clown and that’s also on Cap Hill from 7-9pm, but I don’t want to miss either show 
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plester1 posted:Appreciate the tips, it’s definitely not my first Defy show though. escape goat, you may remember me wearing the Defy hat at BOLA this year in the row behind you. drat, that Is a legit hard call. drag and wrestling are two of the great gender performances.
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Nea posted:drag and wrestling are two of the great gender performances. 
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