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Eh. Nobody plays Knight of the Dead, and that’s a much less punishing drawback. There just aren’t that many constructed decks that just want a pile of stats with no minion type, synergies, or immediate impact.
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I don't know, I feel like you could end up with a pure aggro deck that happens to be able to save its card draw for after you get enough value out of Careless Mechanist. Maybe after Crooked Cook rotates, because I can't see an aggro deck not running that and that just makes Mechanist instantly kill itself.
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Julio Cruz posted:how did it take me until today to notice that Cookie’s hero power works on any minion not just friendly ones I just learned after years that the player with more minions always attacks first
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im going to lose games to a kthir transformed into my wincon and its going to be infuriating why blizz why
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Excelzior posted:im going to lose games to a kthir transformed into my wincon and its going to be infuriating
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goferchan posted:I just learned after years that the player with more minions always attacks first Wtf
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Jul 12, 2023 17:03
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Also those are all fun looking rares how strange
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You can forge without playing right? So it’s basically that Viking mtg mechanic from a few years ago? Seems not terrible but like absurdly passive.
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kater posted:You can forge without playing right? So it’s basically that Viking mtg mechanic from a few years ago? Seems not terrible but like absurdly passive. Yeah, it's basically a two mana kicker you can pay on earlier turns.
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Do we know if forging reveals what you're forging?
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Jul 12, 2023 17:37
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Unless you’re playing an absurdly agressive deck there are plenty of occasions where you have mana left over; sometimes even after a hero power. Some classes your hero power is super good and you can pretty much always just throw it in and have it be impactful but then you have like Control priest for eg where your hero power can often do literally nothing, so I can see forge being a cool mechanic in a priest deck.
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Jul 12, 2023 17:41
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Scholtz posted:Do we know if forging reveals what your forging? It does not. Your opponent sees that you forged something, but not the specific card.
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Jul 12, 2023 17:53
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kater posted:Wtf Yeah it's on a loading screen tip that's either new or somehow I have never noticed it
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Jul 12, 2023 18:10
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oh good, what the world needed was a cheaper Zola you can have two of
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Julio Cruz posted:oh good, what the world needed was a cheaper Zola you can have two of I'm assuming "temporary copy" means you have to play it that turn right?
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goferchan posted:I'm assuming "temporary copy" means you have to play it that turn right? As far as I understand it, yes. Which in most metas would limit it to things that are either cheap enough to play two of them in a turn while spending two mana on the Projectionist (and thus probably aren't very good) or things that managed to survive a turn (and thus probably aren't a must-kill). But we have Astalor, and you can get two of him with six mana and two neutral cards. So... look forward to another Astalor nerf, I guess.
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its too bad AV rotated To The Front - > Titan - > cover artist (Titan) -> projectionist -> Titan
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In a surprise to no one, Sargeras made it to round 2 in "Choose your Titan". Voting for week 2 has started.
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https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/vote/choose-your-titan/
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Meme thief priest card, arena fodder x3, and a degenerate combo enabler
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The way y’all talking I thought there were new quests this is the same stuffs
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kater posted:The way y’all talking I thought there were new quests this is the same stuffs battlegrounds? there are new quests and rewards https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23973118
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I've been playing Wild because I'm bored to death with Standard right now. You really should just play braindead aggro in Wild; most of your opponents will be playing the greediest dogshit decks imaginable until Diamond at least.
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Boatswain posted:I've been playing Wild because I'm bored to death with Standard right now. You really should just play braindead aggro in Wild; most of your opponents will be playing the greediest dogshit decks imaginable until Diamond at least. Did that with Twist. Brain dead aggro DH is as fun as I remember it!
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OK so you play like an rear end in a top hat until you win, lose, or get to start dropping Yoggs. It is hilarious, fun, and wins more than it should: ### Anti Hearthstone? # Class: Hunter # Format: Wild # # 2x (1) Flare # 2x (1) Tracking # 2x (1) Trinket Tracker # 2x (2) Dun Baldar Bunker # 2x (2) Emergency Maneuvers # 2x (2) Explosive Trap # 2x (2) Far Watch Post # 2x (2) Freezing Trap # 2x (2) Hidden Meaning # 2x (2) Ice Trap # 1x (2) Mad Scientist # 2x (2) Pressure Plate # 2x (3) Eaglehorn Bow # 2x (3) Forensic Duster # 1x (3) Prince Renathal # 2x (3) Rustrot Viper # 1x (4) Blademaster Okani # 2x (4) Speaker Stomper # 2x (4) Spring the Trap # 1x (5) Loatheb # 1x (6) Beaststalker Tavish # 1x (7) Prison of Yogg-Saron # 1x (10) Yogg-Saron, Hope's End # 1x (10) Yogg-Saron, Master of Fate # AAEBAa/XAwj3DfoO6awCndgD25EEx7IEl+8E/vgFEIAH/gyfpQP36AOpjQSrjQSpnwTjnwTknwSZrQSUtQSo7wSqpAWt6QXq8gXNngYAAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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 I like this card. You can pay the cost of the card over the course of a game and then drop it for 0 mana
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     Guess that’s Unholy DK’s gimmick this expansion. Not sure if it’ll be any good but I like it. I wonder what exactly “Unending” means though, do they just shuffle back into the deck?
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RatHat posted:Guess that’s Unholy DK’s gimmick this expansion. Not sure if it’ll be any good but I like it. I wonder what exactly “Unending” means though, do they just shuffle back into the deck? That's what Trump said in the reveal. After the Plague is revealed/takes effect, another is shuffled into the deck. Appears to be limited such that the shuffle back only occurs after you stop drawing plagues.
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RatHat posted:
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RatHat posted:
The opportunity cost is too high imho. You do not benefit from a dead card in your hand that at some point you will drop as a 0 mana 8/8. It's better to have cards that help you earlier, and besides, it's best if you don't float 2 mana every turn. Although this might be a convenient way to activate finale effects. Can you forge it even if it costs 0 mana already? And can you forge it multiple times per turn? RatHat posted:
There's also a card that makes you and your opponent draw 2 cards, but your opponent can't use their cards on the next turn. Normally, this would be bad, but making your opponent draw more cards has obvious value in this deck.
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The Plague theme looks cool, but the fact that gets completely hosed by Steamcleaner, a card that’s already pretty common in E.T.C. bands and is easy to discover if Mech decks have a resurgence, is kind of lame.
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I do like how plagues interact with the rune mechanic. Specifically, how it's a slow strategy that makes you choose between being Undead/Frost to use the whole package (and thus being more aggressive, since your card pool encourages you to just hard pivot to burn after a point), or being Undead/Blood and having fewer Plague cards but with much better control tools to drag things out into more of a bomb warrior playstyle. (I guess there could be a Blood control deck that dips into Undead for other reasons and picks up Helva as an inevitable win condition, but I really don't see that happening yet.)
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Torrannor posted:There's also a card that makes you and your opponent draw 2 cards, but your opponent can't use their cards on the next turn. Normally, this would be bad, but making your opponent draw more cards has obvious value in this deck. I didn't even see the card it's attached to but that effect in a vacuum doesn't sound too terrible to me. Feels like the reason mutual card draw effects are usually bad is that your opponent has the benefit of getting the first crack at using them with their full mana
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goferchan posted:I didn't even see the card it's attached to but that effect in a vacuum doesn't sound too terrible to me. Feels like the reason mutual card draw effects are usually bad is that your opponent has the benefit of getting the first crack at using them with their full mana  In a vacuum I agree with you, but Frost has enough non-symmetrical card draw that it just feels like overkill. Might be worth dipping into Frost for if Chillfallen Baron ever rotates, though.
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I hope the dk cards are not good because the design is actively terrible (pre-assembled package that you just throw everything that says ‘plague’ in your deck , can do a ton of damage with little counterplay and without needing to set up combos). Also the decks you actually want to punish with this (fatigue) have the easiest time dealing with it (maybe! Dk discover is really dumb!). This is curse lock all over again.
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