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Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Pope Corky the IX posted:

So you’re saying she’s making a mountain out of a mohel.

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sullat
Jan 9, 2012

quantumwell posted:

Ugh, reminds me of a young woman I knew in Mid-New York State, she had been "discovered" by an acting school in NYC and had spent the past 10 years taking acting classes and was still waiting for her big break let alone an acting part. She was an adult but still lived with her parents while not even holding down a job. Another woman had been approached by a Photographer, again from NYC who convinced her that her 5-year-old was model material. I don't know how much time and money she wasted on a very average tyke's career.

Is it really wasted if it paid some photographer's rent?

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
My cousin "married" his girlfriend who had a double-lung transplant for a terrible disease. He can never legally marry her because she has so much medical debt that it would financially ruin him as well, but they still had a ceremony and I would never say their union is less than another just because of legal reasons. Is there a reason they have to sign a legal, notarized document?

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
A will from a wealthy but obscure great-uncle bachelor that singles him out as the sole beneficiary of his fortune, unless he marries before the age of [x], in which case it will be given to his parents instead

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

MagusofStars posted:

Lesser known 41 year old actresses can already struggle to book jobs even if they have previous well-regarded roles in other films / shows. For someone with zero acting experience, zero acting training, zero contacts, and an "I'm too good to work my way up from local" attitude? She legitimately might have better odds on building a small moon rocket in the backyard.

No. You see it was the husband not letting her fly to NY, Atlanta and LA for months at a time who was holding her back.

This woman would have been much better off if she had gotten some roles in local community theatre, and could call herself an "actress" and satisfy her delusions of grandeur that way. Instead she has moved to LA to be a star.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

I bet you could start an acting career in your 40s if your ambition is to get like "mom in a commercial" type roles. Blowing up a family for that is kinda nuts, though.

wheatpuppy
Apr 25, 2008

YOU HAVE MY POST!

BrigadierSensible posted:

No. You see it was the husband not letting her fly to NY, Atlanta and LA for months at a time who was holding her back.

This woman would have been much better off if she had gotten some roles in local community theatre, and could call herself an "actress" and satisfy her delusions of grandeur that way. Instead she has moved to LA to be a star.

At the time, they already lived in LA - the husband only recently moved to the bay area for his work. So it becomes even more insane that she wanted to go to NY or Atlanta or wherever for *weeks at a time* because she had a shot at a commercial.

Unrelated, but I just realized my tablet autocorrects "insane" to "INSANE" and I don't know why or when that started. But I suspect it's to do with this thread.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Just be the woman that drops and spills poo poo as everything goes black and white.

wheatpuppy
Apr 25, 2008

YOU HAVE MY POST!

Pope Corky the IX posted:

Just be the woman that drops and spills poo poo as everything goes black and white.

Please turn my monitor back on.

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat
the woman in that sears AC commercial only she completely loses her poo poo at her husband

Troublemaker
Mar 12, 2007

Cowslips Warren posted:

AITA for telling my biological daughter i’m not her mother?

I will make this quick, for starters I 43F have a 46F sister. Her and her husband found out at a young age that they were not able to have kids. The both of them. 16 years ago at a family gathering my sister and her husband both approached me confiding to me about their infertility issues and how they always wanted a child. This was normal for me since we’ve always talked about these things. They then went on to ask if my husband and I could have a baby and give it to them to make them happy. I had no problem with this because it’s my sister and i couldn’t imagine not being able to have a child of my own. Long story short i did it and gave birth to my beautiful niece. My sister was so happy and it brought tears to my eyes.


Do people actually do this? I mean, obviously there are surrogates and such, but I can't imagine having a kid with my spouse, handing it to my sister, and waving goodbye for the next 10 years. The thought of my kid out there being raised by others kind of freaks me out, especially since I have kids of my own, like OP does. It'd weird me out to think I wouldn't love that kid as much as I do the ones in my house, and want to be part of its life. OP is like, sure, it's just a kid, why not? And her husband is totally cool with it and has no attachment to the child either?

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I mean surrogacy is a thing for a reason. And some people are very easily able to compartmentalize. If they were surrogates for a friend who lived half the world away it'd feel different, but it's not ya know?

But also I dunno how I'd feel basically watching the kid grow up either. I don't have, don't plan to, and can't have kids, so luckily not an issue I'll have to deal with lol

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Nocheez posted:

My cousin "married" his girlfriend who had a double-lung transplant for a terrible disease. He can never legally marry her because she has so much medical debt that it would financially ruin him as well, but they still had a ceremony and I would never say their union is less than another just because of legal reasons. Is there a reason they have to sign a legal, notarized document?

I think that the two who want to get married want to actually legally get married and don't understand (or care) that it will hurt their finances. Family wants them to THINK they're married so they don't have to pick up financial slack if they actually get married.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Yeah, why not? Pretty good deal, all things considered. Although the ideal is finding a nest with a few eggs in it, knock em out and put yours in there instead and let someone else do the gestating AND the feeding.

MagusofStars
Mar 31, 2012



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AITA for telling my sister-in-law that she didn't actually run a marathon?

I've been a runner for as long as I can remember, I absolutely love it. I want running to continue growing as a competitive activity and as a just-for-fun hobby. I encourage and support newcomers to running, but recently I encountered a situation where I felt gate-keeping was necessary. My sister-in-law got into running last year, and she absolutely fell in-love with it as well. Since I am also a runner, I decided I could connect with her on the topic. I wanted to hear about her runs, her progress, and maybe offer some helpful guidance if she wanted it. So, at a family gathering I ask her about running.

After a bit of conversation, she mentioned to me that she ran a marathon. I was quite surprised, she ran a marathon after only getting into running a year ago. That is amazing, what incredible dedication and drive (I thought to myself). I was about to praise her for this incredible accomplishment, but then she explain this "marathon" in detail. It was a virtual marathon that she started late last year and apparently completed this year. Basically it was an app based event where you tally up your running distances until you reach 42.2km (26.2 miles). I chuckled slightly and told her that its great she totalled 42.2km in that time-frame, but it doesn't count as a marathon. I told her that a marathons have time limits for completion, usually 6 to 8 hours. If they didn't, then I could claim multiple ultra-marathons via the aggregate distances I ran in my life. Its disingenuous and in my opinion, undermines those who have actually ran a marathon.

She didn't take this well, she called me an rear end in a top hat, a bully, an elitist, and a few other things. I apologized for upsetting her, but I stand by what I said, she didn't run a marathon. I didn't press the subject at all and left it at that, she wouldn't speak to me the rest of the gathering. My wife agrees with me, despite not being a runner herself, she said her sister overreacted. Their mother said that I should have just let my sister-in-law believe that she ran a marathon. Maybe, I don't know....she is 23 years old, without any impairments. Validating her "marathon" would feel similar to lying to a child to boost their confidence. The difference is, she is not a child.

Am I The rear end in a top hat?
Good news everyone, we can now all say we completed a marathon! because over the entire course of your life it probably adds up to 26.2 miles

MagusofStars fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jul 13, 2023

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
She's a dipshit but I don't think it's possible to argue with her without being an even bigger dipshit by virtue of caring about stolen runner's valor. Just smile and nod and let her be an idiot.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Nocheez posted:

My cousin "married" his girlfriend who had a double-lung transplant for a terrible disease. He can never legally marry her because she has so much medical debt that it would financially ruin him as well, but they still had a ceremony and I would never say their union is less than another just because of legal reasons. Is there a reason they have to sign a legal, notarized document?

Disabled cousin wants to marry his disabled girlfriend. This is all cool and good.

The thing is if they get legally married, they will half their income, (only one Disability check for the couple as opposed to two for the two singles). And as the couple struggles financially as it is, Grandma wants to have all the fooferall of a wedding but not to have it be legal. So they can keep both disability checks. And is trying to drag OP in to participate in the "fake" wedding.

OP says no because it's immoral to lie to the disabled people. As a legal notary he can get in trouble for it. Also, it will cause drama, (at the least), when the disabled couple find out they were lied to.

So the couple are fine and in love and all that, Grandma is just trying to trick them so she can commit legal and financial fraud, and OP is rightfully having nothing to do with it.

That's my reading of the situation anyway. I may very well be wrong.

Invisible Clergy
Sep 25, 2015

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces"

Malachi 2:3

lifg posted:

What happens to all those actors and actresses who move to LA and never break big? Do they leave? Do they stick around waiting tables forever? Do they get jobs in related fields?

They do porn.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
How does it take like a year to hit 42km? How little do people move? I'm not even a runner, I've done a couple 10km runs and they were fun (and exhausting!) and I irregularly go for a walk to the city which is about 5km along a nice route, but even disregarding that I would have thought on average people are moving like 1km a day at least?

Like moving 100m ten times a day seems pretty minimal? Even walking around an office filing papers etc. I guess if you are 100% at a desk I understand the limitations, but if you're a runner then it doesn't matter anyway?

I'm just perplexed at 42km taking a year.

DeeplyConcerned
Apr 29, 2008

I can fit 3 whole bud light cans now, ask me how!

FMguru posted:

Yeah, stories where big developments happen in real time as updates or in the comments section always get my "this is a creative writing exercise" antennae twitching.

Trust no one

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Midnight Voyager posted:

I think that the two who want to get married want to actually legally get married and don't understand (or care) that it will hurt their finances. Family wants them to THINK they're married so they don't have to pick up financial slack if they actually get married.

It's amazing how weird and horrible and stupid people get about the mentally disabled and try to basically Truman Show them through life. I do get the feeling there's a heavy misunderstanding of disability welfare laws involved too.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Ghost Leviathan posted:

It's amazing how weird and horrible and stupid people get about the mentally disabled and try to basically Truman Show them through life. I do get the feeling there's a heavy misunderstanding of disability welfare laws involved too.

I don’t know enough about this stuff to say for sure but maybe it’s possible them getting married would threaten to reveal that the family has been committing fraud and skimming from the disability checks for years.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

syntaxfunction posted:

How does it take like a year to hit 42km? How little do people move? I'm not even a runner, I've done a couple 10km runs and they were fun (and exhausting!) and I irregularly go for a walk to the city which is about 5km along a nice route, but even disregarding that I would have thought on average people are moving like 1km a day at least?

Like moving 100m ten times a day seems pretty minimal? Even walking around an office filing papers etc. I guess if you are 100% at a desk I understand the limitations, but if you're a runner then it doesn't matter anyway?

I'm just perplexed at 42km taking a year.

I'm not a runner, but here's all the running I do all the time

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
My dude doing a couple 10km runs like a half decade ago and walking 5km a couple times a year does not make me a runner lmao

It's be like plinking away on a keyboard every now and again and telling everyone I was a pianist.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
You were talking about a years worth of walking so I assumed you were bringing up recent running.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Khanstant posted:

You were talking about a years worth of walking so I assumed you were bringing up recent running.

42.2km of incidental exercise should be pretty standard, you don't need to run 10kms to do that. That's less than 1km of movement a week in less than a year. That's, yeah, not a lot?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Nocheez posted:

My cousin "married" his girlfriend who had a double-lung transplant for a terrible disease. He can never legally marry her because she has so much medical debt that it would financially ruin him as well, but they still had a ceremony and I would never say their union is less than another just because of legal reasons. Is there a reason they have to sign a legal, notarized document?

It doesn't work like Cowboy Bebop where you are automatically on the hook for your spouse's debts. Shady debt collectors will absolutely try and bully you into paying but as long as you keep your finances separate it wouldn't be a problem. Unless I guess wife is also on SSDI and getting married would put her over that threshold.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

MagusofStars posted:

Good news everyone, we can now all say we completed a marathon! because over the entire course of your life it probably adds up to 26.2 miles

By that definition, I ran a marathon when I was 12 in seventh grade PE running the mile every week but even then I was a proto-goon and just walked it.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

syntaxfunction posted:

42.2km of incidental exercise should be pretty standard, you don't need to run 10kms to do that. That's less than 1km of movement a week in less than a year. That's, yeah, not a lot?

Judging by the description of the app I assume it's something where you have to specifically tell it when you're participating on a run, rather than an always-on step counter that tracks all your incidental movement throughout the day.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Yeah, but that's kind of the point. 1km is like a 10 minute walk. If you're a runner, and doing running, and have apps and fitbits and stuff I feel like it really shouldn't take you a year to get there, even with one run a week.

But I also may be horribly misjudging the initial point of fitness and capabilities tbh.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Ghost Leviathan posted:

It's amazing how weird and horrible and stupid people get about the mentally disabled and try to basically Truman Show them through life. I do get the feeling there's a heavy misunderstanding of disability welfare laws involved too.

I think the lying could be because of the wishes of the actual disabled people in question. It's hard to tell, because everyone involved kinda seems to be treating them like pets and don't mention their ACTUAL wishes at all. Because legally speaking, yeah, if two disabled people marry, the government can cut down how much they pay both of them. It's (informally) called a "marriage penalty." It's bad enough when one person marrying a person with an okay income can mean they lose their benefits and now maybe can't afford married life.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

BrigadierSensible posted:


OP says no because it's immoral to lie to the disabled people. As a legal notary he can get in trouble for it. Also, it will cause drama, (at the least), when the disabled couple find out they were lied to.

So the couple are fine and in love and all that, Grandma is just trying to trick them so she can commit legal and financial fraud, and OP is rightfully having nothing to do with it.

That's my reading of the situation anyway. I may very well be wrong.

I think the question is a bit more complicated...

Generally mentally competent people make choices we disagree with all the time, sometimes extremely poor choices, otherwise smart people buy homes and cars they can't comfortably afford, invest in Bitcoin and Gamestop, etc.

If they are mental capable, they are fully able to decide to lower their income with the loss of disability payments because it is worth it to them to have a legal document that they are married. If they aren't capable of making that decision, people lie to mentally disabled people all the loving time for good reason if they can't make decisions on their own behalf because they might not understand the consequences of those decisions and the power has legally been given to other people for that very reason.

3 hours before he died I was assuring my neighbor that we would help him the next day to start a new cancer treatment he heard about and help him with his tummy sore (He had been on death watch for almost three days, his "tummy sore" was necrotic flesh from the tumor that had eaten completely through his belly from the tumor.)

I dunno, I think you can lie to people that aren't negatively affected by decisions and can't make them for themselves if it makes them feel better.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

syntaxfunction posted:

42.2km of incidental exercise should be pretty standard, you don't need to run 10kms to do that. That's less than 1km of movement a week in less than a year. That's, yeah, not a lot?

I walk a lot, don't have car and I do 2x walk a day instead of exercise so any amount of running sounds like too much (to be fair it's so hot and humid for months I'm soaked and feel brain frying by the time I reach sidewalk from front door) -- but if my goal were to run, especially in a way I'd bring up to someone else, I'd pick an arbitrary clean number like 1 mile a week, which should get you about 2 marathons a year.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Pirate Radar posted:

I don’t know enough about this stuff to say for sure but maybe it’s possible them getting married would threaten to reveal that the family has been committing fraud and skimming from the disability checks for years.

That would explain a lot, yeah.

Midnight Voyager posted:

I think the lying could be because of the wishes of the actual disabled people in question. It's hard to tell, because everyone involved kinda seems to be treating them like pets and don't mention their ACTUAL wishes at all. Because legally speaking, yeah, if two disabled people marry, the government can cut down how much they pay both of them. It's (informally) called a "marriage penalty." It's bad enough when one person marrying a person with an okay income can mean they lose their benefits and now maybe can't afford married life.

Though of course this is a thing too, for I'm sure some very good reason. Actually it's probably literally eugenics.

PurpleLizardWizard
Jun 11, 2012

Midnight Voyager posted:

I think that the two who want to get married want to actually legally get married and don't understand (or care) that it will hurt their finances. Family wants them to THINK they're married so they don't have to pick up financial slack if they actually get married.

It's going to depend on their state and their exact situation, but them officially getting married could reduce their combined benefits by 25%.

Paper from the Social Security Administration discussing this: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/issuepapers/ip2003-01.html
Article walking through various kinds of benefits and which ones may or may not be impacted by marriage: https://www.specialneedsalliance.org/the-voice/what-happens-when-persons-living-with-disabilities-marry-2/

Also, if you click through the first link you might notice the weird phrasing of "found to be representing themselves as husband and wife." That's the extra hosed up thing with marriage and disability benefits. You don't even need to be legally married to get penalized. The reduction of benefits is a well known enough thing that a lot of disabled couples will cohabitate with no intentions to legally marry, and some American government programs decided to close that potential loophole. If an outside party would reasonably believe the couple are spouses, they may be treated as such for the purposes of benefits.

So grandma thinks she found this One Weird Trick to keep their full benefits, but if anyone with authority ever pays attention it's going to be treated the same. Just without any of the legal benefits of marriage.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

PurpleLizardWizard posted:

Also, if you click through the first link you might notice the weird phrasing of "found to be representing themselves as husband and wife." That's the extra hosed up thing with marriage and disability benefits. You don't even need to be legally married to get penalized. The reduction of benefits is a well known enough thing that a lot of disabled couples will cohabitate with no intentions to legally marry, and some American government programs decided to close that potential loophole. If an outside party would reasonably believe the couple are spouses, they may be treated as such for the purposes of benefits.

There is an entire discussion to be had about SSDI benefits, but marriage and especially cohabitating absolutely reduces living expenses by A LOT. Massive government programs are complicated but I'm pretty sure this whole prevision was designed so if you are both living on survival income in 1 bedroom apartments and move in together in a 1 bedroom apartment you don't get to use the extra money to buy an Playstation. SSDI is not earned income, it's money so you don't you (hopefully) end up on the streets. Like, your social security benefit doesn't decrease because you get married, you earned it by paying into it, SSDI is what you need, regardless of what you have paid, to not live under a bridge eating cat food.

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kru
Oct 5, 2003

According to that woman's logic I did 3 marathons last month, which is very impressive I'm sure you will all agree (mostly walking between pubs)

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Three Olives posted:

There is an entire discussion to be had about SSDI benefits, but marriage and especially cohabitating absolutely reduces living expenses by A LOT. Massive government programs are complicated but I'm pretty sure this whole prevision was designed so if you are both living on survival income in 1 bedroom apartments and move in together in a 1 bedroom apartment you don't get to use the extra money to buy an Playstation.

:thunk: lot to unpack in this post. I like the use of a PlayStation as an example of how much more money two people on disability would get it they lived together. Really helps paint the picture. Vivid and striking.

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Three Olives posted:

There is an entire discussion to be had about SSDI benefits, but marriage and especially cohabitating absolutely reduces living expenses by A LOT. Massive government programs are complicated but I'm pretty sure this whole prevision was designed so if you are both living on survival income in 1 bedroom apartments and move in together in a 1 bedroom apartment you don't get to use the extra money to buy an Playstation. SSDI is not earned income, it's money so you don't you (hopefully) end up on the streets. Like, your social security benefit doesn't decrease because you get married, you earned it by paying into it, SSDI is what you need, regardless of what you have paid, to not live under a bridge eating cat food.

Tell this to the face of anyone on disability benefits, you utter ghoul.

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Sep 17, 2007

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