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@broken boy soldier may I ask what brought you into the game, out of curiosity? Was it recommended by a friend, did you see an ad, did you randomly see someone mention it in on SA, etc?
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broken boy soldier posted:Just jumped into MTG and have been loving learning the game through arena. However, I am looking for irl community and interaction in a hobby, so I want to jump into paper asap. You should check to see if any of your local stores have any kind of Pauper presence, since you can build tier 1 pauper decks for like $60, and have a bunch of them for variety. Faeries/Delver and Bogles are kinda the equivalents to MUT and Enchantress, although Faeries is usually UB and Bogles is more of an auras based Voltron aggro deck
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Jul 12, 2023 20:45
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kalel posted:@broken boy soldier I’ve always had an interest in card games, but the recent spark definitely came from a friend who has been playing for years and has decks for most of the formats. Want to meet additional people as well, hence the focus on modern. I should know how to do this on mobile, but I don’t know how to quote two posts. There aren’t really any events I’ve seen, but my friend has pauper decks and I’ve been looking into getting bogle going!
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Jul 12, 2023 20:50
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Tolarion Community College also did a video on getting into Modern on a budget at the start of the year. The decklists may not be the best, but the basic principles should still apply. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUEnIlIDDX4 tl;dw, even a cheap but optimal Modern deck is probably going to cost a few hundred bucks, but there's a lot of replacements you could make that are worse cards but are still more than good enough for local game store levels of play. If you like playing the deck, you can always chip away and buy card upgrades over time.
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Jul 12, 2023 21:52
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Lurks With Wolves posted:Tolarion Community College also did a video on getting into Modern on a budget at the start of the year. The decklists may not be the best, but the basic principles should still apply. Will give this a watch, thank you! It’s been a blast learning about the game and the various formats, can’t wait to get a deck of my own and play some games irl.
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Jul 12, 2023 21:59
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Also if you like breaking the law, any card in a popular modern deck has a good counterfeit available for 3 bucks or so.
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Jul 12, 2023 22:01
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broken boy soldier posted:I’ve always had an interest in card games, but the recent spark definitely came from a friend who has been playing for years and has decks for most of the formats. Want to meet additional people as well, hence the focus on modern. You can also see if any friends have extra decks they'll let you borrow, to just try some stuff out
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Jul 12, 2023 22:02
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you can also just print everything on A4 paper and forgo official tournaments
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Jul 12, 2023 22:03
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Also try out the store and any other stores in the area before splashing out big bucks on a constructed deck. I keep trying to get this into the OP but the best (only?) way to stay engaged with magic and have a good time is to fall in to a crew of likeminded folks to play, playtest, even travel etc with. The game is fun but without a stable community to be a part of it's hard to stay connected. Also play limited but that goes for everyone 
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Jul 12, 2023 22:05
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kalel posted:you can also just print everything on A4 paper and forgo official tournaments +1 for printer proxies
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Jul 12, 2023 22:12
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just have enough chaff to back your proxies with real cards. Also, printing them is like playing Warhammer with an unpainted army. Draw your own proxies.
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Jul 12, 2023 22:14
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Dr. Stab posted:just have enough chaff to back your proxies with real cards. Also, printing them is like playing Warhammer with an unpainted army. Draw your own proxies. I agree 
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Jul 12, 2023 22:29
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kalel posted:you can also just print everything on A4 paper and forgo official tournaments Printer proxy tournaments are great and there should be more of them
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Jul 12, 2023 22:32
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Also try out the store and any other stores in the area before splashing out big bucks on a constructed deck. I keep trying to get this into the OP but the best (only?) way to stay engaged with magic and have a good time is to fall in to a crew of likeminded folks to play, playtest, even travel etc with. The game is fun but without a stable community to be a part of it's hard to stay connected. Also play limited but that goes for everyone This is the goal! There are a couple of stores located relatively close to me in West Los Angeles that I’m planning on checking out in the next week or so. I also have a necron commander deck that seems relatively cost-effective to upgrade, so another goal is to learn commander and attend those events as well.
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Jul 12, 2023 22:35
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@broken boy If you and your bud aren’t already, I highly recommend picking up Tabletop Simulator (if the steam sale is still up, it’s only $10; otherwise, $20) to jam games on. You can play any deck, any format, any cube, any Brian Demars style Battlebox. You can use sites like draftsim to practice drafting and then export those lists into Tabletop. It’s seriously great, and would probably be helpful in terms of testing out decks before you pull the $$ trigger. You’ll want to find a (free) MTG mod in the Steam Workshop in order to play. My personal favorite is this one: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2222607479 From there, there’s a whole Scryfall command library built in. Typically you’ll grab a MTGO formatted decklist and paste it into a new ‘Notebook’ page, found on top of screen. Then just type ‘Scryfall deck’ into chat and boom, it spawns the whole deck. Due to the whole thing being a simulated 3D space with shuffling, card drawing, dice rolling, etc, it captures the feeling of paper magic way more than Arena or MTGO, imo. Particularly insofar as it won’t hold your hand for any triggers - keeping track of one’s triggers is a crucial skill in paper magic that can wither away with too much time spent in Arena, in my experience. /twocents
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Flutch posted:@broken boy Oh that's cool! I picked Tabletop Simulator up just because I thought it looked neat. I didn't know you could play magic on it
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Does anyone have a good playtest sticker template or anything like that? Like, don't care about the art or anything fancy, but handwriting a whole deck with sharpies get boring after about 2 playsets. And some cards have a lot of poo poo on em.
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Framboise posted:Oh that's cool! I picked Tabletop Simulator up just because I thought it looked neat. I didn't know you could play magic on it It seriously owns. So fun to just spin up the hottest new Pioneer deck and jam, no hassle, no strings. It’s also fantastic for board games, which the Steam Workshop is full of. Seems like 90%+ of games are on there as mods, even a lot of the ones that TTS sells official versions of.
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broken boy soldier posted:This is super helpful, thank you! I will keep in mind that nothing from either deck is shared, that’s great to know. I have a dream list of paper decks I’m building to work toward, and these both just made it! Thanks again. Search for the terms “bootleg”on Reddit for some help in finding more affordable alternatives. Many places holding many discussions. Hundreds of hours worth. Pm me to get a useful link to a comprehensive wiki. You will be able to play modern at a reasonable price and then build your collection more traditionally while you play. I have walked irk friends through this so many times it’s almost on auto pilot.
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Flutch posted:It seriously owns. So fun to just spin up the hottest new Pioneer deck and jam, no hassle, no strings. This is an amazing tip, will definitely look into it!
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I really like playing MTG on tabletop sim but I have no one to play with except one friend who constantly flakes. And even then he's only interested in commander 
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Flutch posted:It seriously owns. So fun to just spin up the hottest new Pioneer deck and jam, no hassle, no strings. Whoa, how easy is it to like, set things up and get other players in? I assume they all need at least a copy of the game. I've got some folks who are or might be interested in playing together, but don't wanna spend a ton of money about it, and we usually just play poo poo dead simple to setup like Jackbox or whatever. I know it can't be that simple, but how much harder is it?
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Khanstant posted:Whoa, how easy is it to like, set things up and get other players in? It’s very low hassle. As long as everyone has a copy of the game, and someone is subscribed to the Workshop mod, that person just hosts a game, boots up the mod, and everyone else joins via Steam friends menu. I’d say as long as the host has basic familiarity with how the mod works, you’re set. Protip: if you’re fetishy about card art like me, input ‘Scryfall quality large’ before spawning decks for maximum resolution. Great for zooming in and admiring the art.
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Sweet, good to know. The cool art is definitely part of the game's appeal. I should find a good set of decks for us to mess with without anyone having to build. Ooh I'll find out myself soon but setting up custom drafts could be cool.
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broken boy soldier posted:This is the goal! There are a couple of stores located relatively close to me in West Los Angeles that I’m planning on checking out in the next week or so. Both stores have active Discord servers if you wanna check the community out. There's also It's Game Time in Palms, which is pretty small without much room to play, and Paper Hero seems to mostly have Commander events on the calandar.
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Framboise posted:Oh that's cool! I picked Tabletop Simulator up just because I thought it looked neat. I didn't know you could play magic on it I honestly like it much better than cockatrice, xmage, etc. for magic games, especially commander tbh. It's just harder to get games for without a group for it in advance.
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Jul 13, 2023 02:28
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Regarding printer proxies: If you get them printed on 110 lb cardstock, they're thick enough to put in sleeves by themselves. I've been getting mine done at the local Office Depot, since it's too thick for a home printer.
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quick question. Why isn't it possible for me to cast Balrog's Lash targeting Sauron, sac that 1/1 menace that tempts when it dies, use the death trigger to make something legendary, and then sac the legendary for Sauron's ward cost?
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A Moose posted:quick question. Why isn't it possible for me to cast Balrog's Lash targeting Sauron, sac that 1/1 menace that tempts when it dies, use the death trigger to make something legendary, and then sac the legendary for Sauron's ward cost? Because you're playing Balrog's Lash on your turn. So all your triggered abilities (the Tempt trigger) go on the stack first, then all your opponent's triggered abilities (Ward), and their triggers resolve first.
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Jabor posted:Because you're playing Balrog's Lash on your turn. So all your triggered abilities (the Tempt trigger) go on the stack first, then all your opponent's triggered abilities (Ward), and their triggers resolve first. oh right. Welp, I was against a Sauron in draft, so I had probably already lost anyway
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Cockatrice is another way to play online if you just want to jam games with a friend. Don't get the animations or any rules engine but it's good for games
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Re:printer proxies. I tried printing on transparent label sheets to place on foils (used acetone to remove art). It worked but I don't really recommend it. Trying to place them centered and straight was a huge pain in the rear end followed by cleaning up the inevitable overhangs. Also because the label is on top of the card it will curl depending on humidity and the art will scratch because it's printed on top. If I was to do it again for playtest cards I would print on white labels, scale the printed card down 90% so they can be cut with a paper cutter and when placed cover the vast majority of the original card but not overhang.
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I played against a guy at one of my LGSs who had an entire deck printer proxied, cool no sweat from me... oh literally all of the cards are black and white 
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Johnny Truant posted:I played against a guy at one of my LGSs who had an entire deck printer proxied, cool no sweat from me... oh literally all of the cards are black and white Double Feature proxies only
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Johnny Truant posted:I played against a guy at one of my LGSs who had an entire deck printer proxied, cool no sweat from me... oh literally all of the cards are black and white Oh yeah that's a pain
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Double Feature proxies only I've never seen this before! I feel like it could be done well? ilmucche posted:Oh yeah that's a pain Yeah, it wasn't like the double feature that JaKiri just linked, it was every mana symbol too, which... way slightly irritating, yeah. I just had to keep asking to look at the cat's cards cause I couldn't tell what the gently caress was what. It did feel good to kill the fuuuuuck out of him, lol
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That set of full art lands from crimson vow/double feature are nearly indistinguishable from one another. The narrow coloured border is and mana symbol at the bottom is insufficient to easily tell which is which across the table.
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Johnny Truant posted:I played against a guy at one of my LGSs who had an entire deck printer proxied, cool no sweat from me... oh literally all of the cards are black and white Are LGS's broadly cooling on allowing proxies at non-tournament events? Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I remember my old one forbid them because they worried of getting in trouble with wotc.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Are LGS's broadly cooling on allowing proxies at non-tournament events? Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I remember my old one forbid them because they worried of getting in trouble with wotc. I only have an n=1 but everyone at my table had proxies, myself included. Some printer papered, some on actual cardstock. Everybody seemed more focused on "how do we have a good game by aligning power levels" which was nice Nobody gave a fuuuuuck, but this is just "free play commander day" so it probably doesn't even touch wotc
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MasterBuilder posted:That set of full art lands from crimson vow/double feature are nearly indistinguishable from one another. The narrow coloured border is and mana symbol at the bottom is insufficient to easily tell which is which across the table. All they had to do was give the name and type boxes the same coloured backgrounds as the other full art lands, which would have made them some of my favourites. Instead I can only really use them in mono-coloured decks.
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