Engorged Pedipalps posted:

The pro Ukraine side is always doing this handwave poo poo where they just assume Ukraine will achieve not just victory, but overwhelming, implausible victory, and will just naturally achieve this without any strategy or effort

Afaict they're losing and have been for a while? Like how the gently caress is zelensky going to collapse the Kremlin if they can't even get through the defenses in Ukraine?

Neurolimal posted:

Scenarios where Trump sticks to abandoning Ukraine:

- He manages to remember one of the reasons he was impeached

- He meets him in person and is visibly disgusted by his gnome-like stature

Starsfan posted:

Oryx seems to be doing all the heavy lifting here. People are amazed that Russia is still losing 4 or 5 times the equipment of Ukraine even while Ukraine is on the offensive! Ukraine is completely re-writing the book on offensive operations by defying all the conventional wisdom and projections on the outcomes from these encounters! it's almost hard to believe how good they are at this war stuff!

**We're starting to reach the boundary of the limits on this absolute nonsense picture of the war however, as even the most willingly propagandized are wondering how Russia can still possibly be holding their positions despite suffering losses at this scale every day...

Nonsense posted:

Very high.

Al! posted:

hes gonna go goblin mode on europe

Al! posted:

hes gonna go goblin mode on europe

genericnick posted:

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1679529102879907855#m
so did they fire surovikin?

Мир сегодня с "Юрий Подоляка" posted:

_{(Click thumbnail to open video)}
The appeal of the commander of the 58th Combined Arms Army of the Southern Military District of the Armed Forces of Russia, Major General Ivan Popov, to his soldiers.

"...The enemy could not defeat us at the front, because our big bosses hit us in the back..."

General Popov is a real Russian officer and general! And his superiors seem to live in their own dimension of peacetime. I really hope that this story will reach the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the necessary measures will be taken.

@NeoficialniyBeZsonoV

Мир сегодня с "Юрий Подоляка" posted:

And once again about the removal of commander 58 A (thoughts aloud)

And what bothers me even more in this whole situation is that the command in the Kherson direction, which, let me remind you, failed the operation to occupy Antonovsky Island (which, with the correct organization of the attack, it was simply impossible to fail, but it managed to do it and the troops suffered heavy losses at the same time), the command of the General Staff claims No.

Although yes, the commander in the Kherson direction does not bother the authorities with "alarming" reports about problems in the troops, he always says that everything is fine at his site, and that... even fr. Antonovsky is under his full control (!!!).

That is, in fact, he deceived his superiors and ... the political leadership of the country.

So, the leadership of the General Staff obviously has no complaints about this "commander" (due to the absence of "organizational issues").

And to the commander of 58A, who, largely thanks to his initiatives, won (maybe so) the main battle of the war, took out a particularly valuable trophy exactly where he was supposed to take it, they have complaints. Moreover, those that require mandatory removal of him from office.

You see, he upsets the command with his "disturbing reports".

And here I completely agree with dear Oleg Tsarev, who asked a VERY CORRECT QUESTION: "It is clear that the army is about order. But you can't turn the army of a warring country into a stage for actors."

Frosted Flake posted:

I know I live in a bubble, so I’m asking what regular people think. Surely not that the attacker (3:1 advantage required), outgunned 10:1 is somehow inflicting 5:1 or even 2:1 casualties on the defender?

How? I don’t mean philosophically or metaphysically, but in real terms by what mechanism do they envision this happening? Small arms fire? If so, as small arms engagements have a low lethality and take place with 150m, how are Ukrainian rifles inflicting causalities in Russian trenches with the more exposed Ukrainians getting the better of the exchange?

Crew served weapons? How does that mesh with Russia’s 10:1 advantage? In real, practical terms, what makes Ukrainian crew served weapons 10x more effective to achieve parity, and then another 2-5x more effective to achieve the claimed ratios?

I’m not trying to be pedantic or rhetorical, I’m just curious what normal people think the tactical situation looks like.

quote:

In accordance with section 12304(f) of title 10, United States Code, I am providing notice that I have authorized the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Department of the Navy, to order to active duty members and units of the Selected Reserve and appropriately designated Individual Ready Reserve members, without the consent of the member concerned, pursuant to 12304(a) of title 10, United States Code. Reserve mobilizations under this authorization are not to exceed 3,000 total members at any one time, of whom not more than 450 may be members of the Individual Ready Reserve. These Reserve Component forces are to augment the active forces for Operation Atlantic Resolve to enhance the United States’ ability to sustain its heightened level of presence and operations in support of United States European Command.

A copy of the Executive Order I have issued is enclosed.


JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR.

THE WHITE HOUSE,
July 13, 2023.

quote:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 121 and 12304 of title 10, United States Code, I hereby determine that it is necessary to augment the active Armed Forces of the United States for the effective conduct of Operation Atlantic Resolve in and around the United States European Command’s area of responsibility. In furtherance of this operation, under the stated authority, I hereby authorize the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Navy, under their respective jurisdictions, to order to active duty any units, and any individual members not assigned to a unit organized to serve as a unit of the Selected Reserve, or any member in the Individual Ready Reserve mobilization category and designated as essential under regulations prescribed by the Secretary concerned, not to exceed 3,000 total members at any one time, of whom not more than 450 may be members of the Individual Ready Reserve, as they deem necessary, and to terminate the service of those units and members ordered to active duty.

This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR.


THE WHITE HOUSE,
July 13, 2023.

quote:

Operation Atlantic Resolve, though not a "named" operation, refers to military activities in response to Russian operations in Ukraine, mainly the War in Donbass. It was funded under the European Deterrence Initiative. In the wake of Russia's 2014 intervention in Ukraine, the U.S. and the U.K. took several immediate steps to enhance the deterrence posture along the eastern flank of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), including augmenting the air, ground and naval presence in the region, and enhancing previously scheduled exercises.[1]

Frosted Flake posted:

I know I live in a bubble, so I’m asking what regular people think. Surely not that the attacker (3:1 advantage required), outgunned 10:1 is somehow inflicting 5:1 or even 2:1 casualties on the defender?

How? I don’t mean philosophically or metaphysically, but in real terms by what mechanism do they envision this happening? Small arms fire? If so, as small arms engagements have a low lethality and take place with 150m, how are Ukrainian rifles inflicting causalities in Russian trenches with the more exposed Ukrainians getting the better of the exchange?

Crew served weapons? How does that mesh with Russia’s 10:1 advantage? In real, practical terms, what makes Ukrainian crew served weapons 10x more effective to achieve parity, and then another 2-5x more effective to achieve the claimed ratios?

I’m not trying to be pedantic or rhetorical, I’m just curious what normal people think the tactical situation looks like.

Zodium posted:

ukraine's last hope is to spam roll generals and hope for one with high rolls, put him in a bait stack and lure russia into attacking across a river or up mountains, then force march a full reinforcement stack timed to arrive the day after the russians do.

www.usnews.com posted:

TORONTO (AP) — Decades after many other rich countries stopped forcibly sterilizing Indigenous women, numerous activists, doctors, politicians and at least five class-action lawsuits say the practice has not ended in Canada.

A Senate report last year concluded “this horrific practice is not confined to the past, but clearly is continuing today.” In May, a doctor was penalized for forcibly sterilizing an Indigenous woman in 2019.
Indigenous leaders say the country has yet to fully reckon with its troubled colonial past — or put a stop to a decades-long practice that is considered a type of genocide.

There are no solid estimates on how many women are still being sterilized against their will or without their knowledge, but Indigenous experts say they regularly hear complaints about it. Sen. Yvonne Boyer, whose office is collecting the limited data available, says at least 12,000 women have been affected since the 1970s.
“Whenever I speak to an Indigenous community, I am swamped with women telling me that forced sterilization happened to them,” Boyer, who has Indigenous Metis heritage, told The Associated Press.

Medical authorities in Canada’s Northwest Territories issued a series of punishments in May in what may be the first time a doctor has been sanctioned for forcibly sterilizing an Indigenous woman, according to documents obtained by the AP.

The case involves Dr. Andrew Kotaska, who performed an operation to relieve an Indigenous woman's abdominal pain in November 2019. He had her written consent to remove her right fallopian tube, but the patient, an Inuit woman, had not agreed to the removal of her left tube; losing both would leave her sterile.
Despite objections from other medical staff during the surgery, Kotaska took out both fallopian tubes.

The investigation concluded there was no medical justification for the sterilization, and Kotaska was found to have engaged in unprofessional conduct. Kotaska's “severe error in surgical judgment” was unethical, cost the patient the chance to have more children and could undermine trust in the medical system, investigators said.

The case was likely not exceptional.
Thousands of Indigenous Canadian women over the past seven decades were coercively sterilized, in line with eugenics legislation that deemed them inferior. In the U.S., forced sterilizations of Native American women mostly ended in the 1970s after new regulations were adopted requiring informed consent.

The Geneva Conventions describe forced sterilization as a type of genocide and crime against humanity and the Canadian government has condemned reports of forced sterilization elsewhere, including among Uyghur women in China.

In 2018, the U.N. Committee Against Torture told Canada it was concerned about persistent reports of forced sterilization, saying all allegations should be investigated and those found responsible held accountable.

In 2019, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau acknowledged that the murders and disappearances of Indigenous women across Canada amounted to “genocide,” but activists say little has been done to address ingrained prejudices against the Indigenous, allowing forced sterilizations to continue.

In a statement, the Canadian government told the AP it was aware of allegations that Indigenous women were forcibly sterilized and the matter is before the courts.
“Sterilization of women without their informed consent constitutes an assault and is a criminal offense,” the government said.

“We recognize the pressing need to end this practice across Canada,” it said, adding that it is working with provincial and territorial authorities, health agencies and Indigenous groups to eliminate systemic racism in the country's health systems.

Boyer, the senator collecting data on the issue, recalled once being approached by a tearful Indigenous woman describing her forced sterilization.

“It made my knees buckle to hear her story and to realize how common it was,” Boyer said. "Nothing has changed legally or culturally in Canada to stop this.”
…

mawarannahr posted:

what's going on

BadOptics posted:

I like how the article mentions a document by the Russian government to build 25 super-kill gulag complexes, and yet there's never a link to said document or anything.

Edit: Like you can point to the meeting minutes from the Wannsee Conference regarding the Nazi regime's plans for genocide, and yet there's claims of similar documents drafted/published by the Russians but no one can see them?

euphronius posted:

lol that’s literally genocide

mawarannahr posted:

what's going on

Nix Panicus posted:

3000 is not a lot of people, and the Individual Ready Reserve is made up of people who already did their time and got out but are still on the rolls for WW3 call up for another few years.
…
It's probably nothing.

euphronius posted:

lol that’s literally genocide

Frosted Flake posted:

If you guys are feeling like a deep dive, there are several books about all of the guys Monty fired. It’s really interesting and the central premise of the scholarship is that institutionally, that’s the difference between a wartime and peacetime Army. Lincoln of course fired general officers like crazy, and the same thing happened in the Great War. The Psychology of Military Incompetence is the book everyone has to read on their staff course that is entirely about it.

Lostconfused posted:

Frosted Flake posted:

I know I live in a bubble, so I’m asking what regular people think. Surely not that the attacker (3:1 advantage required), outgunned 10:1 is somehow inflicting 5:1 or even 2:1 casualties on the defender?

How? I don’t mean philosophically or metaphysically, but in real terms by what mechanism do they envision this happening? Small arms fire? If so, as small arms engagements have a low lethality and take place with 150m, how are Ukrainian rifles inflicting causalities in Russian trenches with the more exposed Ukrainians getting the better of the exchange?

Crew served weapons? How does that mesh with Russia’s 10:1 advantage? In real, practical terms, what makes Ukrainian crew served weapons 10x more effective to achieve parity, and then another 2-5x more effective to achieve the claimed ratios?

I’m not trying to be pedantic or rhetorical, I’m just curious what normal people think the tactical situation looks like.

Frosted Flake posted:

I know I live in a bubble, so I’m asking what regular people think. Surely not that the attacker (3:1 advantage required), outgunned 10:1 is somehow inflicting 5:1 or even 2:1 casualties on the defender?

How? I don’t mean philosophically or metaphysically, but in real terms by what mechanism do they envision this happening? Small arms fire? If so, as small arms engagements have a low lethality and take place with 150m, how are Ukrainian rifles inflicting causalities in Russian trenches with the more exposed Ukrainians getting the better of the exchange?

Crew served weapons? How does that mesh with Russia’s 10:1 advantage? In real, practical terms, what makes Ukrainian crew served weapons 10x more effective to achieve parity, and then another 2-5x more effective to achieve the claimed ratios?

I’m not trying to be pedantic or rhetorical, I’m just curious what normal people think the tactical situation looks like.

Starsfan posted:

Oryx seems to be doing all the heavy lifting here. People are amazed that Russia is still losing 4 or 5 times the equipment of Ukraine even while Ukraine is on the offensive! Ukraine is completely re-writing the book on offensive operations by defying all the conventional wisdom and projections on the outcomes from these encounters! it's almost hard to believe how good they are at this war stuff!

**We're starting to reach the boundary of the limits on this absolute nonsense picture of the war however, as even the most willingly propagandized are wondering how Russia can still possibly be holding their positions despite suffering losses at this scale every day...

Egg Moron posted:

name me one drat movie that smooth brained war lovers have seen where the good guys don't win big

Frosted Flake posted:

I know I live in a bubble, so I’m asking what regular people think. Surely not that the attacker (3:1 advantage required), outgunned 10:1 is somehow inflicting 5:1 or even 2:1 casualties on the defender?

How? I don’t mean philosophically or metaphysically, but in real terms by what mechanism do they envision this happening? Small arms fire? If so, as small arms engagements have a low lethality and take place with 150m, how are Ukrainian rifles inflicting causalities in Russian trenches with the more exposed Ukrainians getting the better of the exchange?

Crew served weapons? How does that mesh with Russia’s 10:1 advantage? In real, practical terms, what makes Ukrainian crew served weapons 10x more effective to achieve parity, and then another 2-5x more effective to achieve the claimed ratios?

I’m not trying to be pedantic or rhetorical, I’m just curious what normal people think the tactical situation looks like.

Egg Moron posted:

name me one drat movie that smooth brained war lovers have seen where the good guys don't win big

quote:

A medic and former member of the Parachute regiment, Alan fought in various conflicts and worked as a private military contractor in Iraq and Afghanistan. He rarely visits the UK and lives in Croatia.
...
Neither volunteer has signed an official contract with Ukraine’s armed forces. Their commander covered day-to-day expenses, Alan said. The Kremlin alleges its “special military operation” is needed to “denazify” Ukraine and claims the Da Vinci Wolves group is a far-right nationalist outfit. Its leader, Dmytro “Da Vinci” Kotsyubaylo, died in March while fighting near Bakhmut.

Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, and other senior government figures attended Kotsyubaylo’s funeral in Kyiv, which was screened live on national television, with the soldier’s open coffin taken from St Michael’s gold-domed monastery to the capital’s Maidan independence square. Zelenskiy called the fallen soldier a hero.

Alan said: “The guys I am with are patriots. I have yet to find a Nazi anywhere on this side of the lines.”

quote:

Full name: 1st Battalion “Da Vinci Wolves” Ukrainian Volunteer Corps “Right Sector”