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The funniest part is that the past nine months or so have been his 100% honest efforts to make Twitter profitable and they have, to a one, been miserable loving failures.
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Lumbermouth posted:The funniest part is that the past nine months or so have been his 100% honest efforts to make Twitter profitable and they have, to a one, been miserable loving failures. In general, Silicon Valley ‘successful’ people always come off to me as some of the dumbest people on the planet. As an example besides Musk, Jack Dorsey opted to keep equity in Twitter rather than take the large cash payout he could have received instead. He has said in the past that he believes in Musk and that’s why he kept his equity stake.
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Jul 14, 2023 16:29
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InediblePenguin posted:He didn't really want to buy it, right? And then he got forced to in court unless i misremember? So yeah he wants to kill it out of spite. He got forced to take care of this website and he's going to do a comically bad job so it dies and that will be a lesson to you for asking him to be responsible for things! Just like abusers do He wanted to buy twitter so he signed a contract to buy it that waived all due diligence and basically gave him no way to back out. He immediately regretted this and spent months trying to get out. He could not so he had to buy it. There is no plan. He's not making GBS threads it up out of spite or being an abuser. He's just that loving stupid. He really does think that all his terrible ideas will save twitter after he drove off all the ad revenue by being himself. Again: twitter didn't trick him into buying it. He gave them a hilariously overpriced offer(when their stock was already at an alltime high) and then regretted signing the contract almost immediately after. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK has a new favorite as of 16:45 on Jul 14, 2023 |
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InediblePenguin posted:He didn't really want to buy it, right? And then he got forced to in court unless i misremember? So yeah he wants to kill it out of spite. He got forced to take care of this website and he's going to do a comically bad job so it dies and that will be a lesson to you for asking him to be responsible for things! Just like abusers do Yeah, my take is that he was just trying to gently caress around with the stock price like the usual "gonna buy all this stock at $420 lolol jkjk (unless...)" shenanigans, but hosed up and basically got stuck with the extremely stupid purchase he never expected to actually do. Everything after is his flapping around trying to figure out how to deal with that recurring $1B repayment that Twitter couldn't possibly provide, except he's just exceptionally loving stupid. He's a great hype man to act as a public face, but has absolutely no idea what to do when he's actually making the decisions, and has no idea what the actual consequences of his actions will be because he usually never actually has any. Oops, All Terrible Ideas!
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Jul 14, 2023 16:54
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He's also pretty clearly hosed up on probably a candy store's worth of drugs at any time, on top of being a delusional insecure manchild and near open nazi wallowing in an echo chamber of fellow loser freaks.
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Jul 14, 2023 17:57
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You really can just find+replace anything people have wondered about Trump running America with "Musk" and "Twitter". It's hard to comprehend that level of incompetence and we think there must be some secret strategy, but they're really just that vain and just that bad at doing anything that requires actual ingenuity.
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Jul 14, 2023 19:04
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It will never not be funny that he made blue-checked bots possible after complaining so much about the number of bots in the site.
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Jul 14, 2023 19:07
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Yeah, I'll accept this alternate take into my worldview
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Jul 14, 2023 19:08
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FlamingLiberal posted:For situations like this I prefer to use Occam’s Razor, and it seems obvious to me that what we want to explain as a conspiracy is far more likely just Elon being an overconfident dumbass who thinks he can do anything because he’s mostly succeeded with his previous business ventures. That's not at all inconsistent with what I said. Elon could be the textbook useful idiot for elements of Saudi and Russian governments.
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Sir Lemming posted:You really can just find+replace anything people have wondered about Trump running America with "Musk" and "Twitter". It's hard to comprehend that level of incompetence and we think there must be some secret strategy, but they're really just that vain and just that bad at doing anything that requires actual ingenuity. Not so, Trump never paid money to dismantle the country. His family made money on the whole, or at least Kushner did. Volmarias has a new favorite as of 20:01 on Jul 14, 2023 |
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Jul 14, 2023 19:54
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You got to respect Warner Brothers for doing everything possible to make sure the Flash fails as hard as possible. The last time a studio owned themselves this hard is when the internet gaslit a studio into releasing Morbius again only for it to flop again
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Jul 14, 2023 21:33
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CharlestheHammer posted:You got to respect Warner Brothers for doing everything possible to make sure the Flash fails as hard as possible. They pushed it to the point where it looks so bad I'm very curious to see how bad but also that is not an impulse that gets me to the theater either.
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Jul 14, 2023 21:52
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CharlestheHammer posted:The last time a studio owned themselves this hard is when the internet gaslit a studio into releasing Morbius again only for it to flop again That's giving the studio too much credit. The Morbius thing was more like them reading hundreds upon thousands of memes and NOT ONCE realizing they were being ironic and that people genuinely wanted to see this movie again.
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Jul 14, 2023 21:58
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I guess Tesla and SpaceX succeeded because electric cars and space rockets meet two important criteria:
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Jul 14, 2023 22:00
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:I guess Tesla and SpaceX succeeded because electric cars and space rockets meet two important criteria: Twitter was both of those things and had a lot of passionate and talented people working on it. People Elon immediately fired because they were too 'woke'.
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Jul 14, 2023 22:28
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:I guess Tesla and SpaceX succeeded because electric cars and space rockets meet two important criteria: You think electric cars and space rockets are "obviously not tech"?
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:I guess Tesla and SpaceX succeeded because electric cars and space rockets meet two important criteria:
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Jul 14, 2023 22:33
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Terrible Opinions posted:Tesla wasn't profitable from selling cars. It made most of its money from selling carbon credits. Basically the same with SpaceX. It only exists because of government handouts. Jasper Tin Neck posted:I guess Tesla and SpaceX succeeded because electric cars and space rockets meet two important criteria: SpaceX has a bunch of people to keep Elon away from real decisions. But sometimes he does get his way and then you get their last rocket launch lol CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK has a new favorite as of 22:38 on Jul 14, 2023 |
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Jul 14, 2023 22:36
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:I guess Tesla and SpaceX succeeded because electric cars and space rockets meet two important criteria: Tesla was founded by people who aren’t Musk, who only bought in later and used his wealth to leverage control away from the founder. You’ll notice they are having issues making a new model or refreshing an existing model, as most anybody with any talent for that has quit to either found another car company (Lucid) or just work for one. It’s why they suddenly signed everybody up to use and access their charging connector, the supercharger network is pretty much the only valuable asset they have left. SpaceX is more something he was involved with from the start, but I’d look at Gwynne Shotwell as the person who likely built the company and lead to almost all its successes. I hope history treats her more kindly than the present is, she’s been an absolute driver of space related progress.
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I assume by "not tech" they mean not IT, and not something a keyboard warrior assumes they'd automatically be good at. In a sense, Twitter is easier to ruin because there aren't really any fundamental physical rules to how it must work. It's not like he could tell Tesla to just delete the wheels off the cars. Although now that they're established, it does seem like he's finding new and unique ways to ruin those too. Meanwhile with SpaceX, it's not like any of us could really even tell if that's going well or not. It's something most of us have never even come close to being involved in.
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Jul 14, 2023 23:09
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EoRaptor posted:Tesla was founded by people who aren’t Musk, who only bought in later and used his wealth to leverage control away from the founder. You’ll notice they are having issues making a new model or refreshing an existing model, as most anybody with any talent for that has quit to either found another car company (Lucid) or just work for one. It’s why they suddenly signed everybody up to use and access their charging connector, the supercharger network is pretty much the only valuable asset they have left. Musk is an idiot out of his depth at Twitter and I personally would never buy a Tesla. You don’t have to make poo poo up to dislike the guy.
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EoRaptor posted:SpaceX is more something he was involved with from the start, but I’d look at Gwynne Shotwell as the person who likely built the company and lead to almost all its successes. I hope history treats her more kindly than the present is, she’s been an absolute driver of space related progress. the script writers for reality keep getting lazier also having never heard of her, she sounds cool
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5TonsOfFlax posted:You think electric cars and space rockets are "obviously not tech"? Yeah, I should have been more specific and said "consumer-oriented online services", which seems to constitute the bulk of what is considered "tech" these days Twitter is a consumer-oriented online service (like PayPal!) whereas Tesla and SpaceX both involved a considerable amount of manufacturing.
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These posts are gonna make me look like I'm defending their shithead in charge and I own neither their cars nor their stock  Terrible Opinions posted:Tesla wasn't profitable from selling cars. It made most of its money from selling carbon credits. Tesla has been profitable without regulatory credits since sometime in 2021. I think the current contribution of credits to their profits is about 15%. EoRaptor posted:It’s why they suddenly signed everybody up to use and access their charging connector, the supercharger network is pretty much the only valuable asset they have left. This is also a strange interpretation of what's been happening. Tesla made their charging plug/standard available to anyone who wants to use it years ago. Back then no other carmaker gave a poo poo about electric cars and only made compliance vehicles, so nobody adopted it. Now they finally realized a reliable charging network is also necessary to sell non-poo poo cars, so they suddenly decided to start adopting it.
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Trabant posted:Tesla has been profitable without regulatory credits since sometime in 2021. I think the current contribution of credits to their profits is about 15%. Terrible Opinions has a new favorite as of 00:51 on Jul 15, 2023 |
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I must have hallucinated all those Teslas catching fire, driving into parked cars, and falling apart while brand new because of how shittily they are made.
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mycatscrimes posted:I must have hallucinated all those Teslas catching fire, driving into parked cars, and falling apart while brand new because of how shittily they are made.  Incidentally, it's extremely funny seeing Tesla stans rush into the comments of any news post about Teslas catching fire/deciding to run over a pedestrian for no reason/etc to scream about how it's actually fine and people just don't understand the price of innovation/are being too mean to brain genius Musk/etc. Twitter dying will probably reduce the amount of that I see, unfortunately. 
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CharlestheHammer posted:The last time a studio owned themselves this hard is when the internet gaslit a studio into releasing Morbius again only for it to flop again 
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Trabant posted:These posts are gonna make me look like I'm defending their shithead in charge and I own neither their cars nor their stock One of the things Tesla deserves genuine credit for is, basically, actually trying to get electric cars to take off, rather than the bedgrudging, deliberately terrible projects thus far to cement them as weird hippie poo poo that doesn't work for real people. They made them cool, cutting-edge and desirable over obsolete gas-guzzlers, and pushed them hard so it's possible to actually buy them. (Been stories of how if you go to a dealership and ask for an electric car they will do everything possible to stop you) Making a freely available plug standard seems like it'd be a key part of that, similar to how mobile phones and other electronics used to be a hellscape of different plugs until the industry was forced to settle on some standards.
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Musk/Tesla is paying off a whole bunch of people in Vegas because they're actually adding a whole bunch of miles to the stupid loving death tunnel instead of building an actual subway or extending the monorail.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:(Been stories of how if you go to a dealership and ask for an electric car they will do everything possible to stop you) A large part of my work involves reading editorials within the auto dealer industry, and this is about to change in a very big way. The people up top are pushing EV sales as the next big thing. (And they all hate Tesla for selling their own cars instead of going through the dealer system.)
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Vegetable posted:Come on, don’t be disingenuous. Tesla cars are genuinely among the best and most popular EVs on the market. Most popular, yes. Best, no. You have way too much faith in humanity if you think popular proves good.
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Lol at giving Elon Musk any credit for tesla's success. Well I guess maybe the money he spent to buy his way in was maybe used at some point to build a car. He's basically Iron Man if you think about it
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Haifisch posted:But they're expensive and have some fancy electronics in them, that must mean they're good!! My boss's mom-in-law is a giant Tesla stan (not Musk himself, specifically the Tesla company) and apparently whenever he tried to show her news articles of the cars catching on fire, she just waved him off with "Well, those are just OPINIONS". 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:He's also pretty clearly hosed up on probably a candy store's worth of drugs at any time, on top of being a delusional insecure manchild and near open nazi wallowing in an echo chamber of fellow loser freaks. People are also noticing the split with Grimes seems to have affected him. In particular getting more and more anti-trans after his ex started dating Chelsea Manning.
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Biplane posted:Lol at giving Elon Musk any credit for tesla's success. Well I guess maybe the money he spent to buy his way in was maybe used at some point to build a car. He's basically Iron Man if you think about it Tony Stark at least builds tech himself and has it actually function.
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Maxwell Lord posted:People are also noticing the split with Grimes seems to have affected him. In particular getting more and more anti-trans after his ex started dating Chelsea Manning. One of his kids also transitioned and used it to give him a big public "gently caress you."
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Ghost Leviathan posted:One of the things Tesla deserves genuine credit for is, basically, actually trying to get electric cars to take off, rather than the bedgrudging, deliberately terrible projects thus far to cement them as weird hippie poo poo that doesn't work for real people. They made them cool, cutting-edge and desirable over obsolete gas-guzzlers, and pushed them hard so it's possible to actually buy them. (Been stories of how if you go to a dealership and ask for an electric car they will do everything possible to stop you) Making a freely available plug standard seems like it'd be a key part of that, similar to how mobile phones and other electronics used to be a hellscape of different plugs until the industry was forced to settle on some standards. As if this is even a good thing. On a raw MPGe factor EVs certainly are "cleaner" but spending so many resources making EVs viable versus making private transport more expensive and spending those resources on public transport is a huge miss. It's the prime reason I've always disliked Tesla because it's sold as this way to help us fight climate change when it just further entrenches the core problems we have.
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