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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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gradenko_2000 posted:one of the fun things I learned about Dunkirk was that the Brits had to do it another two times over the course of being pursued down the coast of France Dunkirk II: Dunk Harder Dunk3rk
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Jul 17, 2023 14:56
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lobster shirt posted:hows the war going folks I told you mom its a special military operation! You never understand me! (slams bedroom door, starts playing marilyn manson on stereo)
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Jul 17, 2023 15:01
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Nix Panicus posted:Its not impossible, but its a lot harder to astroturf a national myth into being, especially over the course of a year or less. Also I think some of the more lasting national myths come from defeat, not victory. Dunkirk is a bittersweet miraculous retreat from Europe. The Blitz was about enduring a terror bombing because there was no way to stop it. Ukraine has had ample opportunity to amplify narratives of enduring loss into a national heroic mythology, but their propaganda is just incapable of admitting defeat or failure on any front. 'Russian warship go gently caress yourself' stuck because of its tone of defiance in the face of death. It was immediately undermined by narratives about how rusted and laughable and easily defeated the Russian navy is. How can you celebrate defiance against an inoffensive clown opponent? If anything the modern day national mythn of Ukriane is more rooted in the Great Famine than anything else, in part because it reinforces the idea that Fussians want to destroy Ukraine which is why everything goes back to that and why the West started screaming genocide at the very start of the war. Hell all of the modern Eastern European national myths are rooted in getting owned by the Soveits having the gall to lift them out of feudal relationships.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:05
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lobster shirt posted:hows the war going folks Love your AV.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:12
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The Soviet Union defeated fascism in Europe and they never forgave them for it
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Jul 17, 2023 15:12
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gradenko_2000 posted:one of the fun things I learned about Dunkirk was that the Brits had to do it another two times over the course of being pursued down the coast of France One of those times had been intentionally suppressed as a transport was sunk with great loss of life. The other the Canadian Army landed in France and almost immediately had to turn around, so that's downplayed as well.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:14
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spacetoaster posted:Love your AV. thank you...
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Jul 17, 2023 15:19
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Jel Shaker posted:blowing up the bridge is like in Independence Day where if just one plucky F16 can kill the mothership then the entire evil alien force just stops and dies Western, European and Russian liberals literally, unironically believe this, but with Putin.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:23
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Since I am dead inside and didn't grow up in a Christianity country, does anyone want to explain what's so special about the Arthurian grail quest? So what's deal of this grail?
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Jul 17, 2023 15:24
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stephenthinkpad posted:Since I am dead inside and didn't grow up in a Christianity country, does anyone want to explain what's so special about the Arthurian grail quest? Divine right to rule.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:25
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Im seeing a lot of takes about the 'psychological value' of blowing up the bridge. The last time the bridge was blown up was way worse! They didn't crumble then! I've also been baffled by the takes on the 'recon in force' tactic Ukraine is taking, where they send out a bunch of dismounted infantry to 'find' Russian fortifications via taking note of where they start getting exploded by artillery, and then try to fire back, as stressing Russian supplies and morale. How is marching your dudes directly into a woodchipper with no support supposed to intimidate the other side?
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Jul 17, 2023 15:27
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Endman posted:Haven't watched the video, but the MG42 always struck me as an odd weapon since Germany was always industrially stretched to breaking point, and the loving thing fires 1200 rounds per minute. I think the context of the mg42 is Germany being elbow deep in Russia in 1942. The mg42 was cheaper to produce than the 34 and had twice the rate of fire plus swappable barrels so the idea was that you could consolidate roles and reduce the number of dedicated machine gunners in a squad while having the same capability for sustained suppressing fire. It was probably scary as hell if you were charging up an alleyway in Leningrad but loses a lot of the advantage as fixed defenses in the western theater
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Jul 17, 2023 15:28
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stephenthinkpad posted:Since I am dead inside and didn't grow up in a Christianity country, does anyone want to explain what's so special about the Arthurian grail quest? its a neat story. I had fun reading it when I was a kid. It's the anglo equivalent of the ramayana/mahabharata. Mythic tales from long ago that somehow still have relevance in the modern world. One of the most famous anecdotes in pre 1991 india was our national broadcaster making a big budget epic TV series based off the mahabharata and it would be shown every sunday. Allegedly, trains would stop for an hour at stations because everyone on the train would get out and huddle around the TV to watch it. Its something that the current hyperspecific context consumption matrix we live in cannot provide.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:28
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stephenthinkpad posted:Since I am dead inside and didn't grow up in a Christianity country, does anyone want to explain what's so special about the Arthurian grail quest? The Arthur legend is probably adapted from prior celtic myths because it really has nothing to do with christianity and then they tacked on some bullshit about the grail later to pretend it was a christian story and legitimize monarchy.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:30
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everyone should read the faerie queene by edmund spenser. redcrosse knight ftw.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:33
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gradenko_2000 posted:maybe I should take this to the modern history thread, but jesus... How did their guerilla army expect to import weapons across the atlantic without a navy? A more important question is how did they expect to create a guerilla army out of landed nobility, but the self delusion is pretty obvious with that one.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:33
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either way it was a part of anglo culture and was constantly reinvented with new forms of mass media. Kind of like how the wider sinosphere loves Romance of The Three Kingdoms. Going from that to "Duh, why lancelot get XP if he don't finish the quest" within a generation is pretty dire.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:33
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Nix Panicus posted:Im seeing a lot of takes about the 'psychological value' of blowing up the bridge. The last time the bridge was blown up was way worse! They didn't crumble then! Yeah, its just coping. The damage on the bridge is less than the last time, its not seriously going to affect supply and its going to be fixed in a few months Ukraines recent tactics are causing foreign mercs to run away from the front and its causing ukraine to have to transport its own soldiers without weapons and with armed guards so they dont loving leave. Things are going great for ukraine, trust us
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Jul 17, 2023 15:34
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:I think the context of the mg42 is Germany being elbow deep in Russia in 1942. The mg42 was cheaper to produce than the 34 and had twice the rate of fire plus swappable barrels so the idea was that you could consolidate roles and reduce the number of dedicated machine gunners in a squad while having the same capability for sustained suppressing fire. I guess you mean Stalingrad, but yeah, the MG42 probably was an improvement, especially with its rate of fire, the issue was having enough ammo on hand. The Stg44 was more ify, it obviously could put out more fire than a Mauser 98k, but the Germans really weren't in the position to mass produce a specialized round and the gun itself had some significant issues (it was huge/weighted a ton, not great at full auto etc). Arguably, Hitler may have made the right call on holding it up as long as he did (I KNOW) just because the German MIC couldn't really handle it. Cao Ni Ma posted:Yeah, its just coping. The damage on the bridge is less than the last time, its not seriously going to affect supply and its going to be fixed in a few months Yeah, you can tell just the number of foreigners that it has decreased further as even the "hard core" types are starting to go back home (one way or another). I posted a video earlier of GOpro footage from the offensive, but another video showed they were put pretty much in an insane position, with squads huddling up in small groves of trees listening to Russian artillery (which of course is "completely inaccurate") getting a bead on them with no where to go and they are supposed to be going "on the offensive." Ardennes has issued a correction as of 15:40 on Jul 17, 2023 |
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Jul 17, 2023 15:35
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DancingShade posted:Personally I'm a great fan of the people who get all fired up and wish for nuclear armageddon because their chosen ogliarch is/isn't winning the fight to loot some resources somewhere, even though regardless of who actually wins they aren't personally going to receive any benefit from it whatsoever. Nuclear Armageddon is its own reward.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:37
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Ardennes posted:I guess you mean Stalingrad, but yeah, the MG42 probably was an improvement, especially with its rate of fire, the issue was having enough ammo on hand. The Stg44 was more ify, it obviously could put out more fire than a Mauser 98k, but the Germans really weren't in the position to mass produce a specialized round and the gun itself had some significant issues (it was huge/weighted a ton, not great at full auto etc). Arguably, Hitler may have made the right call on holding it up as long as he did (I KNOW I KNOW) just because the German MIC couldn't really handle it. The siege of Leningrad went from 1941-1944 The ammo wasn't really a concern because the idea was to replace two 600 rpm guns with one 1200rpm gun It's the same investment either way, in theory, anyway. This makes a lot of sense for urban combat but falls apart in open fields where you'd probably rather cover more area. Engorged Pedipalps has issued a correction as of 15:45 on Jul 17, 2023 |
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Jul 17, 2023 15:41
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:The siege of Leningrad went from 1941-1944 German forces never actually got into the city, they got stopped around where roughly where the border of the oblast is today.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:43
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Nix Panicus posted:How can you celebrate defiance against an inoffensive clown opponent? How can you feel happy about getting rid of a rat infestation? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 17, 2023 15:43
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Nix Panicus posted:Im seeing a lot of takes about the 'psychological value' of blowing up the bridge. The last time the bridge was blown up was way worse! They didn't crumble then! Because probing attacks and recce in force are being deliberately misused in a narrative to suggest that Ukrainian attacks are failing on purpose. That’s as short an explanation as I can write before my 11 o clock, but they worked out a lie that seems plausible at a glance, basically.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:43
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Rugz posted:How can you feel happy about getting rid of a rat infestation? problematic analogy...
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Nix Panicus posted:Im seeing a lot of takes about the 'psychological value' of blowing up the bridge. The last time the bridge was blown up was way worse! They didn't crumble then! With the power of lies, anything can be good.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:44
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Lostconfused posted:How did their guerilla army expect to import weapons across the atlantic without a navy? There was a belief that Britain would naturally side with the south out of a shared respect for culture and dependence on the South's cash crop. The British would supply the navy and the weapons. This belief persisted until after secession in 1860, even thought the British abolished slavery in its colonies in 1834. After the outbreak of the Civil War and demands from the confederates for war supplies in exchange for cotton, the British simply turned to Egypt and other colonies. The guerrilla army thing was because the southern aristocracy genuinely believed the poor whites of the south were loyal and would fight on after formal defeat to restore specifically *their* rule. The confederates were extremely dumb and completely isolated from reality.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:44
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Communist Thoughts posted:They are using human shields! Nothing to do but bomb the schools and hospitals sadly Americans know all schools and hospitals are actually secret terrorist training camps, and only have enemy combatants in them.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:45
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Ardennes posted:German forces never actually got into the city, they got stopped around where roughly where the border of the oblast is today. drat, showing my whole rear end
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Jul 17, 2023 15:46
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Rugz posted:How can you feel happy about getting rid of a rat infestation? lobster shirt posted:problematic analogy... yeeeeeeeeesh lmao
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Jul 17, 2023 15:47
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stephenthinkpad posted:Since I am dead inside and didn't grow up in a Christianity country, does anyone want to explain what's so special about the Arthurian grail quest? not much, what's grail with you?
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Jul 17, 2023 15:48
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Orange Devil posted:Thinking of a second book featuring our dashing Austro-Hungarian artillery officer where he, following his decision at the culmination of the first book to support the socialist revolution, fights heroic battles and has pages-long discussions and internal monologues about the function of the state and its productive forces. But all against a dark backdrop where he is oblivious that the forces of monarchy are part of the forces of reaction, with his ideological musings becoming less coherent over time. The importance of symbolism is a recurring motif throughout the book. Yet during the climax, with final victory within the revolutionary grasp, our now not so young artillery officer fails to fire on the armored train evacuating what is left of the royal family. The rest of his battery does not and the train is obliterated. Our officer is distraught and accuses his fellow revolutionaries of treason. His ideology has become fully incoherent and possibly reactionary at this point. He is summarily executed by firing squad on the final page, as the rest of the country is entering a new and better age. lmao adore this. only problem is how are you going to get a trilogy out of the arc unless you do a prequel?
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Jul 17, 2023 15:55
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Organ Fiend posted:Western, European and Russian liberals literally, unironically believe this, but with Putin.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:55
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Tankbuster posted:Its something that the current hyperspecific content consumption matrix we live in cannot provide. Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones. The endless deluge of lovely marvel movies.
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Jul 17, 2023 15:57
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stephenthinkpad posted:Since I am dead inside and didn't grow up in a Christianity country, does anyone want to explain what's so special about the Arthurian grail quest? First instapot in Europe
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Jul 17, 2023 15:58
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Lostconfused posted:It can still get close. Our era's Arthurian legend will probably be star wars tbh It has all the hallmarks of a good epic story including a bunch of expanded universe tack on stuff nobody likes or remembers In a hundred years it will be told in simplified form to help kids sleep at night
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Jul 17, 2023 16:06
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bedpan posted:lmao adore this. only problem is how are you going to get a trilogy out of the arc unless you do a prequel? Saved at the last moment by counter revolutionary forces led by the last scion of the royal family, a beautiful and charismatic woman who was away leading a think tank of the foremost minds in the nation. Book 3 is about reconciling the office and duties of the monarch with the personage of the monarch, and contrasts the growing pains of the ruling revolutionary council with the reactionary beliefs of hold out pockets of monarchists. Our dashing officer takes on leadership of a branch of the monarchist forces and forms a close personal bond with the young queen. The climax sees the officer overseeing a raid against the revolutionary council, and the ebb and flow of the battle is matched by the philosophical back and forth between the possibility of a future classless society and the vast historic forces conspiring to lead all revolutionary forces back to the divine rule of monarchs. Ultimately the artillery officer orders the final decisive strike, eliminating the revolutionary council with an ease and conviction he could not muster against the royals years earlier. The reactionaries take control and a new terror is unleashed. The artillery officer can only watch as millions are sent to the camps for their role in the uprising. His queen thanks him for his service, awards him a medal, and leaves for the castle, never to be seen again. The last chapter is the twice traitor officer sitting in the dark contemplating how it all went wrong and what, if anything, he believes.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:08
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Star Wars is probably closer to the American Ramayana than le mort darthur
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Jul 17, 2023 16:09
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King Arthur and Star Wars are both things I loved as a kid. I can't tell which I dislike more now, but I'm leaning towards Star Wars. Maybe because I haven't watched all the new gritty king arthur movies. And even if I did I forgot about that one where he's a roman legionary played by that guy from Shoot 'Em Up.
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Jul 17, 2023 16:11
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My understanding of the current situation is that Russia is the one on the attack on more fronts. And that Ukraine is only really pushing hard in the Bakhmut front at the moment.
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