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industrial is whatever makes people mad if you call it industrial
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Jul 18, 2023 19:42
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Bayham Badger posted:industrial is whatever makes people mad if you call it industrial Honestly probably the best definition of industrial I’ve ever seen
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Jul 18, 2023 19:52
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Bayham Badger posted:industrial is whatever makes people mad if you call it industrial 
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Jul 18, 2023 20:04
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Bayham Badger posted:industrial is whatever makes people mad if you call it industrial
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Jul 18, 2023 20:09
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I first heard songs off Demanufacture when I was 10 or 11 and it rewired my brain chemistry. I might have ended up a normal kid if not for that album. So when it comes to seeing posts about if it fits it's kind of funny to me because Fear Factory is how I ended up listening to bog standard Industrial stuff like NIN or Ministry. Though I guess for my part I was surprised to see Darkest Days on there, because I really don't think of Stabbing Westward in that context. So I guess in conclusion, Industrial is a land of contrasts.
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Jul 18, 2023 23:24
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I appreciated the Self Bias Resistor callout- I feel like that's one of the best songs on the album in terms of pure "we have this riff and we are treating it like the main melody of a dance song" thing that you get in industrial rock/metal. Helps that it slaps.
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Jul 18, 2023 23:37
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I feel like there were a lot of industrial tinged pop bands in the mid '90s but machines of loving grace is the only one I can put a name to
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Jul 19, 2023 00:13
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Shoehead posted:I first heard songs off Demanufacture when I was 10 or 11 and it rewired my brain chemistry. I might have ended up a normal kid if not for that album. So when it comes to seeing posts about if it fits it's kind of funny to me because Fear Factory is how I ended up listening to bog standard Industrial stuff like NIN or Ministry. I do ultimately think it fits, although I don’t think it’s just because of the Venn diagram overlap of the fans. I’m sure a lot of industrial fans would also enjoy SYL - City but that doesn’t mean I think it’s industrial at all. That drat album was everywhere though, I first heard some of those songs without realizing it because they were on the Carmageddon soundtrack The Voice of Labor posted:I feel like there were a lot of industrial tinged pop bands in the mid '90s but machines of loving grace is the only one I can put a name to The aforementioned Stabbing Westward was a notable one, as was Gravity Kills Machines of Loving Grace is far better than either
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Jul 19, 2023 02:53
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I'd toss God Lives Underwater in with those.
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Jul 19, 2023 03:17
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100% on God Lives Underwater Pop Will Eat Itself, maybe? Sister Machine Gun perhaps, although I put them in a different category since they were at least on WaxTrax. Burn is a decent album
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Jul 19, 2023 03:40
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throw sister machine gun in there and we have to start questioning my life with the thrill kill kult
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Jul 19, 2023 04:20
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lol v.a.s.t. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOZ6ptqcbUc
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Jul 19, 2023 04:22
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The Voice of Labor posted:I feel like there were a lot of industrial tinged pop bands in the mid '90s but machines of loving grace is the only one I can put a name to Apoptygma Berzerk? Helped start Futurepop then shifted towards Emo.
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Jul 19, 2023 07:19
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Bayham Badger posted:industrial is whatever makes people mad if you call it industrial 
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Jul 19, 2023 07:50
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Clearly Consequence of Sound is scraping this thread for hits. They followed up yesterdays decisive list with yet another Top Ten. This one is a top ten industrial tracks penned by the dude from 3TEETH. I still don’t listen to that band but not hating on his persona choices. https://consequence.net/2023/07/3teeth-alexis-mincolla-industrial-playlist/ hatelull fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Jul 19, 2023 13:06
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Lol, "Front Line Assembly – “Millennium” I feel like Tactical Neural Implant is probably a better “industrial record” from FLA, but this album and title track includes guitar samples from Pantera, Sepultura, and Metallica — and I know including it will piss off the electronic purist rivet heads so were going to include it, because … Bill Leeb." It's a fine list.
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Jul 19, 2023 13:15
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hatelull posted:Clearly Consequence of Sound is scraping this thread for hits. They followed up yesterdays decisive list with yet another Top Ten. This one is a top ten industrial tracks penned by the dude from 3TEETH. Yeah, that list makes sense coming from a guy in 3Teeth.
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Jul 19, 2023 13:21
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That's a good list. I agree that Reptile is by far the best NIN track.
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Jul 19, 2023 13:30
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Canada had Econoline Crush for industrial pop. They were fully influenced by stuff like Ministry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aU-ysNDDIg I never need to hear this one again, was on the radio on the hour for 5+ years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IgzeHKFDn8
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Jul 19, 2023 14:06
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hatelull posted:Clearly Consequence of Sound is scraping this thread for hits. They followed up yesterdays decisive list with yet another Top Ten. This one is a top ten industrial tracks penned by the dude from 3TEETH. I'm low key surprised by the Ministry track on here, because my take on 3TEETH was that they always felt to me like they were specifically trying to recreate Ministry's Filth Pig sound so would have expected something from that album. Also yeah totally the kind of top ten that makes sense for 3TEETH though otherwise.
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Jul 19, 2023 15:25
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teethgrinder posted:Canada had Econoline Crush for industrial pop. They were fully influenced by stuff like Ministry. Rhys Fulber produced their first full length and it still rips https://youtu.be/4gJGKqTanj8
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Jul 19, 2023 15:49
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teethgrinder posted:Canada had Econoline Crush for industrial pop. They were fully influenced by stuff like Ministry. I remembered Econoline Crush about 3 months ago and went back through their albums. I have no idea how it got on my radar way back when (I'm not Canadian). Maybe just some random pick on BMG. mennoknight posted:Rhys Fulber produced their first full length and it still rips Gonna have to agree here.
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Jul 19, 2023 15:56
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hatelull posted:Clearly Consequence of Sound is scraping this thread for hits. They followed up yesterdays decisive list with yet another Top Ten. This one is a top ten industrial tracks penned by the dude from 3TEETH. honestly good list, Golgotha Tenement Blues is such an underrated track on The Crow OST.
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Jul 19, 2023 16:35
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hatelull posted:I can't remember the exact track, but I'm pretty sure Al lifted a section of "Thieves" straight out of a Wire song. Yup. “Mr. Suit” from Pink Flag.
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Jul 20, 2023 04:48
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Kaddish posted:Lol, He's not wrong, the guitar samples suck so much poo poo. Hardwired is where it's at if you must have metal guitars.
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Jul 20, 2023 08:59
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Disagree, Millennium is a great album. Their second best after TNI.
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Jul 20, 2023 09:07
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thotsky posted:Disagree, Millennium is a great album. Their second best after TNA. I used to like Millennium a lot but have kind of grown tired of it. In the end I seem to have drifted over to liking the more chill and electronic FLA albums the most - Civilization is my number one FLA album, followed by TNI, AirMech, Echogenetic… FLA is a weird favorite band for me in that while I consider them one of my absolute favorites, they sure have a lot of albums I just do not care about at all or actively dislike. The first couple (Caustic Grip is where FLA starts for me), IED, Artificial Soldier, Epitaph, Wake Up The Coma…
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Jul 20, 2023 10:03
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Man, I'm probably going to be run out of the thread, but Implode is the best FLA album.
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Jul 20, 2023 10:06
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a_gelatinous_cube posted:Man, I'm probably going to be run out of the thread, but Implode is the best FLA album. Implode has Prophecy, which is the best FLA track, so it’s got that going for it. Solid record otherwise for me
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Jul 20, 2023 10:07
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Victim of a Criminal is the best FLA track. 
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Jul 20, 2023 10:55
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thotsky posted:Victim of a Criminal is the best FLA track. Not best for me, but it’s a classic. I used to blast that song so loud.
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Jul 20, 2023 12:12
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a_gelatinous_cube posted:Man, I'm probably going to be run out of the thread, but Implode is the best FLA album. A solid album, probably my number two after Hard Wired. It was the first FLA album I bought.
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Jul 20, 2023 12:36
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I hated Hard Wired when it came out. It grew on me quite a bit. Hard Wired could use a remaster. Doesn't sound great. TNI too, while we're at it. Edit - Evidently Hard Wired was remastered on vinyl with a distribution of 300 copies. lol welp. Wouldn't mind having that in my little collection of records. $112 on ebay! Kaddish fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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Jul 20, 2023 12:48
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Everything FLA released from Caustic Grip to Implode are all time great albums. And Decoder somehow manages to be better than all of those.
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Jul 20, 2023 13:07
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Hedenius posted:Everything FLA released from Caustic Grip to Implode are all time great albums. And Decoder somehow manages to be better than all of those. I'd argue up to Civilization. I like the Delerium leakage in that album. Artifical Soldier is sort of the beginning of the moden day FLA sound it seems.
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Jul 20, 2023 13:12
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Kaddish posted:I'd argue up to Civilization. I like the Delerium leakage in that album. Artifical Soldier is sort of the beginning of the moden day FLA sound it seems. ++ AS & IED are pretty tedious with all the lame chugging. Echogenetic had a lot of potential with the sound refresh but ultimately the songs weren’t that memorable. Wake Up the Coma was unexpectedly fun; I actually genuinely like it. I keep forgetting Mechanical Soul exists. It’s virtually devoid of anything memorable. The recent Noise Unit albums are much better so I still have some naive hope they can put out another decent release, however I have a bad feeling a lot of it was due to the late Jeremy Inkel who was taken much too soon 
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Jul 20, 2023 14:04
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Kaddish posted:I hated Hard Wired when it came out. It grew on me quite a bit. TNI got remastered last year! Took a while for my local record store to get it in, but glad to finally have it to go with my original Caustic Grip LP. FLA is a CD band after those two albums.
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Jul 20, 2023 19:24
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Absolutely NOT trying to turn shill for Consequence, but Al did the top ten list too. https://consequence.net/2023/07/al-jourgensen-essential-industrial-albums-crate-digging/ His picks absolutely align with what Ministry was and how they progressed through their seminal years. They also dropped a Top 50 Industrial Songs Of All Time! (or at least up until the 20th of July in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty-three). https://consequence.net/2023/07/best-industrial-songs-list/ It mostly reads like a greatest hits compilation Rhino records might put out as a tacky box set. Some of the goofy outliers that showed up in the Artists lists, and I'm sure the Filter song at number 8 is going to roll some eyes here. The number one song is from 1989.
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Jul 20, 2023 20:12
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Al’s list is pretty good. That other list… 
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At least the number two is good. Head like a hole?! Al's list is good, unsurprisingly.
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