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Mercury_Storm posted:Master (Mark) Levin easily takes the cake though. someone needs to take him talking about his bunker and splice that into the Dirtfoot episode.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:It's a bit obscure, but American Family Radio host E.W. Jackson has announced that he's launching a presidential campaign. He's not even the biggest host on the network, and he has a snowball's chance in hell of ever even getting on the debate stage, let alone the nomination. His announcement video was just a string of Christian Nationalist grievances with a little "and the liberals are the REAL racists" sprinkled throughout. His campaign's Twitter account currently has 5000 followers. This ain't happening, but I have the feeling that the America Family Association is gonna get a noticable cash injection soon. I think I half listened to some NPR Iowa stuff about him, he 's said that he is thankful for Donnie and killing abortion, but now they need not Donnie. gently caress him, and gently caress american christianity.
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also regressives are whiny bitches even when they get amazing historical Wins.
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PhazonLink posted:I think I half listened to some NPR Iowa stuff about him, he 's said that he is thankful for Donnie and killing abortion, but now they need not Donnie. That tracks, because American Family Radio's current endorsement of Donald Trump is a big fat "uhhhhhhh...???" Like they're undoubtedly going to fall back into MAGA lockstep as soon as he confirms the nomination, but currently they just can't reconcile the fact that he's the reason why abortion is banned in a third of the states now, but also he says swears and doesn't hate LGBTQ people as much with the same fervor that they do. I think they've sorta noticed that his first term was a fluke and they're still trying to keep the hope of President Pat Robertson alive.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:they're still trying to keep the hope of President Pat Robertson alive. Unlike actual Pat Robertson. Praise be.
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Angry_Ed posted:someone needs to take him talking about his bunker and splice that into the Dirtfoot episode. I literally listen to him for the express purposes of imagining it’s really wingnut shake. Also fuckin lol does he actually honest and truly have a bunker? I thought that was just some stupid bullshit like Hannity threatening to come to your city and sing you a country song, but oops.
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Honestly I find it funny that out of all the crazy right-wing family I have, the only one of the right-wing media talking heads I ever hear talked about with any actual affection is Bill O'Reilly and he's loving GONE. I even think that their like of that sack of poo poo is because he has some decent historical books out and is a decent writer. I hate the gently caress but I have been so happy to see the ultra-rich super yuppie side of my family just completely pivot into anger at the republican party and a complete desire to avoid any news or any politician. I'll take them being ignorant over them screaming at family dinners. They just really miss Reagan/HW/W at this point.
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Discendo Vox posted:iirc there was a fallout with Trump leading up to the 2020 election, and Drudge sold the site at some point. Drudge is still up. He just refused to bend the knee to Trump and thought he was a terrible huckster and covered him that way.
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just half listened to another NPR bit. apparent all the Proud Boy-like groups are called "active clubs"
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PhazonLink posted:just half listened to another NPR bit. well they are actively clubbing counter protesters
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Michigan attorney general charges [16] 'false electors' over efforts to overturn the 2020 election https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/michigan-attorney-general-charges-false-electors-efforts-overturn-2020-rcna94838
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This kind of thing comes up from time to time to illustrate the notion that the left is more 'intolerant' than the right. I really question the methodology because I find people on the right to be far more incurious and hostile to differing opinions. https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1681244522758516738?t=UmQzlpIyL5R72jKTayFXeA&s=19
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quote:For example, the researchers found that voters of left-wing and green parties dislike people with different views more than people who tend to place themselves on the right-wing political spectrum, especially on issues such as climate change and dealing with pandemics. Only in Germany are AfD supporters just ahead of Green voters in the degree of polarisation. However, the differences are not statistically significant - left and right are roughly on par. Yup, exactly what I expected from the FAZ. lmao.
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Panfilo posted:This kind of thing comes up from time to time to illustrate the notion that the left is more 'intolerant' than the right. I really question the methodology because I find people on the right to be far more incurious and hostile to differing opinions. The overwhelming majority of right-wingers I've met have put not a single thought into what it is they actually believe, it's just whatever catchphrase right-wing media is putting out at the time. My political beliefs are shaped by my morals, and I find conservative beliefs to be morally repulsive, so yes I would say it is accurate that I am intolerant of conservatives. Reminds me of those articles during the Trump administration about conservative men complaining that liberal women won't date them. "If I'm willing to put aside our political differences, why won't you?". Antigravitas posted:Yup, exactly what I expected from the FAZ. lmao but not surprised its just a clickbait headline
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JFC. Building your whole article around a dishonest appraisal of a ‘not statistically significant’ difference. There’s freedom of expression and then there’s just lying and this is lying.
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Mustang posted:Reminds me of those articles during the Trump administration about conservative men complaining that liberal women won't date them. "If I'm willing to put aside our political differences, why won't you?". My liberal dad kind has an inverted microcosm of that, he’s into sailing and he has to be willing to shoot the poo poo with guys who are Trumpy as poo poo because that’s who’s on the dock. I think another part of it is that while there is that relatively small (and politically over-represented) subset of Republicans who think the evil lib commies are out to make your kids trans and molest them, most self-identified conservatives look at liberals as stupid or naive, which places the liberals “beneath” them, and so they don’t feel too much personal anger towards the average lib-on-the-street compared to what we feel about an openly greedy or bigoted person. E: but I guess the study isn’t any good anyway?
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The study may very well be good, but I never trust reactionary propaganda rags to cover any academic work honestly. Here's the press release of TU Dresden https://tu-dresden.de/tu-dresden/ne...set_language=en e: I had a glance at it, and yeah, the FAZ framing of the study is maximally dishonest. (as expected) I don't have the time to critique the methodology. Antigravitas fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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Conservatives also compartmentalize in a severe way, where they’ll say insane, hateful poo poo at family gatherings and then be completely shocked and offended that they aren’t invited back. It’s like they expect everyone to ignore or overlook their behavior because they’re family and so would expect to do the same. Like they think their kids are communist agents destroying America but they still want them to come to Thanksgiving and treat them normally. Like, I have friends who have cut off contact with their parents because the parents got into qanon stuff and say bigoted things and accuse my friends of being part of a conspiracy to kill children. The parents are confused and hurt that my friends don’t want be anywhere near them or allow that kind of talk near their own kids. But the parents must logically believe that their own children are dangerous, but they don’t behave that way and expect everyone to overlook those beliefs.
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I agree conservatives heavily compartmentalize their beliefs. Remember these are the same people that say democrats are satanic pedophiles yet they are willing to be friends/date people like that? They think they are naive cowards that can't debate but they want to be associated with people like that? With conservative men there's definitely a desire to have a target of condescension- they don't think their own beliefs are going to be at stake in the relationship, only the woman who they intend to "educate". This prolific leftist Twitter lady mentioned dating a few conservative guys when she was younger (back before she had fully figured out her own convictions) and she mentioned the patten with all the conservative guys were utterly devoid of empathy. Interestingly, the exception to this seems to be conservative women, who seem much less likely to date a leftist guy than conservative men dating leftist women. This might be because they're more likely to want marriage/kids earlier than a typical leftist guy is ready for and they aren't going to waste time on a person who flat out doesn't want children.
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Bear in mind this also reflects on disclose.tv as the mediator.
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Panfilo posted:Interestingly, the exception to this seems to be conservative women, who seem much less likely to date a leftist guy than conservative men dating leftist women. This might be because they're more likely to want marriage/kids earlier than a typical leftist guy is ready for and they aren't going to waste time on a person who flat out doesn't want children. Or it's because there's way more conservative men than women so they can have their pick of the litter so to speak.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Or it's because there's way more conservative men than women so they can have their pick of the litter so to speak. Is there though? After all, a majority of white women voted for Trump in 2016.
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Panfilo posted:Is there though? After all, a majority of white women voted for Trump in 2016. And a larger majority of white men voted for Trump in 2016. Your point?
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My point is that I don't believe there's a significant gender imbalance to drive conservative men to date outside their own ideology.
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Panfilo posted:My point is that I don't believe there's a significant gender imbalance to drive conservative men to date outside their own ideology. I think it depends heavily on your location as well.
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I always love the reactionary response that occurs when a conservative gets called out. - My brother in law wanted to buy Paula Dean stuff when she was called out for using black people in a way to celebrate antebellum south. - People started buying tickets for Confederate Railroad when people called them out for using the confederate flag. - Morgan Wallen started selling more records when he was called out for using the n-word and generally being racist. - And now, I see more people sharing Jason Aldean’s sundown town song, “Try that in a Small Town” when I have never witnessed his videos being shared before. It is like a “defend a racist” signal goes out and people run to express their support.
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Panfilo posted:My point is that I don't believe there's a significant gender imbalance to drive conservative men to date outside their own ideology. Are you kidding? There are plenty of centrist/liberal women over the last eight years who have discovered that their husbands were actually unhinged reactionaries when it comes to politics and was for the most part hiding behind being "non-political" or "both sides are bad." I don't think most conservative men give a poo poo about their wives' political beliefs outside of wanting them to shut up about them. There are lots of reactionary right wing women out there too, but there are definitely plenty of political odd couples out there. Re the percentage of white women voting for Trump, conservatives aren't only married to white women, nor are non-white women incapable of being conservative.
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Panfilo posted:My point is that I don't believe there's a significant gender imbalance to drive conservative men to date outside their own ideology. In the dating world, especially online dating, there absolutely is a massive gender imbalance. Tinder is like 70%/30% men/women, and I suspect that skews even more for conservatives.
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One of my friends is in a one of those politicaly odd marriages. He's a progressive atheist and he's married to a conservative Christian that's very close to her MAGA family. Drives him nuts being surrounded by these people but apparently loves his wife nonetheless. Personally I could never be in a relationship with such a huge gulf in values, or the fact that your partner will always side with their MAGA family over you.
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So would you agree that women are more ideologically particular in either direction compared to men? I mean it makes sense on the progressive end of things, but on the conservative end of things I'm unsure if they are as particular about the convictions of a male partner. If a far right single woman is in a community surrounded by what her cohort consider "soy boys" will she compromise on her beliefs or rather remain single?
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Panfilo posted:So would you agree that women are more ideologically particular in either direction compared to men? I mean it makes sense on the progressive end of things, but on the conservative end of things I'm unsure if they are as particular about the convictions of a male partner. If a far right single woman is in a community surrounded by what her cohort consider "soy boys" will she compromise on her beliefs or rather remain single? Possibly yeah? I'm certainly seeing an uptick in women who are speaking up about not wanting to partner with men who don't view them as human beings with agency and inner lives of their own. Just on Twitter and some acquaintances though, so it's my observational impressions that aren't backed up by any data that I'm aware of.
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Neo_Crimson posted:In the dating world, especially online dating, there absolutely is a massive gender imbalance. Tinder is like 70%/30% men/women, and I suspect that skews even more for conservatives. I think there's going to be a selection bias at play here. Men are probably more likely to date online (similar to how they are more likely to seek out women that are foreign or incarcerated) than vice versa. Conservative women are probably more likely to pair off at a younger age and stay with their partner compared to conservative men. I know there are "conservative dating websites" (the ads for them are hilarious) but there's dating websites for tons of niche groups as well. If this was such a big issue i would have figured there would be more think pieces about it. I think another problem is the issue of honesty (which loops back to self selection). A progressive person is more likely to answer honestly in terms of topics like their mental health, satisfaction in partners, and personal standards. Conservatives on the other hand seem very fixated on aesthetics and "fake it till you make it" so they're not going to admit to something that might make them look inferior by association. I think they are more likely to hide being unhappy if admitting that dissatisfaction goes against their ideology.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Conservatives also compartmentalize in a severe way, where they’ll say insane, hateful poo poo at family gatherings and then be completely shocked and offended that they aren’t invited back. It’s like they expect everyone to ignore or overlook their behavior because they’re family and so would expect to do the same. Like they think their kids are communist agents destroying America but they still want them to come to Thanksgiving and treat them normally. Yeah I'm pretty much entirely done with my father's side of the family because of this poo poo There was a thread to discuss the growing trend of conservatives alienating their families and friends but it got locked
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Panfilo posted:This kind of thing comes up from time to time to illustrate the notion that the left is more 'intolerant' than the right. I really question the methodology because I find people on the right to be far more incurious and hostile to differing opinions. Why won't you tolerate my fascism and racism? Free speech gives me the right to say the N and F word but cancel culture is out of hand. They say as they steamroll Dixie Chicks CD's, blackball Colin Kaepernick out of a job and make us all stand for the flag. If I were to really dive into it, I'd posit that "cancel culture" has hit left leaning folks harder than people like Rob Schneider or Rosanne Barr. In fact, back when Roseanne "disrespected" the national anthem by not being a singer, she was social pariah #1. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1682213409813839872 Alex Jones seems to like him, but he's probably very familiar with that bus
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