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DeathChicken posted:I could have sworn they figured out awhile ago it was a couple of Crips (who later got themselves killed in unrelated dumbfuckery) Orlando Anderson? There was a popular theory that he was the one, but he was never charged for it and they never had any evidence. And, as you said, he got killed a few years later in a gang shootout.
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Discendo Vox posted:It's not as simple as it being a right-wing scam, it's more that the Utah senators (and investment groups that are proxies for the LDS) were major advocates and winners when the dietary supplement law, DSHEA, first passed. There's left and right entities and constituencies for the market, which is part of why it's stuck around. Not really a shock considering that Utah (I think) is the #1 US state for people getting wrapped up in mutli level marketing. AMway and Herbalife and poo poo sell a lot of miracle supplements and super vitamins.
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BiggerBoat posted:Not really a shock considering that Utah (I think) is the #1 US state for people getting wrapped up in mutli level marketing. AMway and Herbalife and poo poo sell a lot of miracle supplements and super vitamins. Yes, Amway and Herbalife are a couple of the biggest long-term names in supplements; supplements are a great synergy point for MLM, to no one's surprise. I don't believe either company is currently held by an LDS proxy or run out of Utah; one of them (Herbalife iirc) is as active and controlled in China as it is in the US. A lot of the LDS money comes through multiple levels of semi-obscured holding companies (one of the real big ones is HGGC), and there's no one structure visibly controlling the whole mess to my knowledge. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Tom Harkin (D-IA) was also one of the co-sponsors of the original bill that banned the FDA from regulating vitamins and supplements. He was a good progressive on almost every other issue (single-payer, prescription drugs, taxes), but went 20+ years defending vitamins/supplements from FDA regulation until his retirement. Iowa isn't even a big supplement manufacturing state and he teamed up with Orin Hatch multiple times in the early 90's and 2000's to prevent stricter regulation for vitamins and supplements.
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Nice ad. Thanks MTG! https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1681424737384435713?t=lbMBWDf6WDaZE9ceQqRRNA&s=19
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Charlz Guybon posted:Nice ad. Thanks MTG! I cannot imagine being the sort of person who hears these things and thinks they're bad.
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Yes, I would like a 16 point swing next year https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1681489429075226630
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Are there any actual resources that I could use to determine if my protein powder contains any actual protein?
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Farchanter posted:I cannot imagine being the sort of person who hears these things and thinks they're bad. It's not that they are bad, it's that the "wrong people" are also benefiting from these
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Rand Brittain posted:Are there any actual resources that I could use to determine if my protein powder contains any actual protein? Protein powders usually contain protein; the risk is that they may not contain ingredients in the amounts listed on the label, or may be contaminated with microbes, heavy metals or drug ingredients. The rule of thumb to avoid a lot of problems with dietary supplements is to buy them from the really big companies that are going to actually follow regulatory requirements, including generic store brands where applicable. Companies with products inspected by the giant third party certifiers, USP or NSF, are unlikely to have severe issues (though this doesn't mean they're effective at whatever they claim- the deepest issue with dietary supplements is that most of them don't do jack). Another good rule of thumb is to avoid products making anything like a drug claim, or promising sudden or dramatic effects. ofc none of this is a guarantee; at root, it's worth evaluating if you need to consume a dietary supplement- and if you have a physician, you should discuss all supplements you use with them. Although it's more enforced and regulated in the US than elsewhere, dietary supplements still aren't well-regulated here, and it's the root of a lot of problems. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Protein powder shoulder really be regulated as a food, not a supplement
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Farchanter posted:I cannot imagine being the sort of person who hears these things and thinks they're bad. It's easy enough, just assume that everything the government does is bad that even the best intentions backfire horribly (doubly so when it's Joe Biden in charge) and therefore he's absolutely ruining all those things that she listed. Just imagine if Trump announced a sweeping program to reform education, healthcare, rural poverty, and climate policy. Would your first reaction be "hell yeah"? Or would it be "god, how the hell is that dumb, evil rear end in a top hat gonna gently caress everything up?"
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Rand Brittain posted:Are there any actual resources that I could use to determine if my protein powder contains any actual protein? You could buy plain whey powder I guess, and flavour it yourself?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Protein powder shoulder really be regulated as a food, not a supplement Technically dietary supplements are a subcategory of foods under the law. The distinction is basically that the product is not being consumed as food; it's being consumed to supplement the diet. This works the same as any other product regulated by FDA. Some protein powders are labeled as conventional foods; the same issues tend to apply (and claiming that the protein powder isn't supplementing your diet is questionable). Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Main Paineframe posted:It's easy enough, just assume that everything the government does is bad that even the best intentions backfire horribly (doubly so when it's Joe Biden in charge) and therefore he's absolutely ruining all those things that she listed. It'd be 'literally just another say when he says a bunch of poo poo to get attention and then gets distracted by a passing butterfly' but I get your point. Then again the Space Force thing went through.
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Main Paineframe posted:Just imagine if Trump announced a sweeping program to reform education, healthcare, rural poverty, and climate policy. Would your first reaction be "hell yeah"? Or would it be "god, how the hell is that dumb, evil rear end in a top hat gonna gently caress everything up?" I think it's more that she's name dropping well regarded Presidents FDR and LBJ. The public generally thinks both of them are good on domestic stuff.
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A 16-year-old has died at a Mississippi poultry processing plant, county coroner says https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/us/mississippi-chicken-processing-plant-16-year-old-death/index.html deoju fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Bad news from Alabama. Good news from New York. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/07/alabama-republicans-supreme-court-voting-rights-dare.html quote:Alabama Republicans Are Daring the Supreme Court to Uphold Its Own Voting Rights Ruling https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/07/2024-election-new-york-redistricting-congress-speaker.html quote:Did a New York Court Just Hand Democrats Control of Congress in 2024?
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BiggerBoat posted:Not really a shock considering that Utah (I think) is the #1 US state for people getting wrapped up in mutli level marketing. AMway and Herbalife and poo poo sell a lot of miracle supplements and super vitamins. If you see any smoothie places in an odd spot with "Nutrition" in the title it's almost certainly an Herbalife front. They also usually don't have prices listed (to get around needing a license) and sell a "one-day membership" that coincidentally comes with a free drink. Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Bellmaker posted:They also usually don't have prices listed (to get around needing a license) and sell a "one-day membership" that coincidentally comes with a free drink. This is exactly the approach I'm going to use for my combination microbrewery taphouse/porno theater
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Charlz Guybon posted:Nice ad. Thanks MTG! Ads like this are fun, but I feel like they never go the next step and say "every time a republican says they care about you they are lying, look at what they think is bad"
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Gyges posted:I think it's more that she's name dropping well regarded Presidents FDR and LBJ. The public generally thinks both of them are good on domestic stuff. That's just an example of how the right-wing media has created an alternate universe for far-right voters to live in. Right-wing intellectuals and talking heads have long been pushing a narrative that the New Deal was actually a disastrous policy program that only worsened the economy and nearly destroyed the country, and far-right media has propagated those theories so widely that they can expect their audience to be believers. Same goes for LBJ, although less so because he never really had the same overwhelming popularity that FDR did. FDR might be generally popular overall, but the people who watch OANN and other right-wing outlets all day are regularly hearing from the people who wrote books like New Deal or Raw Deal?: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America or FDR's Folly: How Roosevelt and His New Deal Prolonged the Great Depression. That's MTG's audience. That's part of why the ideological split in media has created such a deep ideological split in Americans - it has increasingly siloed people into an alternate universe where all the good things were bad and disastrous and nearly destroyed America, and all the bad things were great and successful policies that were sabotaged or distorted by evil leftists to prevent them from having full effect. When she talks about Biden emulating FDR, she's talking to an audience who's used to articles like this: https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/SB10001424052702304024604575173632046893848 quote:Did FDR End the Depression? It's got a lot of holes and omissions there in support of an extremely cherrypicked and skewed argument, but it's not like anyone's debunking poo poo like this in TruthSocial or Fw:Fw:Fw:Fw: emails in boomers' inboxes.
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I think its notable that Ronald Reagan used to go on and on about how FDR was his favorite president. I think now that the cohort of Reagan democrats who had a lived memory of the New Deal era who liked FDR but had become disillusioned with the democrats are dying off, the double game of "oh FDR was good but his dastardly advisors like Harry Hopkins sold us out to the soviets" is no longer necessary.
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CIP's run a straightforward oppo dump on RFK Jr: https://congressionalintegrity.org/wp-content/uploads/RFK-Jr_-Conspiracy-Theorist-Extremist-Republican-Stooge.pdf At a glance it looks like a summary of his well-known activities for a press audience based on past coverage, no real surprises. He's killed a lot of people.
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Discendo Vox posted:CIP's run a straightforward oppo dump on RFK Jr: Please expand on what you're using to define as responsibility for the deaths of people because I'm sure we can then apply that standard to other candidates
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There is a bit more information about the American soldier that crossed the border into North Korea. Looks like it may be an ill-considered defection, the guy had been causing trouble in South Korea and was being sent back to the US to be drummed out of the army.BBC posted:At the time he was being escorted back to the US to face disciplinary action. BBC posted:PV2 King has been in the Army since January 2021. He is a cavalry scout - a reconnaissance specialist - originally assigned to an element of the army's 1st Armoured Division on a rotation with the US military in South Korea.
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Discendo Vox posted:CIP's run a straightforward oppo dump on RFK Jr: I've never heard of this group before, and the 990s listed on its website offer scant information, including who's funding it. How did you come across it? I don't doubt that he's a stooge on behalf of the GOP but some of the language used throughout the report is sort of specious in its allegations. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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Rebel Blob posted:There is a bit more information about the American soldier that crossed the border into North Korea. Looks like it may be an ill-considered defection, the guy had been causing trouble in South Korea and was being sent back to the US to be drummed out of the army. Facing a dishonorable discharge and living life in the US after the fact is pretty grim. I dunno if I’d be willing to take the chance but guess the dude just rolled the dice on whether life in North Korea would be better.
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Farchanter posted:I cannot imagine being the sort of person who hears these things and thinks they're bad. MTG is similar to trump in that she was born into wealth, never worked a day in her life, is not very intelligent or well educated, is easily diagnosable and has always been insulated from potential consequences for her thoughts/actions. And by some cruel twist of fate she came around when her brand of insane conspiracy theory racism has a place in national politics. She is not interacting with reality in a way that you or I would recognize. Fortunately I think she’s starting to crack.
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Judgy Fucker posted:Facing a dishonorable discharge and living life in the US after the fact is pretty grim. I dunno if I’d be willing to take the chance but guess the dude just rolled the dice on whether life in North Korea would be better. He was not gonna get dishonorably discharged. He could have still likely gotten an honorable discharge, general discharge, or other than honorable. With enough time, he might be able to upgrade the last two into the first retroactively. Dishonorable discharge won’t hit you for kicking a Korean cop car or punching a local. It would be from killing a Korean cop in an aggravated manner and beating their child up afterwards.
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Wouldn't this sort of behavior have warranted a special court martial and a big chicken dinner? I simply don't understand it.Vahakyla posted:Dishonorable discharge won’t hit you for kicking a Korean cop car or punching a local. It would be from killing a Korean cop in an aggravated manner and beating their child up afterwards. To add, a dishonorable discharge requires a general court martial and typically some jail time in a military brig.
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It seems like he either panicked or is extremely dumb. I'm not sure how the gamble of "get disciplined in the army/maybe get sent home and kicked out" vs. "try your luck in North Korean detention" ever results in the latter being the obvious choice.
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Trump stole some antiquities from Israel and holed them up in Mar'a'Lago. :trump: It's a bit too on-the-nose for that conman. Treasures lent by Israel for White House event ‘stranded at Mar-a-Lago’ quote:Ancient artefacts sent from Israel to the US four years ago on a short-term basis and intended for display at a White House event have ended up at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, according to a report.
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Vahakyla posted:He was not gonna get dishonorably discharged. Thanks for the clarification, and also lmao at the high standards to which our military holds its members. Definitely not another reason to chafe at the bloated budget for our war machine.
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Why are there third and fourth options besides "honorable" and "not honorable"
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haveblue posted:Why are there third and fourth options besides "honorable" and "not honorable" One of them is basically "misdemeanor vs felony" in severity and the other is if you are a fuckup, but it isn't entirely your fault.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It seems like he either panicked or is extremely dumb. I'm not sure how the gamble of "get disciplined in the army/maybe get sent home and kicked out" vs. "try your luck in North Korean detention" ever results in the latter being the obvious choice. Junior officers and enlisted can usually be counted on to make the stupidest decision at any given opportunity. Sadly this does not improve as they rise in the ranks, they just get better at covering it up.
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Judgy Fucker posted:Thanks for the clarification, and also lmao at the high standards to which our military holds its members. Definitely not another reason to chafe at the bloated budget for our war machine. I personally think that there are many ways people can be incompatible with the military and be huge pains in the rear end of every leader they are under, and that we still should not gently caress their lives up. Shipping their rear end home and letting them keep educational benefits actually ends up better for everybody involved. Perhaps the rest of the society in the US could be more lenient and soft like the military system ends up being. I’ve personally interacted with soldiers who were huge fuckups, attacked an italian cop after stealing a car, and everybody was happy they were loving gone. Yet, after they made it back to the US they used their education benefits and got a decent job and live a happy life and pay taxes. That’s not some vindication to their shittiness, but it’s a way to realize that people often do better when you don’t squeeze the screw on them.
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haveblue posted:Why are there third and fourth options besides "honorable" and "not honorable" There's a thing called entry level separation that's for people who end up getting out before they finish their basic training, with various codes that can indicate whether or not they could potentially re-enlist.
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here is my civilian understanding of discharges honorable: the best kind and also most common. you did a good job. general: you did not do a good job but didnt break any major rules other than honorable: you did something bad but not bad enough for a court martial bad conduct: you did something very bad and might go to army jail dishonorable: you did somethign extremely bad and almost certainly are going to army jail and then theres like medical and stuff.
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