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swickles posted:The problem is that IP has to be protected, otherwise they lose the trademark to everyone. It might be by state though where state and public schools can use their logos in good faith without a licensing agreement. If I have time later this morning I will research it a little more. They may just work out zero cost licensing deals with each high school. Maybe they give a blanket license to high schools to use their likeness?
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swickles posted:The problem is that IP has to be protected, otherwise they lose the trademark to everyone. It might be by state though where state and public schools can use their logos in good faith without a licensing agreement. If I have time later this morning I will research it a little more. I do recall that the NFL in particular defends their marks by going after any use that isn't a high school. Apparently there's some logic behind it that if you're pursuing a large enough number of trademark defenses, then you don't really have to take your time to hit all of them. Colleges are far more aggressive. I came across this while digging around: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/27/sports/football/27logos.html quote:In August, Florida State sent a cease-and-desist letter to Southeast High School in Bradenton, Fla., regarding its Seminoles logo. Southeast argued that it had used the mark for 30 years without incident, and its colors are orange and blue - Florida’s colors - unlike Florida State’s garnet and gold. I've also discovered that some, presumably insane, human being decided to document all of the Pennsylvania high school helmets: https://www.pahelmetproject.com/index.php In a cursory search, I've found that southeastern PA high schools are more likely to use an NFL team logo than the rest of the state. And that there are some amazing names out there.
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It’s kind of wild Tulane and Fritz coming to a 7 year agreement seemingly wasn’t mentioned/covered anywhere beyond Tulane’s webpage.
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The rival HS in my hometown was using the Az Cardinals logo. IIRC Az sent a cease and desist and then immediately after a licensing offer of $1/year or some other pittance that allowed the school to use the logo legally. My HS had not one but two original logos. The first looked like a parrot, but the second and current is pretty cool. They ruined it with an absolutely atrocious alma mater (it mentions "die" something like 8 times), as well as straight copying Michigan's fight song. The rival school has an original fight song that's one of the best I've heard (jazz-influenced from the 1920's) and I was always so jealous.
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Sash! posted:I've also discovered that some, presumably insane, human being decided to document all of the Pennsylvania high school helmets: https://www.pahelmetproject.com/index.php In a cursory search, I've found that southeastern PA high schools are more likely to use an NFL team logo than the rest of the state. And that there are some amazing names out there. I can't remember what high school my dad went to, but there's a non-zero possibility he was a Millionaire
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The school in my hometown is very much We Have Michigan at Home. They're the Wolves and wear gold instead of maize but the uniform is just Michigan's. No trademark on the winged helmet though and since most people in the area are UM fans as is, it's more of an homage than a ripoff.
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Spacebump posted:It’s kind of wild Tulane and Fritz coming to a 7 year agreement seemingly wasn’t mentioned/covered anywhere beyond Tulane’s webpage. All sportswriters have been replaced by ChatGPT
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PostNouveau posted:All sportswriters have been replaced by ChatGPT Thank God
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Komet posted:How many copyright violations can you spot in the WV high school logos? https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...mibextid=Nif5oz oh hey my high school and our main rivals are on there. fwiw the 'W' in the coalfields grouping is Wyoming county West, and they were in a protracted legal battle with Wisconsin over its usage for several years in the mid 2000's. I think they reached a settlement of some kind?
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My high school (Gatlinburg-Pittman) allegedly received surplus uniforms from Pittsburg University via Johnny Majors in the early 70s. Pitt recently switched back to something similar so I've enjoyed watching them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDg8MMUH-0A new season of Untold features "Johnny Football" about Manziel and "Swamp Kings" about the Tebow/Urbz era Gators
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kayakyakr posted:as well as straight copying Michigan's fight song.
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Incoherence posted:A lot of junior highs and high schools just buy the sheet music to a college's fight song and maybe change the words, though. My junior high school used Northwestern's; my high school had an original fight song but it wasn't particularly unique-sounding. Yeah, in middle school we went to a high school game to play alongside their band and the sheet music of the fight song we were handed was literally titled “Hail Purdue.”
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Jul 18, 2023 21:20
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My high school used Notre Dame's fight song with Texas A&M's colors A combination if there ever was
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dirty shrimp money posted:My high school used Notre Dame's fight song with Texas A&M's colors lmao. bfnd.
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Incoherence posted:A lot of junior highs and high schools just buy the sheet music to a college's fight song and maybe change the words, though. My junior high school used Northwestern's; my high school had an original fight song but it wasn't particularly unique-sounding. Yeah, our's was USC's so I played a LOT of 'Fight On' and 'Tribute to Troy'
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Incoherence posted:A lot of junior highs and high schools just buy the sheet music to a college's fight song and maybe change the words, though. My junior high school used Northwestern's; my high school had an original fight song but it wasn't particularly unique-sounding. The high school I mainly cover had several alums from Duke in the administration in the 1920s, which influenced everything, including the fight song. Notre Dame and Michigan fight songs get used a ton in my area. Another uses the intro from the instrumental The Horse.
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Sash! posted:I've also discovered that some, presumably insane, human being decided to document all of the Pennsylvania high school helmets: https://www.pahelmetproject.com/index.php In a cursory search, I've found that southeastern PA high schools are more likely to use an NFL team logo than the rest of the state. And that there are some amazing names out there. I've been messing around on here for the past hour. Thanks for posting.
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I particularly like the team I'm calling the Lazy Eagles They're not even called the Eagles or anything bird!
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Cthulu Carl posted:Also the fact that no one is going to confuse the Badgers with a high school team who was so lovely the majority of the home crowd was only there to see the marching band. This is literally what Wisconsin was before Barry showed up.
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Sash! posted:I particularly like the team I'm calling the Lazy Eagles They even share their name with a different team that has a famous design of that nature and ripped off the bird one!
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Rectal Placenta posted:This is literally what Wisconsin was before Barry showed up. This was right at the end of Barry's reign as actual coach, so I'm not surprised they didn't want to remind people that they weren't so different from a suburban high school
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Henchman of Santa posted:They even share their name with a different team that has a famous design of that nature and ripped off the bird one! Completely ridiculous!
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Always weird seeing a high school with the jayhawk logo on the uniform.
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Wiltsghost posted:Always weird seeing a high school with the jayhawk logo on the uniform. FSU vs KU looking fly
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LeeMajors posted:FSU vs KU looking fly "Spear with Feather" has to be, like, the #3 most knocked off one. I have a Vidalia (GA) Indians booster hat with the spear and they even use the FSU colors. Lawyers must have found them because they don't use the spear any more.
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The Pac-12 media rights deal must be wretched.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The Pac-12 media rights deal must be wretched. I don't think there is one, otherwise there's no reason for this PR song and dance. The gap between their asking price and what networks are willing to pay must be dire.
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dirty shrimp money posted:I don't think there is one, otherwise there's no reason for this PR song and dance. The gap between their asking price and what networks are willing to pay must be dire. Then there's this article which quotes a source who's probably Kliavkoff himself https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38031370/source-pac-12-media-rights-deal-expected-future There's some optimism out there that the writer's strike is making live sports more valuable in the near term but I'm not holding my breath. dphi fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Good news, just like the NCAA decided to stop punishing teams for cooperating with investigations after Mizzou got hammered for it, they created another policy/rule change https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1681294790686564352 Between that stupid rear end call, Nathaniel Peat dropping the game winning TD in OT as he crossed the goal line against Auburn, and I think one other game that had something ridiculous happen that I can't remember, Mizzou could've had like 9 wins last year
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Mike_V posted:Good news, just like the NCAA decided to stop punishing teams for cooperating with investigations after Mizzou got hammered for it, they created another policy/rule change
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Noted civil rights attorney Ben Crump is now representing several former Northwestern athletes alleging “rampant” hazing and sexual abuse. Think things may be looking kinda bad for Northwestern athletics. Worse than usual, I mean.
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New Northwestern lawsuit is alleging misconduct in softball and volleyball, in addition to the previously known football, baseball, and cheerleading incidents Death penalty
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Declan MacManus posted:if northwestern got the death penalty would they even bother bringing back athletics Maybe whoever is Big Ten commissioner this week could offer them half the money not to bother.
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Declan MacManus posted:if northwestern got the death penalty would they even bother bringing back athletics If they really want to be Chicago’s big ten team they’ll drop athletics like U of Chicago did a long time ago.
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Rectal Placenta posted:This is literally what Wisconsin was before Barry showed up. Yeah we used to be Northwestern edit: minus the hazing (hopefully)
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