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What if the show is following one of the alternate universe Invincibles from the Invincible War storyline.
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# ? Jan 21, 2023 20:57 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 13:01 |
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I assume you all saw this awesome Season 2 trailer a couple of weeks ago, but just in case you didn’t, watch it now. https://youtube.com/watch?v=vjDOpHuUppU
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 01:17 |
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only just noticed that season 2 is finally coming out (hoping that doesn't speak to the timeframe for 3 and beyond) but one thing that I always wonder about, ever since reading the comics after the first season is (comic spoilers and speculation) what are they going to do with some of the other status quo changing things? Like when the dinosaur guy glasses (quite literally) Las Vegas? Are we still going to have Robot and Monster Girl infiltrate the Flaxan empire to overthrow it? What's going to happen with Mark and Amber and Eve? still excited the show isn't dead, there are some good stories in the comics that I'm really curious how they'd get interpreted, considering a lot of the changes and switching around they already did for season 1 Aces High fucked around with this message at 22:50 on May 24, 2023 |
# ? May 24, 2023 06:21 |
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Pulcinella posted:Same. Though the Irredeemable is much more upfront about the “what if Superman was evil” gimmick, they are pretty similar if you are just comparing bullet points. They both even have a generic demon guy that annoys the military/government characters! this is the first time i heard of Irredeemable, so I went to check out the wiki, and... quote:The series follows the fall of the world's greatest superhero, the Plutonian, as he begins slaughtering the population of Earth. His former allies, the superhero group The Paradigm, attempt to find a way to stop his rampage while dealing with their own feelings of betrayal and hopelessness. that's...that's LITERALLY invincible!
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# ? May 26, 2023 10:28 |
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Mr Interweb posted:this is the first time i heard of Irredeemable, so I went to check out the wiki, and... It isn't. Plutonian is not a conqueror like Omni-Man; he's an insane narcissist who is absolutely desperate to be loved and hates that people are afraid of him no matter how hard he tries. The problem is that they're absolutely right to be afraid of him. He's become like an abusive husband beating his wife while screaming "why don't you love me?", except he's a living WMD and his domestic violence takes place on a global scale. That's not to say that Irredeemable is good - from what little I've read it's an edgelord take on the theme and even lifts the "Kryptonite condom" from Mark Millar's Wanted - but it's not the same.
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# ? May 26, 2023 10:55 |
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So many evil Superman deconstructions good lord Are there only 2 writers that can handle making a story where he helps people without irony or something?
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# ? May 26, 2023 11:26 |
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Irredeemable is like a less edgelordy version of The Boys. The Plutonian is much closer to Homelander than anything in Invincible. And when Incorruptible starts it becomes about (relatively) normal people trying to take him down. Irredeemable is pretty good, it is edgelordy at times but Mark Waid is just a much better writer than Ennis. Its main issue is that the art is not very good.
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# ? May 26, 2023 11:35 |
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RareAcumen posted:So many evil Superman deconstructions good lord It's kind of bizarre that the most standard Superman-esque stories nowadays seem to be "What if Superman was evil?" or "What if Batman punched Superman in the face?"
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# ? May 26, 2023 11:46 |
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:It's kind of bizarre that the most standard Superman-esque stories nowadays seem to be "What if Superman was evil?" or "What if Batman punched Superman in the face?" That latter is The Dark Knight Returns, and people have been trying to copy it for 30 years.
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# ? May 26, 2023 11:58 |
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:It's kind of bizarre that the most standard Superman-esque stories nowadays seem to be "What if Superman was evil?" or "What if Batman punched Superman in the face?" I watch just a few Karl Smallwood videos because I know basically nothing about any comic book events that aren't animated and suddenly youtube thinks I wanna see 'Spider-Man HUMBLES the Avengers' and 'Ant Man puts Hawkeye in his place' and other garbage like that. It's never heroes fighting villains, it's always barely justified deep-sigh reasons like I'm going through the story mode of a fighting game and they really want Michelangelo to fight Cyborg.
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# ? May 26, 2023 12:12 |
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Jedit posted:It isn't. Plutonian is not a conqueror like Omni-Man; he's an insane narcissist who is absolutely desperate to be loved and hates that people are afraid of him no matter how hard he tries. The problem is that they're absolutely right to be afraid of him. He's become like an abusive husband beating his wife while screaming "why don't you love me?", except he's a living WMD and his domestic violence takes place on a global scale. oh i see in that case, it's just literally The Boys then? RareAcumen posted:So many evil Superman deconstructions good lord it really is funny how we've had (at least) two series about an evil superman around the same time on the same streaming service
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# ? May 26, 2023 12:22 |
Blueberry Pancakes posted:It's kind of bizarre that the most standard Superman-esque stories nowadays seem to be "What if Superman was evil?" or "What if Batman punched Superman in the face?" There is Superman & Lois on HBO, which is "What if Superman was a really great dad?". Highly recommended. They eventually meet Bizarro Superman, and the main difference is that he is a super lovely dad who prioritized his Superman career over his children. It rules.
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# ? May 26, 2023 12:34 |
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Jedit posted:It isn't. Plutonian is not a conqueror like Omni-Man; he's an insane narcissist who is absolutely desperate to be loved and hates that people are afraid of him no matter how hard he tries. The problem is that they're absolutely right to be afraid of him. He's become like an abusive husband beating his wife while screaming "why don't you love me?", except he's a living WMD and his domestic violence takes place on a global scale. Irredeemable is why Waid's hottake on Man of Steel made me roll my eyes to mentat levels back in the day. He's good when he's not doing edgelord deconstruction. See also: Empire.
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# ? May 26, 2023 12:35 |
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SimonChris posted:There is Superman & Lois on HBO, which is "What if Superman was a really great dad?". Highly recommended. It's also airing on CW, and the current season can be watched on their app as it airs (if you don't mind commercials). One thing I really appreciate is that while, yes, Clark and Lois are objectively wonderfully caring parents, they're not perfect. They make mistakes and unforced errors. Sadly just part of being a parent. Tyler Hoechlin makes for a pretty great Clark and Superman. His Clark is such a dork, it's adorable.
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# ? May 26, 2023 14:31 |
For being a YA series Brandon Sanderson Steelheart had a good take on "super powered assholes". Its like the boys except with more optimism and less cringey edginess.
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# ? May 26, 2023 15:16 |
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Irredeemable is ok, if a bit of a slog at some points. I thought it’s deconstruction of his main villain Modeus was way more interesting than it’s take on their Superman analogue
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# ? May 26, 2023 16:20 |
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Good Citizen posted:Irredeemable is ok, if a bit of a slog at some points. I thought it’s deconstruction of his main villain Modeus was way more interesting than it’s take on their Superman analogue I really liked Irredeemable, but yeah, it kinda dragged on a bit and got a little soap opera-y here and there. Still a really fun read, and a pretty good Bad Superman kinda comic -- in my opinion, better than the official Bad Superman comic, Injustice. They go into the Bad Superman's backstory and how someone who didn't have the loving upbringing of Clark Kent would have a much harder time processing everything that the world's greatest hero would have to go through, and it's a pretty interesting deconstruction of why he would snap and turn on everyone. A lot of pretty fun bits in there, especially if you'd also be interested in seeing a less-pacifistic Dr. Who analogue.
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# ? May 26, 2023 23:30 |
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Irredeemable had about 6 off-ramps for a good ending and blew past them, kept going through characters being stupid.
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# ? May 27, 2023 06:35 |
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Irredeemable was and is poo poo all through. Maybe the first issue was good i guess. So when is S2 coming out?
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# ? May 27, 2023 09:59 |
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You didn't like the bit where he confesses his love to Lois Lane and tells her he's secretly the Plutonian, and she instantly runs out into the Daily Planet office and is like "Hey, everyone! Clark Kent is secretly the Plutonian!" and they immediately put it on a broadcast ahahaha. And then he rages out and flies out and destroys the satellite before it can receive the transmission, and comes back to deliver a speech like "you dumb motherfuckers, if certain people ever find out what you know they'll kill you and anyone near you to get to me" and then I think it says a couple of em eventually killed themselves under the stress of knowing the secret. Like there were some legitimately fun parts, but yeah, as has been said it dragged out way too long and had some dumb stuff happen to keep the plot going (although I think the eventual ending was pretty good).
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# ? May 28, 2023 03:12 |
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Here's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED1SJ1TA2Do And also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQmHQLpUrAo Second one is out... now.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 03:15 |
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Omni-Man also got into Mortal Kombat recently.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 03:51 |
neat surprise to go along with the Venture Bros finale. this show has a pretty crazy cast list.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 04:06 |
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Amazon Prime November 3rd Finally, a date again. drat was that a long wait.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 04:12 |
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That's a ridiculous list of good actors/voice actors.bull3964 posted:I google lensed that season 2 addition card. Geeze. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jul 22, 2023 |
# ? Jul 22, 2023 07:31 |
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NmareBfly posted:Here's this: Just finished the Atom Eve episode and it was solidly alright. If there was a comic version of this I hadn't read it so it was all new to me, even if I knew the outline of the story by reference
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 08:34 |
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Good Citizen posted:Just finished the Atom Eve episode and it was solidly alright. If there was a comic version of this I hadn't read it so it was all new to me, even if I knew the outline of the story by reference There was a two-issue Atom Eve mini-series, but I haven't read it.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 10:34 |
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Here's maybe a weird question. Other than binging Full Metal Alchemist with a former housemate, I've never got into any anime. Is Invincible the equivalent of what it's like in Japan, but with multiple adult animated series airing each year?
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:27 |
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Senor Tron posted:Here's maybe a weird question. I think Invincible's got a higher budget than most anime, and more explicit violence, but yeah, Japan puts out animation for adults all the time. Psycho-Pass comes to mind, I'm not sure what's more recent.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:50 |
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I don't think Invincible is a hell of a lot more violent than something like Invincible. But yeah, you get a few shows of that caliber a year usually. I read the original Atom Eve comic when it came out. I don't remember it too well, but I think the story was completely different though with the same main beats.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:49 |
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Chainsaw Man and Vinland Saga are two solid recommends.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:49 |
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Senor Tron posted:Here's maybe a weird question. No, superhero stuff in japan is typically live action like Kamen rider and ultra man. You should watch the shin Ultraman film if you're curious about that. If you want to see high quality animated production value you should probably start with some films like ghost in the shell or perfect blue
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 16:06 |
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Senor Tron posted:Here's maybe a weird question. You wanna get 11% weird? Watch Big O and check out what an anime made by a team that loves Bruce Wayne and big robots looks like.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 19:28 |
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Eve's parents are horrible, but I feel like she kinda latched onto the "siblings" that tried to murder her a bit fast.
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 00:08 |
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Eve's parents are horrible, but I feel like she kinda latched onto the "siblings" that tried to murder her a bit fast. I think it's her sense of empathy and the fact that they were the only biological family that she had. Not to mention their contempt was tragic and blameless--most of them hadn't been out of their tubes long enough to even learn to talk. All they knew was that they were inferior versions of her. Also, man that facial expression shift of Omni man in the stinger was ominous as gently caress!
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 01:19 |
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I just watched the Atom Eve special and, how to say this, why did they bother? Maybe her past is going to inform a lot of the next season, but the whole thing was such generic YA bullshit.
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 11:07 |
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they may also have one in the tube for Rex as well, in the comics they did two prequels that were specifically to explain where Eve came from (in terms of her unique power set) and then explain her relationship with Rex before Invincible proper shows up. regardless of all that, holy gently caress Lance Reddick!
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 11:25 |
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Man, RIP Lance Reddick. He was so good.
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 11:55 |
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I just watched the Atom Eve special and, how to say this, why did they bother? I assume it's to keep people engaged / rebuild hype after the incredibly long delay between seasons.
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 12:34 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 13:01 |
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Oh, by the way, are there two Green Ghosts in the comics? Because the one in this special was a man, but the one at the start of the series was a woman?
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 13:10 |