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commie kong posted:The app doesn't have any background activity, as far as I'm aware. Could you have a look at Settings, Battery, scroll down a bit and select Last 10 days and then Show Activity? It's definitely the Awful app.  My battery life went terrible about a week ago, which would be roughly when my phone updated to the latest version of Awful.
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Finally the Bitcoin miner feature I have been waiting for, to accompany the search.
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Jul 23, 2023 01:19
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Yeah wow. The app doesn't even have any background activity capabilities. And I don't just mean no features, I mean Apple app entitlements you need to apply for background stuff to even happen. You might not even be able to disable background activity for the app due to that lack of capability being set. When it moves to background it stops a cache pruning timer and does a save of the current Core Data context. That's all I could see, so something's hosed. Anyone else getting that? withak posted:Finally the Bitcoin miner feature I have been waiting for, to accompany the search. Lol
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Jul 23, 2023 01:24
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Just checked mine and sure enough, exactly the same background usage. Which is odd because I have Background App Refresh globally disabled
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Jul 23, 2023 01:57
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I have not been having this issue on the beta from 22 days ago
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Just checked mine and sure enough, exactly the same background usage. Which is odd because I have Background App Refresh globally disabled Grassy Knowles posted:I have not been having this issue on the beta from 22 days ago Thanks! Okay, so for more info for the very curious (skip this post if not): The only significant background-related function is in the DataStore.swift file (line 46). This takes in a Notification, which is "A container for information broadcast through a notification center to all registered observers." A few other files have observers for this notification: PostsViewExternalStylesheetLoader.swift, AnnouncementListRefresher.swift, PrivateMessageInboxRefresher.swift, and MRActivityIndicatorView.m. For Announcements and Private Messages, it cancels the timer that periodically checks for new announcements/PMs. It's cancelling the timer that gets started when the app first loads or enters the foreground. For PostsViewExternalStylesheetLoader, it cancels the timer that periodically checks for this css file: https://awfulapp.com/posts-view-style.css Which is interesting, I've never looked at that before. It blanks out some username decorations? I suppose we don't have those files or something? I'll ask pokeyman about that one. The MRActivityIndicatorView file doesn't deal with any timers, it just cancels any progress animations if one is playing while entering the background. The only real work that takes place is in the DataStore file that I linked to above. It cancels a timer and saves the CoreData context, which is good and it should do that or things will crash (even more). However all these Notifications and Observers are an oldschool way of doing things, I think. This article mentions methods that we aren't using at all (only the "Begin and End Background Task" beginning section applies to AwfulApp as we don't actually have bitcoin miners or the entitlements set to facilitate them. We'd need to implement the rest of the article to do that and then Apple would need to approve it): https://absenceofnunchi.com/2022/04/19/how-background-mode-works-in-swift/ Anyway, am rubber ducking a bit here. I'll send this post to pokeyman and see what he thinks, but I'm inclined to try and move to the AppDelegate functions described in the first section of that article. As for "the last update did this" line of thinking that come up sometimes... sometimes it's NOT updating things that causes issues. iOS is always updating and this app (which i love) is legacy as hell. Edit: Oh also, the beta and the live app are the same build atm fyi commie kong fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jul 23, 2023 |
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https://youtu.be/vUz9xCTOPRw Warbird fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jul 23, 2023 |
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commie kong posted:As for "the last update did this" line of thinking that come up sometimes... sometimes it's NOT updating things that causes issues. iOS is always updating and this app (which i love) is legacy as hell. There was an iPhone update about a week ago that could be the cause. Rapid Security Response iOS 16.5.1 (c)
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Jul 23, 2023 04:53
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Urcher posted:It's definitely the Awful app.  Nothing here on the 14 pro max, here's the last 10 days  Yes maybe I do browse too much, mind your business 
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This is the past 10 days for me: iPhone 12, 16.5.1(c) spankmeister fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jul 23, 2023 |
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Jul 23, 2023 06:39
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Me too in the current beta.
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Regarding the iPad crash: I've not had it crash, but I've seen a couple of times that pressing "Preview" (after drafting a new post) would just get me a blank loading page. I can press back and then preview again and it's still broken. It doesn't happen every time. Maybe only when I take too long to compose a message (is there a short lived session cookie or something?)
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Not seeing it on the iOS 17 beta on my 13 pro, but it seems my own time management is completely hosed if there's some way for an update to address that.
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NFX posted:Regarding the iPad crash: I've not had it crash, but I've seen a couple of times that pressing "Preview" (after drafting a new post) would just get me a blank loading page. I can press back and then preview again and it's still broken. It doesn't happen every time. Maybe only when I take too long to compose a message (is there a short lived session cookie or something?) That happens to me from time to time. Loading the parent forum of whatever thread I’m posting in clears it up.
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I think the usage reporting is just broken. And/or it could be an iOS or battery issue. Not saying this app can't be improved re: performance and battery life (it defs can, as pokeyman mentions below), but it's definitely not programmed to be doing things while backgrounded. As it moves to background, it does the small tasks I described in an earlier post and that's all. The code can be audited on GitHub  Been searching around and people have been talking about this for years and many different apps. https://support.photoephemeris.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005339503-App-shows-time-in-background-in-Battery-Usage-iOS-apps- https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/background-activity-despite-settings-throws-off-battery-stats.2322207/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/app-background-refreshing-even-when-disabled.2075262/ Pokeyman replied to me: pokeyman posted:I don't have any bright ideas for the battery use, unfortunately. I'm not seeing it myself, though I am on the TestFlight build so I'll install the App Store build and see if that changes anything. (idk why it would, as you pointed out it's the same build, but worth a shot!) You're right that we don't have any entitlements for background processing, so our only chance to run in the background is the brief time iOS gives us when we transition from the foreground. And that's quite limited (30 seconds?) unless you ask for more time, which I don't think we do. And even if you ask for more time, I think it's on the order of minutes. If you try to get clever and just refuse to stop working, you get terminated. So I don't think that explains the massive background time in that screenshot. I'll take a look at that DataStore file sometime this week. Been meaning to update the way CoreData stuff is handled anyway. Over the years I've taken multiple stabs at fixing the crash that happens when you log out and try to log back in and I think updating the coredata stuff will do that. Maybe it will help with this other stuff too. Tho I still don't trust those background stats. By opening and closing the app repeatedly I got my stats to say 21 minutes of background activity for Awfulapp and then all that background activity disappeared completely. susan b buffering posted:Not seeing it on the iOS 17 beta on my 13 pro, but it seems my own time management is completely hosed if there's some way for an update to address that. I know you're joking, but while I was searching I actually did find something for time management https://osxdaily.com/2021/11/13/screen-time-inaccurate-issue-iphone-ipad/ https://osxdaily.com/2020/03/26/set-time-limit-apps-iphone-ipad-screen-time/
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commie kong posted:In other news, fileglass - the potential alternative image host that was offering a free application api - has declared they're shutting down and that the service was always doomed to fail from the start. So that's cool. quote:Fileglass is no longer operating.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Which is odd because I have Background App Refresh globally disabled Someone who knows more about iOS development please correct me if I’m wrong, but “Background App Refresh” is just one specific type of background activity that an app can perform. Toggling it off does not disable all background activity. The fact that it has such a generic name and Apple doesn’t give you controls to disable any other types of background activity make this non-obvious.
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The background activity problem has vanished overnight. The night before last my phone ran completely out of battery. I suspect the iOS security update messed something up causing a lot of background activity to be attributed to the Awful app and the hard reset from running out of battery fixed it. Awful has 51 min on screen and no background activity in the last 24 hours. No change in app or iOS version. If anyone else is having the background activity problem try a hard reset.
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Looking forward to the search function! Thanks for working on that.
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Actual bug report: on the oled dark theme, the “is this post nsfw” (at least I THINK it’s that) text above the toggle is invisible when you try to report something
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Jul 26, 2023 07:29
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Snitches get glitches.
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i dunno if this is something you have any control over, but in embedded twitch clips you can't go to the clip page, you can only copy the url: tapping it without holding it does nothing. embedded youtubes also have a "go to youtube" button here iirc
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commie kong posted:In less glum news, here's some Search stuff I started a few weeks ago. There's still more to do (like pagination, UI stuff) but it's pretty promising so far. Ugh, does this mean I need to look into adding posting threads? gently caress.
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euphronius posted:I miss easily posting pictures a lot The old versions of the app still work for this if you’ve got an old copy around. I avoided upgrading from 6.1 and it’s been working fine.
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Cyrano4747 posted:The old versions of the app still work for this if you’ve got an old copy around. The shortcut is actually better since you don’t have to worry about converting it to jpg before you try and do it in the app.
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MarcusSA posted:The shortcut is actually better since you don’t have to worry about converting it to jpg before you try and do it in the app. ?? I’ve never had problems with this. Maybe I’m just not finding pictures on obscure enough websites. I think I’ve had a handful of times where it was that dumb web only image extension I’m blanking on now. Edit either way the shortcut still requires an Imgur account right? So lol no.
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yeah i don't think the app feature needed me to convert an image ever.
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b_d posted:yeah i don't think the app feature needed me to convert an image ever. Oh well if you use take a photo with the camera you need to make it a jpg first 
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b_d posted:yeah i don't think the app feature needed me to convert an image ever. There are times when the app would straight up fail on .heic files if they had never been converted to a .jpg by any other software. I could add an image to a post, but the preview would be blank. The solution for me was to add the image, copy it, delete the original, and then paste the image as the clipboard on iOS automatically copies the .jpg version.
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it is possible i never happened to try to upload a photo i had taken. or gave up and forgot when it didn't work
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heic or webp never worked with the native app uploader in my experience, but jpg upload worked like 99.5% of the time
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Current version is adding url tags when I try to upload an image. The image button does the same exact thing as the url button.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Current version is adding url tags when I try to upload an image. The image button does the same exact thing as the url button. Read prior posts this is intended behavior
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Current version is adding url tags when I try to upload an image. The image button does the same exact thing as the url button. If you’re uploading from Imgur change the pasted URL /URL tags to TIMG and /TIMG as long as it’s a jpg
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Have imgur done the threatened 'purge of non-account uploads' yet..? Or if not is there a date / ballpark for it?
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Current version is adding url tags when I try to upload an image. The image button does the same exact thing as the url button. Thread title
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Anything to be done after the report dialogue to confirm your report has been submitted? At the moment it just disappears after you hit submit.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Have imgur done the threatened 'purge of non-account uploads' yet..? Or if not is there a date / ballpark for it? Not that I'm aware My wild-rear end guess is that at some point they'll start purging anonymous images that haven't been accessed in X days/years I've yet to see any communication from imgur on the topic since they updated their fine print. And SA management has had a wall of deafening silence about any future progress on "image upload 2.0" despite near-constant prodding about it. Astral promised an update at some point but other than "i'm very busy right now" haven't heard from her in at least a month on the topic
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