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JUNGLE BOY posted:One year ago today the man responsible for the sport we know and love, Vince McMahon, stepped down and retired, and the Era of HHH began. What are some of your favorite moments from HHH’s WWE?
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 06:13 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 19:54 |
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This is my favorite moment of all time in the fed
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 06:36 |
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NorgLyle posted:Was she intentionally trying to make that move look bad for some reason? Like Shawn Michaels doing the comic oversell for Hogan thing? If so, why? If not, what the gently caress was that? At first I thought it was supposed to be a counter where Charlotte, like, caught Shirai and tossed her aside until Charlotte "sold" the move by doing a front somersault
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 07:26 |
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People would say good things about Charlotte in years prior and for the life of me I've never understood it. I don't give a flip if she can have good matches occasionally--if every other showing from her is dog rear end who even cares?
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 07:30 |
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She works for the company where wrestling doesn't matter and she can always be near the belt, if she were Kevin Nash people would be calling her a genius.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 07:57 |
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if she occasionally tweeted labor or vaguely good guy stuff in the past 13 years everyone would call her a genius tbh
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 08:06 |
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maybe she would also need to say how much she doesn't care about wrestling itself as well. i'm not claiming to know the exact formula but i do think a good portion of hate for her is that she comes across as wanting 'greatest of all time' type recognition, at least in the opinions of many "onliners." thats you guys
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 08:08 |
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Charlotte got a lot of good hype because she showed up and could do handstand flips and wasn't terrible unlike so many children of stars, but then she didn't improve at all for a decade.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 08:39 |
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Kevin Nash is good, Charlotte is good this is good
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 09:21 |
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TheKingslayer posted:She works for the company where wrestling doesn't matter and she can always be near the belt, if she were Kevin Nash people would be calling her a genius. edit: maybe she didn't intentionally deadlift Kairi into a table and slap her for being concussed, maybe she's just dumb as hell
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 10:09 |
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Tampa Bae posted:Kevin Nash put people over and didn't intentionally hurt people ...are we talking about the same Kevin Nash here?
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 11:16 |
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Vandar posted:...are we talking about the same Kevin Nash here? The doctors that had to fix his knees seven times were never working more or making more money than during that period of time
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 11:19 |
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Kevin Nash definitely put people over more than someone like Hogan Nash didn’t give a poo poo about winning as long as he was getting paid
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 11:22 |
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The Outsiders would lose a bunch of random matches because neither of them cared about having the titles and in TNA he easily put over the X-Division with the goofy skits. Kevin Nash lost to Rey Mysterio clean idk what else you want from him
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 11:48 |
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He knew that winning gets you more paid and he never put anyone over as Kevin Nash unless it did not matter, until TNA. and in TNA he might have racked up a couple more people than hogan but for much less "impact". no idea where the opposite ideas came from except, again, his reputation as a person doing a shitload of influencing and heavy lifting nash demasked rey mysterio in a tag match on ppv without even having to work, then rey got to flash pin him and run away on nitro. he was the same thing as triple h except with the desire to be on top for the pay without actually having the working spotlight unless it was to cut a promo. if that rey thing counts as putting somebody over then hogan put over vampiro and kidman, which he didn't even though he lost to them. but he did put over mike awesome and anyone he knew was a big deal plus nash did intentionally hurt people. he broke a really small guy's neck with a botched powerbomb and everybody ran to his defense acting like it was impossible to hit the move in the first place Cavauro fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Jul 22, 2023 |
# ? Jul 22, 2023 11:51 |
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if charlotte were a man, 7 feet tall, wanted to sit down 24 hours a day, had a younger family member die more recently instead of when she was still green, and posted praxis, everyone would be saying Yeah for LA Knight! Let's give it up for LA Knight
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 12:11 |
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TheKingslayer posted:She works for the company where wrestling doesn't matter and she can always be near the belt, if she were Kevin Nash people would be calling her a genius. Bad example. Kevin Nash is entertaining. Kevin Nash is charismatic. Kevin Nash is self-aware. Charlotte is none of these things. Also, has her character changed/evolved/been tweaked from "haughty princess who thinks she is better than everyone else because of her pedigree, and can back it up in the ring"? As far as I know there has been absolutely no growth or change in that area. And this is a personal preference, so is extremely subjective. But her promos suck arse, and are the opposite of compelling or interesting. At least the few I have seen. Once again, personal preference, and I haven't seen many Charlotte promos/interviews.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 12:24 |
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Kevin Nash booked himself to end Goldberg’s streak.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 13:23 |
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Julio Cruz posted:Kevin Nash booked himself to end Goldberg’s streak.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 13:28 |
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Julio Cruz posted:Kevin Nash booked himself to end Goldberg’s streak. It might have been Eric Bischoff. At the very least it was done with Eric Bischoff's blessing. The Death of WCW posted:And then there was the main event. Goldberg destroyed Nash for a long time until both Disco Inferno and Bam Bam Bigelow ran in. Both were slaughtered. Then, as both Goldberg and the referee were distracted, Scott Hall snuck in and zapped Goldberg with a cattle prod. You read that right, a cattle prod. Nash delivered a formerly banned powerbomb and got the pin. I have no idea how the gently caress these morons ever managed to book successful shows.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 13:50 |
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BrigadierSensible posted:Bad example. Kevin Nash is entertaining. Kevin Nash is charismatic. Kevin Nash is self-aware. Nope. Hell her promo when she returned last month or so was basically: "I am Charlotte Flair, I don't earn title shots. I demand them because of who I am. Non-title matches are below me, the other women can just get in line until I am done going after the title." And WWE expected everyone to cheer for her after that. There's a reason why Sasha/Mercedes, Becky, and Bayley are more well liked by wrestling fans. They are nowhere near as egotistical as Charlotte.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 13:52 |
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Julio Cruz posted:Kevin Nash booked himself to end Goldberg’s streak. maybe she didn't book it herself but asukas streak ended at the hands of Charlotte and then asuka thanked her in the ring for it lol its hard to think of anyone else who's regressed as hard as Charlotte has, esp with her level of exposure. she really was quite good once upon a time!!
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:01 |
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History Comes Inside! posted:
Lol the guy was known to not show up or get ‘injured” for matches he was booked to lose. Love him but cmon now.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:08 |
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shiksa posted:maybe she didn't book it herself but asukas streak ended at the hands of Charlotte and then asuka thanked her in the ring for it lol I think you can pinpoint the exact moment Charlotte started regressing massively, and it was when Becky got more over than her, and the fans booed the everliving hell out of Charlotte winning in that triple threat at Summerslam against Becky and Carmella. And instead of pivoting, WWE kept trying to act like Charlotte was the huge valiant babyface who had to fight for her opportunities. DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Jul 22, 2023 |
# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:09 |
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Well, I’ll say my favorite moment then. Mine is Johnny Gargano’s return. The crowd cheered really loudly for him
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:34 |
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JUNGLE BOY posted:Well, I’ll say my favorite moment then. Mine is Johnny Gargano’s return. The crowd cheered really loudly for him Mine is when that little logo at the end of the show plays. Because that means it's done.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:39 |
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A lot of the clips of the Tribal Chief stuff I’ve watched have been cool. Sami Zayn turning against Roman, him and Owens winning the tag titles, all good stuff from what I’ve seen.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:44 |
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TheKingslayer posted:Mine is when that little logo at the end of the show plays. Because that means it's done.
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:46 |
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ARMBAR A COP posted:For those of you not watching get this lol
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 14:57 |
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The series finale for WWE positivity posting
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:03 |
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My favorite part of the show is when Charlotte appears because it means we get another manifesto here
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 15:05 |
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:It might have been Eric Bischoff. At the very least it was done with Eric Bischoff's blessing. hmm maybe that was something he just politicked for then there was definitely a time when he booked himself to get the title, that might have been later on after one of the times Russo got fired
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 18:22 |
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Not sure where else to post this but since title has Hitler on it and former WWF "name" and neo-nazi Tony Halme is featured in this, hell why not. I was reading Observer Rewind 1995 and it had mention of "fake ufc" ppv event called Fight Zone... and my god we have the full show... Basically it was sold as real underground fights but was actually stunt fights with fake blood and fake crowd (sound familiar?) Hell Halme wins the match with DDT But this poo poo is crazy awful good. 90 Van Damme fights, vagually racist gimmicks (latino street thug?) And truly awful commentating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH2VODfVmGI
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# ? Jul 22, 2023 19:58 |
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1glitch0 posted:Charlotte got a lot of good hype because she showed up and could do handstand flips and wasn't terrible unlike so many children of stars, but then she didn't improve at all for a decade. There's also a lot of the regular resentment and pushback against her, deserved-or-otherwise, based on her being booked the same way that Homer coached Bart's football team. It's just that while Cena did eventually get better (and I'd argue was much better than he was often made out to be in the mid-2000s), like you've said, Charlotte has basically stagnated as a wrestler, not to mention that there's evidence that people really don't want to see her at all. Hasn't she regularly been ratings poison when she deigns to turn up and get herself shoehorned into the title picture?
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 07:36 |
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This snapped Charlotte's brain in half and she basically stopped trying after that. Which is funny, because this came just a few months after Ronda's brain snapped in half from something pretty similar (her getting booed after Charlotte beat the crap out of her). Basically, they were penciled in for the main event of WM35 a year ahead of time, but Becky got way more over than either of them in the intervening months, the audience roundly rejected both Charlotte and Ronda as a result and boy oh boy did neither one of them take it well.
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 08:09 |
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:It might have been Eric Bischoff. At the very least it was done with Eric Bischoff's blessing. Nash's maintained he didn't book that, because it made him look like poo poo. And he's right, it didn't gain anyone anything.
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 08:12 |
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MJeff posted:
I can't even blame her in this context. When you'll never be any less or any more than what you are, why try?
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 08:52 |
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Nia Jax concussing Becky and breaking her nose was quite the butterfly effect for the women’s division.
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 09:33 |
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MJeff posted:
I'm gonna blame that one unconfirmed rumor that someone was filming her back stage without consent or punishment.
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 13:42 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 19:54 |
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TheCool69 posted:Not sure where else to post this but since title has Hitler on it and former WWF "name" and neo-nazi Tony Halme is featured in this, hell why not. This rocks.
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# ? Jul 23, 2023 13:51 |