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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

artillery and mobility are sufficient, thank you!

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fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Good news for Ukraine:
- The Ukrainian General Staff did not publish a situation report about its counteroffensive operations on July 22.
- Ukraine will make a profound difference on the battlefield as Kyiv commits all of the forces that Ukraine prepared for the counteroffensive.
- Ukrainian missile and artillery strikes are so powerful and accurate that Russian forces can no longer conduct effective counterbattery fire.



https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-22-2023

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, July 22, 2023

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations on at least three sectors of the front on July 22.

The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations in the Berdyansk (Zaporizhia-Donetsk Oblast area) and Melitopol directions (western Zaporizhia Oblast).[1]

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Russian forces repelled 14 Ukrainian attacks south of Kreminna, Luhansk Oblast, and in the Bakhmut area.[2]

The Ukrainian General Staff did not publish a situation report about its counteroffensive operations on July 22.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated that Ukrainian counteroffensive operations may soon increase in tempo and that the delay in counteroffensive operations was in part due to limited materiel.

Zelensky stated at the Aspen Security Forum on July 21 that Ukrainian forces had plans to launch counteroffensive operations in the spring but that a lack of munitions and military equipment, such as mine-clearing equipment and continued Ukrainian training abroad, necessitated a delay.[3] Zelensky noted that the delay in Ukrainian counteroffensive operations allowed Russian forces to establish minefields and multiple defensive lines.[4]

ISW assessed in January 2023 that the provision of Western weapons and materiel to Ukraine has been essential to Ukraine’s previous ability to conduct successful counteroffensive operations and that delays between Western pledges to send higher-end Western systems to Ukraine and the arrival of those systems likely hinder Ukraine’s ability to initiate and sustain large-scale counteroffensive operations.[5]

Zelensky stated that counteroffensive operations may soon increase in tempo due to ongoing mine-clearing operations.[6]

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken stated on July 21 at the Aspen Security Forum that it is too early to draw conclusions about Ukrainian counteroffensive operations and that Ukraine will likely “make a profound difference” on the battlefield as Kyiv commits all of the forces that Ukraine prepared for the counteroffensive.[7]


Ukrainian officials stated on July 22 that Ukraine’s interdiction campaign against Russian military targets in rear areas is successfully degrading Russian logistics and counterbattery capabilities, likely contributing to an asymmetrical attrition gradient in Ukraine’s favor.

Ukrainian Chief of the Main Directorate of Missile Troops and Artillery and Unmanned Systems of the General Staff Colonel Serhiy Baranov stated on July 22 that Ukrainian missile and artillery units are responsible for approximately 90 percent of Russian losses.[8]

Baranov stated that Ukrainian missile and artillery units have created a long-range “fire fist” thanks to Western high-precision missiles and artillery systems and that Ukrainian strikes are so powerful and accurate that Russian forces can no longer conduct effective counterbattery fire.[9]

Ukrainian Southern Operational Command Spokesperson Captain First Rank Nataliya Humenyuk stated on July 22 that Ukrainian attacks on Russian ammunition concentrations in deep rear areas are causing logistical issues for the Russian military.[10]

Humenyuk noted that this trend is reflected in decreased Russian shelling in Kherson Oblast, which indicates that Russian forces are experiencing “shell hunger” in the area.[11]

Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Commander Brigadier General Oleksandr Tarnavskyi compared Ukraine’s counteroffensive to boxing on July 13 and stated that Ukraine intends to “hold the opponent at arm’s length” in order to avoid close combat because Ukraine can effectively defeat Russian forces from a long distance, likely referencing Ukraine’s continued interdiction campaign in eastern and southern Ukraine.[12]

Baranov’s, Humenyuk’s, and Tarnavskyi’s statements suggest that the Ukrainian military is successfully carrying out this interdiction campaign.

This campaign is a central aspect of Ukraine’s plan to create an asymmetrical attrition gradient that conserves Ukrainian manpower at the cost of a slower rate of territorial gains while gradually wearing down Russian manpower and equipment.[13]

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bonus good news for Ukraine:
- Ukrainian troops win when they get into close combat with the Russians
- Ukraine can also effectively defeat defeat Russian forces from a long distance
- Therefore, there is no way for the Russian forces to win.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/23/west-must-focus-on-preparing-ukraines-troops-or-we-will-all-pay-the-price


... Although Ukrainian troops tend to win when they get into close combat with the Russians, getting there without taking unsustainable losses is not always possible.


https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-22-2023

... Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Commander Brigadier General Oleksandr Tarnavskyi compared Ukraine’s counteroffensive to boxing on July 13 and stated that Ukraine intends to “hold the opponent at arm’s length” in order to avoid close combat because Ukraine can effectively defeat Russian forces from a long distance, likely referencing Ukraine’s continued interdiction campaign in eastern and southern Ukraine.[12]

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
tldr

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Consolidated latest good news for Ukraine:
- Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness will carry the day
- More European leaders over recent months have come to believe that Ukraine must prevail in the conflict
- Moscow’s military is grappling with low morale because of exhaustion, poor supplies and infighting among Russian leaders
- Ukraine has used a highly mobile, decentralized defense against Russia’s larger but lumbering ground forces
- Moscow has failed to gain air superiority, allowing Ukrainian ground forces to batter Russian troops and their supplies
- Ukraine is on the offensive against Russian positions
- F-16s pose enough of a threat to Russian aircraft that they will be less dangerous to Ukrainian ground forces and civilian infrastructure
- Ukrainian pilots and mechanics are preparing to train to fly and maintain the F-16s
- The Russian military is thin on reserves
- The Ukrainians have longer-ranged, more accurate, and more plentiful heavy howitzers, limiting Russian counter-battery fire
- Ukraine’s partners have provided sufficient artillery and protected mobility
- The Ukrainian General Staff did not publish a situation report about its counteroffensive operations on July 22
- Ukraine will make a profound difference on the battlefield as Kyiv commits all of the forces that Ukraine prepared for the counteroffensive
- Ukrainian missile and artillery strikes are so powerful and accurate that Russian forces can no longer conduct effective counterbattery fire
- Ukrainian troops win when they get into close combat with the Russians
- Ukraine can also effectively defeat defeat Russian forces from a long distance
- Therefore, there is no way for the Russian forces to win.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Yeah, the Army sent him. He was a communications tech and there was some sort of agreement between Laos and the (at the time) North Vietnamese government which limited the number of uniformed US troops allowed in the nation. So the Army and CIA just sent a bunch of "civilian" workers and my dad was one of them.

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
do you mean air supremacy?

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
I'm just so happy with all this good news. I mean, with so many things going right, victory must be imminently within Ukraine's grasp.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
And if Ukraine DOESN'T win in these excellent conditions, it's clearly nobody's fault but their own!

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Zodium posted:

the americans are presently eating their horses

True story, Yanks come up to Montreal to buy horse meat.

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
horse isn't bad

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1683056075262554112

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

drat son, Ukraine has this poo poo wrapped up

My boy pooty gonna have to tell everybody so sorry about everything

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

artillery and mobility are sufficient, thank you!

Please do not send any more, we are sufficiently supplied!

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

I think the only way to keep Ukraine safe is for to have it folded into the Russian federation on a permanent basis

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Frosted Flake posted:

True story, Yanks come up to Montreal to buy horse meat.

You northern North Americans are really hosed up, the only normal people in this hemisphere live in a swamp or at a hot desert

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

2 most normal places in North America

1. Phoenix Arizona

2. Biloxi Mississippi

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Orange Devil posted:

I'm just so happy with all this good news. I mean, with so many things going right, victory must be imminently within Ukraine's grasp.

I continue to be disappointed that after over a year of nonstop victories, mowing down mindless Russian hordes, and multiple super weapons they’re still doing this. come on guys finish them off

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
I want to try horse. A nice horse steak

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




More good news for ukraine

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
is there any news in Ukraine about covid?

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1682817581684490241

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007



Poland will invade any day now I'm sure.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

First thing that came to mind was the camptown lady song from Blazing Saddles.

Digiwizzard
Dec 23, 2003


Pork Pro
Phenomenal news for Ukraine -- this UK analyst is stating that the counteroffensive has reached an important turning point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWfE4DAyao

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Bad news for Russia: Human Rights Watch reports new evidence of Ukrainian use of banned landmines

quote:

June 30, 2023

Human Rights Watch (HRW) said on Friday that it uncovered new evidence of the indiscriminate use by Ukrainian forces of banned anti-personnel landmines against Russian troops who invaded Ukraine in 2022.

The group called on Ukraine's government to follow through with a commitment made earlier this month not to employ such weapons, investigate their suspected use and hold accountable those responsible.

"The Ukrainian government’s pledge to investigate its military’s apparent use of banned anti-personnel mines is an important recognition of its duty to protect civilians," Steve Goose, Human Rights Watch's arms director, said in a statement.

HRW said it shared its findings with the Ukrainian government in a May letter to which it received no response.

Ukraine's embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment.

Ukraine in 2005 ratified a 1997 international treaty banning such mines and mandating the destruction of stocks of the weapons.

Russia did not join the treaty and its use of anti-personnel mines "violates international humanitarian law ... because they are inherently indiscriminate," the report said.

Anti-personnel mines are detonated by a person's presence, proximity or contact and can kill and maim long after a conflict ends.

Since Russia's February 2022 invasion, HRW has published four reports documenting the use by Russian troops of 13 types of anti-personnel mines that killed and injured civilians.

The new report is a follow-on to a January report that Ukrainian soldiers fired rockets that scattered thousands of PMF-1 mines in Russian-occupied areas in and around the eastern city of Izium between April and September 2022, when Kyiv's forces recaptured it.

The latest report said that fresh evidence of Ukrainian forces' use of anti-personnel mines in 2002 [sic] came from photographs posted online by an individual working in eastern Ukraine that showed warhead sections of Uragan 220mm rockets.

Those rockets each indiscriminately disburse 312 PFM-1S anti-personnel mines, said the report.

Analysis of handwriting on one warhead determined that the first word was Ukrainian for "from," while a second Latin alphabet word related to an organization in Kyiv, which the report did not identify.

The person who headed the organization - also unidentified - had social media posts "indicating that they had donated funds to the Ukrainian military via a non-governmental organization (NGO)."

Photographs of Uragan warheads posted online bearing messages written in Ukrainian were linked to a different Ukraine-based group, the report said.

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo
is the war over yet

0 rows returned
Apr 9, 2007

yes

January 6 Survivor
Jan 6, 2022

The
Nelson Mandela
of clapping
dusty old cheeks


( o(

BitcoinRockefeller posted:

6 Gerald R Ford class carriers will end Russia as a nation state.

more like Gerarld r word rear end carriers amirite

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

now we can discuss more important things.

What is a Shuckle?

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Tankbuster posted:

now we can discuss more important things.

What is a Shuckle?

They've renamed him to Sneedle.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009



https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia-f51ecf9

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

Cpt_Obvious posted:

The worst part is how the blame is resting solely on the Ukrainian people. It is somehow their failure, their inability to properly understand combined arms or whatever. It's national narcissism.

man can you imagine living in a society where the problems are systemic but only individuals are blamed for them and anyone questioning whether the right behavior is being incentivized is pilloried as a pathetic loser whos just jealous of the winners

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

so they were expecting a triumph based on pure will you say?

fanfic insert
Nov 4, 2009

spacetoaster posted:

Someone needs to edit this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7yIzY1BxuI

It's terrifying by the way.

countered by office plants, cardboard boxes and capoeira fighters

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

NATO knew perfectly well that Ukraine didn't have the capability for a successful offense yet pressured them into it anyway. Pretty messed up.

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

VoicesCanBe posted:

NATO knew perfectly well that Ukraine didn't have the capability for a successful offense yet pressured them into it anyway. Pretty messed up.

yep

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

American armies being bogged down in China also means the DPRK reunifies the peninsula and there's nothing in place to set up a government in Saigon after the French lose Dien Bien Phu (or that the French outright lose with American materiel stuck in China). If any kind of KMT rump state survived it would've been surrounded on all sides by hostile communist powers, assuming the US doesn't just lose outright to masses of PLA soldiers fighting people's war on a broad front that's impossible to defend.

was the conversation about making an american intervention in the chinese civil war sound bad because its starting to sound good actually

speng31b
May 8, 2010

VoicesCanBe posted:

NATO knew perfectly well that Ukraine didn't have the capability for a successful offense yet pressured them into it anyway. Pretty messed up.

gotta keep up appearances or the vcs wont keep investing

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CongoJack
Nov 5, 2009

Ask Why, Asshole

Some Guy TT posted:

man can you imagine living in a society where the problems are systemic but only individuals are blamed for them and anyone questioning whether the right behavior is being incentivized is pilloried as a pathetic loser whos just jealous of the winners

(thinking about my wow guild) yeah

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