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# ? Jul 24, 2023 08:27 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 21:15 |
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i'd honestly buy it more if they declared themselves southern, at least there's something to go on there with 'we still kinda speak latin like spain and italy'
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 08:30 |
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Gee I wonder what language that is e: also, I'm "1".
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 08:31 |
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Lmao at Moldova
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 08:53 |
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Tweet for context: https://twitter.com/alexsakalis/status/1683138115232313345 As others have said, they speak a Romance language, so grouping themselves with Southern Europe would make sense. But this is just pathetic.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 10:23 |
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“No one can accuse of of bias if we let Moldova in.”
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 10:47 |
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Clearly the connection via Hungary is because of the glory of Austria-Hungary, therefore Romanian clay is rightfully part of Hungary. Nice of them to say so themselves. not being serious, Hungary can go gently caress themselves with their irredentism Private Speech fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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(9th ward best ward all other wards go home) Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Jul 24, 2023 |
# ? Jul 24, 2023 12:42 |
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Silly nationalist map that invites mockery, not respect. Sensible scientific ordering of Europe, free of bias.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 13:11 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Silly nationalist map that invites mockery, not respect. Turn it a little bit counter clockwise imo. The north will recognise Scotland and be rid of Russia.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 13:16 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:yeah this song is not about the beautiful taiga motherland. A few lines in the second verse are about Russia being pretty. Otherwise it's about how God told Russia to kick rear end. And always uses otyechestvo not rodina for gendering the parentland. Yeah, I guess people by into that stereotype of Russians saying "motherland" so much in pop culture that they think it's actually true, when in fact both are used, basically depending on the circumstances and context you are invoking the coutnry. Also, not a communist/post-communist thing, it's "fatherland" in the Soviet lyrics as well.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 13:23 |
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jeebus bob posted:Turn it a little bit counter clockwise imo. The north will recognise Scotland and be rid of Russia.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 13:26 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Silly nationalist map that invites mockery, not respect. "Scientific" "Free of bias" Makes Cyprus European
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 13:59 |
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Platystemon posted:“No one can accuse of of bias if we let Moldova in.” Moldova's basically just the parts of Romania/Moldovia & Wallachia that Russia took after they beat the turks in 1812. Romanian and Moldovan have an Serb Croatian Urdu Hindi thing going on where the only real difference is the alphabet they use but unlike those languages it was mainly imposed by the Soviets to justify Moldova being soviet with little buy-in from the locals. One of the acts of post-independence Moldova was declaring Moldovan to just be a dialect of Romanian. And one of the big political questions in those countries is the possibility of Romanian Moldovan unification although its a minority opinion in both countries.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 14:04 |
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Torrannor posted:"Scientific"
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Moldova's basically just the parts of Romania/Moldovia & Wallachia that Russia took after they beat the turks in 1812. Romanian and Moldovan have an Serb Croatian Urdu Hindi thing going on where the only real difference is the alphabet they use but unlike those languages it was mainly imposed by the Soviets to justify Moldova being soviet with little buy-in from the locals. One of the acts of post-independence Moldova was declaring Moldovan to just be a dialect of Romanian. And one of the big political questions in those countries is the possibility of Romanian Moldovan unification although its a minority opinion in both countries. They also haven't been using the Cyrillic alphabet to write Romanian since uh like independence.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 14:10 |
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Torrannor posted:"Scientific"
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 14:11 |
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Mare Nostrum non est parvum mare
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 14:13 |
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That's very vascular for a map
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 14:28 |
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Germany is central Europe, but when you include Poland into central Europe, all of a sudden you run out of Europe before you have time to fit much Eastern Europe in so the entire thing ends up lopsided. If they want there to be more central Europe they should bring back Lotharingia.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 14:46 |
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driving me nuts trying to guess the origin and time. who knew about south america but couldn't draw the north African coast?? I'm saying Sevastopol, 1580 edit wait I didn't notice Antarctica. changing my guess to an eight year old in 1982
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 14:54 |
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i say swears online posted:driving me nuts trying to guess the origin and time. who knew about south america but couldn't draw the north African coast?? I'm saying Sevastopol, 1580 Considering no Australia, “Antarctica” may in fact be terra incognita australis
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 14:56 |
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Judgy Fucker posted:Considering no Australia, “Antarctica” may in fact be terra incognita australis Yeah also the fact that it's basically connected to south america. So I'm guessing... early-mid 1500s, it's about on par with the oronce fine map that does the same thing except I think his continents are a bit better, I don't think his suffers from post coital north america.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 15:02 |
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I am wondering why the cartographer has apparently confused Ireland with Ulthuan though. E: actually the entire med is hosed up too but yet still has the most detail... going to echo yeah maybe Sevastopol? It's the least wrong bit I guess.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 15:06 |
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looks like that a conception is happening in kazakhstan
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 15:10 |
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I like my Afro-Eurasia huge, veiny, and throbbing.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 15:14 |
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I'm the long Chukotka replacing all of Canada and looping round to replace Svalbard.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 15:20 |
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I'm the Aral Sea going to fertilize the Caspian. Honestly that one's fun/depressing cos if you look on a modern map you're like "is that lake balkhash?" and then you think "oh no there used to be a big body of water east of the caspian, lol"
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 15:33 |
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i say swears online posted:driving me nuts trying to guess the origin and time. who knew about south america but couldn't draw the north African coast?? I'm saying Sevastopol, 1580 They didn't have complex systems for analyzing the shape of landmasses in those days, there was a lot of guesswork. It's common for people to "unspool" more complex shapes into straight lines, especially if you don't particularly know about certain bays or gulfs. The Waldseemuller map, which is the first recorded case of naming the new world America does a similar thing with north africa. If you don't know that Tunis is the same latitude of the Turkish coast, it seems like a simple idea that it's all a flat line instead of the whole mediterranean going diagonal. Africa in particular has a tendency for a lot of pre-modern maps to get wildly wrong, because everyone back in the day all heard something about a number of rivers and lakes that don't actually exist that they regularly try to draw in.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 15:41 |
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I think it took people a surprisingly long time to figure out where the Nile came from.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 15:46 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:Germany is central Europe, but when you include Poland into central Europe, all of a sudden you run out of Europe before you have time to fit much Eastern Europe in so the entire thing ends up lopsided. Happy now?
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 16:30 |
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OwlFancier posted:I am wondering why the cartographer has apparently confused Ireland with Ulthuan though. i'm glad you noticed too, that motherfucker looks like someone drew the warhammer fantasy map from memory A Buttery Pastry posted:OK, I fixed the map to your specifications: I went to the basin formerly known as the Aral Sea last september remember when there was a sea here? I don't, it's quite depressing Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jul 24, 2023 |
# ? Jul 24, 2023 16:38 |
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Any map that puts Schleswig and Holstein into the same category as Bavaria is fundamentally wrong.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 16:40 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:OK, I fixed the map to your specifications: Missed opportunity to call the Balkans "middle Eastern Europe"
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 16:49 |
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Antigravitas posted:Any map that puts Schleswig and Holstein into the same category as Bavaria is fundamentally wrong.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 16:55 |
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Guavanaut posted:Pull the inner circle in to 500, Slesvig-Holsten becomes Northern Europe, Berlin goes to Eastern Europe as is correct, Bavaria remains Central Europe. Also Barcelona becomes Southern Europe and Cork Western Europe, Belfast joins Scotland in the North though, which will please some people greatly and not others. Would make that one ulster loyalist/scottish nationalist I met extremely happy.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 16:58 |
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OwlFancier posted:ulster loyalist/scottish nationalist …how?
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 17:07 |
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TinTower posted:…how? I have no loving idea, outside of "Northern Ireland joins independent Scotland and together we drive out the hated catholic menace" which I think is what he was angling for. Like he was from NI but lived in Scotland, so I think he was just trying to glue to two together while also hating catholics. Genuinely one of the more cursed political positions i've come across.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 17:10 |
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That actually is interesting. There are plenty of Protestant supremacists in Scotland, but I thought they were usually unionists, just like their Northern Ireland counterparts.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 17:14 |
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Maybe he just hates southerners in general. Or prefers things that are generally north of other things. Ulster loyalist/Scottish nationalist/Juche admirer. "Anglicans are entirely too close to papists" is also likely, but by the time you're at that point it's not that hard to add like DPRK and Lega Nord.
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# ? Jul 24, 2023 17:14 |