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Terrible Opinions posted:Play even one indie game, or heck just a AA game norco came out that year
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Endorph posted:imo its cool that the new gundam ended with a lesbian married couple without making a big deal of it in pressers or anything, its just a thing they did it rules how in the first episode it just drops that any kind of marriage is fine as long as it follows the feudal rules of dueling and literally no one makes note of it.
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Jul 24, 2023 17:15
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i'm playing octopath 2 and one of the characters is a guy who simultaneously wants to be a successful capitalist and also wants to use the powers of capitalism to bring wealth and prosperity to everyone and the bad guy of his storyline is an evil capitalist who wants to hoard all the wealth for himself, and you know what? it's fun to not think about it any deeper than that
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Also lmao at that post basically saying it's bad taste to make fun of Zack Snyder because he writes strong female characters
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Jul 24, 2023 17:16
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GOW Ragnarok could very well be the wokest most anti-capitalist game ever made but I'll never know because I'll never play it because GOW 2018 sucked poo poo
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In this essay I will demonstrate how Tony Hawl's Underground is an allegory for the actions of United Fruit in early 20th century Latin America,
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Pablo Nergigante posted:GOW Ragnarok could very well be the wokest most anti-capitalist game ever made but I'll never know because I'll never play it because GOW 2018 sucked poo poo Also this.
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Jul 24, 2023 17:18
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Rea posted:Is the new Gundam worth watching if you're not already familiar with other Gundam series? I'm very slowly working through G Gundam on the recommendation of a friend but I've been told that's very different from Gundam's usual fare.
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Rea posted:Is the new Gundam worth watching if you're not already familiar with other Gundam series? I'm very slowly working through G Gundam on the recommendation of a friend but I've been told that's very different from Gundam's usual fare. it's also pretty different from gundam's usual fare. give the first couple episodes a shot and see if it grabs you.
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Jul 24, 2023 17:18
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also its only 24 episodes. now this may be why some stuff is rushed but otoh its a lot easier to get someone to sit and watch 24 episodes than 50.
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DaysBefore posted:In this essay I will demonstrate how Tony Hawl's Underground is an allegory for the actions of United Fruit in early 20th century Latin America, That game ruled. I wish I could play it on Switch.
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Jul 24, 2023 17:18
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Some people can't engage with media for poo poo.
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Jul 24, 2023 17:19
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Rea posted:I remember Bioshock being kind of the first vanguard of the "games are art" movement in the late 2000s and looking back on it man that's embarrassing. I played the remastered version in 2021 and while it's an alright FPS with light RPG elements with decent writing for 2007 (at least as far as the criticism of Ayn Rand goes) it's absolutely not what I would prop up for games-as-art. by far the funniest thing about the dumb "are games art" thing is that there were apparently a non zero amount of people whose answer was "games were not art until Bioshock Infinite released"
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Terrible Opinions posted:Play even one indie game, or heck just a AA game they need to play omori and pathologic 2
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Feels Villeneuve posted:by far the funniest thing about the dumb "are games art" thing is that there were apparently a non zero amount of people whose answer was "games were not art until Bioshock Infinite released" they're right
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Endorph posted:mass media stuff can have themes and even well executed ones but you have to approach it from the perspective of the constraints its working within rather than being its prophet here to spread the words of god of war ragnarok to the masses
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Jul 24, 2023 17:20
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Reading articles praising Bioshock Infinite's writing from the time of release is really funny because man, it was really bad. Racism is bad.... but also what if killing racists made them sad? Lot to think about...... Firat game still owns imo because Mr. House is a very fun character to hate
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Jul 24, 2023 17:21
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Bioshock 2 has the drill charge, so it's the only good one
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Jul 24, 2023 17:22
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Also like who even talks about infinite anymore? it was propped up as this insanely important release by the press when it was coming out and then like a year later it was gone.
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Jul 24, 2023 17:23
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yeah the original bioshock is good and the intro is still pretty cool
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Jul 24, 2023 17:23
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playing dead rising 2 with a friend today because he never got to play it then we're gonna do Off The Record, the best game in the series
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Also like who even talks about infinite anymore? it was propped up as this insanely important release by the press when it was coming out and then like a year later it was gone. the dlc was so embarrassing that it scared away most of the remaining defenders so you can’t really get a good argument going anymore
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Sleng Teng posted:peep the one before it lol What's that quote from disco elysium about how capital can defang and turn critique against capitalism into friendly moneymaking art
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Jul 24, 2023 17:24
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Oxxidation posted:I love games like norco, night in the woods and kentucky route zero but leftist/materialist “readings” of most stories suck because they never go further than “capitalism…is bad?” and “cooperation……is good???” The readings don't or the games don't? I've only played NitW but it felt more like it had a vaguely materialist "vibe" about it than an actual analysis of any kind, do people try to read it deeper than that?
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Also like who even talks about infinite anymore? it was propped up as this insanely important release by the press when it was coming out and then like a year later it was gone. I think a lot of people are embarrassed to talk about it because of what they said when it came out. It’s kind of a fun fiasco to play through. Also to go back and read stuff about; there’s probably a pretty funny thread on the forums too from the time.
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Disco Elysium is an Undertale-like
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Rea posted:Is the new Gundam worth watching if you're not already familiar with other Gundam series? I'm very slowly working through G Gundam on the recommendation of a friend but I've been told that's very different from Gundam's usual fare. yeah it's its own universe, and not really referential to other gundam either. watch it imo
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Endorph posted:yeah g-witch rules, the whole thing was made to bring in new fans anyway. it gets a bit rushed towards the end and some plot points get dropped but its a fun ride, and the core emotional beats land. new fans is probably the most significant part of that statement, because a ton of anime-heads (whatever the term is) were getting super mad at it leading to fluff to have to close the thread multiple times and probe people for being weirdos.
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Babe Magnet posted:yeah the original bioshock is good and the intro is still pretty cool IMO Bioshock 1 is a good time up until after you beat Ryan to death, and then after that the game just sort of stumbles around until the bad last boss fight. A lot of the guns kind of leave something to be desired in terms of Video Game Gunfeel but the plasmids are pretty fun. Bees just sort of solve any problem you can throw them at.
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yeah gameplay wise it's definitely still "of its time" but as a whole experience I wouldn't have any problems recommending it
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Army Of the Dead or w/e it was called was one of the worst movies I ever watched, I have no idea how people can think it's one of the best movies of all time and how poo poo likebad camerawork is actually some deep message like the snyder freaks. Did lead to the fart pedo mod dying at least so maybe it's good afterall...
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Heath posted:The readings don't or the games don't? I've only played NitW but it felt more like it had a vaguely materialist "vibe" about it than an actual analysis of any kind, do people try to read it deeper than that? the readings don’t. stuff like nitw’s “hole in the center of everything” monologue can be a really cutting and incisive statement on the existential uncertainty of collapsing material circumstances but you tend not to find them outside of works that set out to confront those themes in the first place I’m talking about attempts to screw on “leftist” analysis to works that obviously didn’t have it in mind, like positing tears of the kingdom is exemplary of a regressive society (source: polygon) Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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The best bit of Bioshock Infinite was Ken Levine firing his entire studio and closing it down so he could go off to write one draft of a Logan's Run remake that never actually got made. As opposed to, you know, leaving the studio and letting someone else take over while he ran around Hollywood. Videogames are basically the Bastard Craft where failed and frustrated creatives are condemned to make up extra credit, so they can ascend a rung up the ladder to the less base mediums of sitcoms or superhero comics or whatever and prove once and for all to their parents that film school wasn't a waste (even if they did drop out).
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I'll go to bat for the ending of Bioshock even though everyone hates it. Killing the cover of Atlas Shrugged is a very funny literal metaphor and the good end with the Little Sisters is a nice refutation of both of Andrew Ryan's beliefs (that all people are inherently selfish, and that you are a slave who can't make your own decisions). Yes it would have been better if they didn't chicken out and made the sacrifice option strictly worse, but it still works!!!
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Army Of the Dead or w/e it was called was one of the worst movies I ever watched, I have no idea how people can think it's one of the best movies of all time and how poo poo likebad camerawork is actually some deep message like the snyder freaks. was going to kill you until i realized you werent talking about army of darkness *sheathes katana*
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how can you not understand the deep nuance of having a zombie movie ending with the song "Zombie" by notable Irish band The Cranberries
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Was TLOU2 bad? Always hesitant to get into games that have critics weeping and applauding
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Dandywalken posted:Was TLOU2 bad? Always hesitant to get into games that have critics weeping and applauding it’s mediocre, which might be worse
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if TLOU2 was truly bad it would at least be funny that so many people are on its hog and it's already getting a remake 3 years after it came out, but it can't even be that
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Babe Magnet posted:if TLOU2 was truly bad it would at least be funny that so many people are on its hog and it's already getting a remake 3 years after it came out, but it can't even be that It's getting a what?
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