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Lostconfused posted:It's just cold war boomer brain. Yeah Activison isnt goi g to rosk potential sales for that
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Battlefield 4 did have China as an antagonist - a hardline communist general overthrows the democratically elected government in a military coup, and allies with Russia to begin invading across Asia, and it's up to the protagonist to rescue the deposed Chinese president and restore him to power This was in 2013, though, and the geopolitical situation was somewhat different
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That's what they always do when they want to make an enemy nation the bad guy without seeming too jingoistic. Mercenaries 1 & 2 have North Korean and Venezuelan coups by hardliners, Modern Warfare did it with Russian ultranationalists, Far Cry did it with not Cuba, etc etc
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Yeah there was a brief couple of years before everyone realized they had to pivot back to Russia as the enemy. The constant vacillation every decade since the 90s really underlines how people in US had no clear idea of what the world should be like now.
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The increasing listlessness of the Obama years is characterized by the CoD games released during his second term: 2013 - Ghosts, in which a near-future South America goes bad (doesn't like america #1 anymore) and takes over the orbital platform America built that can vaporize entire cities (but America only built it for self-defense) and then shockingly uses it to vaporize some American cities. 2014 - Advanced Warfare, in which a near-future digital Kevin Spacey is a combo Black Water/LockMart CEO who decides to start a war between his PMC and the entire world after running the world has already been outsourced to him (???). Also he keeps people in cages in a scene that is meant to be shockingly over the top dystopian evil but actually just looks like the US's real life border detention facilities with a bigger budget. 2015 - Black Ops 3, in which you have to brain dive people after they get brain dived to turn evil but mostly it's just five thousand red glowy eye terminator robots walking at you while you shoot them 2016 - Infinite Warfare, in which Space America is cowardly attacked by Space South America once again using the WMDs that Space America just happened to have built for defensive peaceful purposes only until the bad guys got to the controls for three seconds
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Jul 25, 2023 05:32
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I think people really did believe that history was over and a second Obama term just verified that fact so they had to start making up fantastical sci fi scenarios to give the big beard oakley operators something to do
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The Oldest Man posted:Also he keeps people in cages in a scene that is meant to be shockingly over the top dystopian evil but actually just looks like the US's real life border detention facilities with a bigger budget. but???
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The Oldest Man posted:The increasing listlessness of the Obama years is characterized by the CoD games released during his second term: video games are for children.
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No, playing FNV is praxis!
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Infinite warfare was against space fascist martians, not south americans but i understand how you could confuse them
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Can you guys explain the geopolitical plot of the recent FPS games? I didn't realize they stopped writing realistic stories so many years ago. Battlefield 4 was with a Chinese carrier? That was a pretty mild case of China bad guy. Kind of like RE6 or Mission Impossible 3 they just threw Shanghai into the stories to get more sales. Nothing like the old Red Dawn movie that straight up made Russians the bad guys.
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stephenthinkpad posted:Can you guys explain the geopolitical plot of the recent FPS games? the most recent Call of Duty was about Russian and Iranian-backed ISIS teaming up with Mexican drug cartels to fire cruise missiles into the United States the Call of Duty before that one, set during the Reagan era, was about Soviet spies digging up a nuke buried somewhere in Europe (originally meant to be used by Gladio operatives), and then smuggling it to the US to detonate it there it's just an amalgamation of the fears of the American right-wing (always was)
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gradenko_2000 posted:it's just an amalgamation of the fears of America ftfy
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gradenko_2000 posted:it's just an amalgamation of the fears of the American right-wing (always was) Weka posted:ftfy it's the same picture
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stephenthinkpad posted:Can you guys explain the geopolitical plot of the recent FPS games? No Stephen, I won't
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gradenko_2000 posted:the Call of Duty before that one, set during the Reagan era, was about Soviet spies digging up a nuke buried somewhere in Europe (originally meant to be used by Gladio operatives), and then smuggling it to the US to detonate it there The US smuggled nukes into Europe and they were going to be used to take out the entire western part of the continent. In the last mission you could have helped or stopped that plan.
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Lostconfused posted:Should probably replay the game and refresh your memory I unironically should, actually, yeah thanks
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To be honest I liked the space one, it was weird. They made the most human and emphatic character in the game a robot and at the end of the suicide mission everyone does end up dead, and you're supposed to feel emotional about how everyone had to sacrifice their lives to stop the martian menace.
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In the most recent one the cruise missiles are lost to the Mexican cartel - Russia - ISIS axis of mega-evil by an ooh rah patriotic general who won't let red tape stop him from arming the not-Kurds with said cruise missiles using a blackwater type mercenary group who he then turns on the protagonists later in the most unsurprising plot twist ever. CoD has a long-standing tradition of taking what is just generally accepted and publicly admitted US policy to do evil and attributing it to either a single malevolent actor gone rogue (like digi-Spacey) or just firing the serial numbers off entirely and dropping it on someone else's door step (Russia did the highway of death). The only universally ethical good guys in CoD are the high speed low drag operators who never blow up any hospitals, canoe anyone, or or murder anyone at Fort Benning. They should do a realistic CoD where you spend fifty percent of your time doing HGH and steroids at the gym and the missions are all getting in your lifted pickup to murder someone who can't keep his mouth shut about your cocaine smuggling operation.
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To be fair in the first Modern Warfare the high speed low drag operators were British.
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CoD 1899: where the plot centers around German plans for concentration camps in the Second Boar War, and you as a plucky British soldier must stop them.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Infinite warfare was against space fascist martians, not south americans but i understand how you could confuse them The space fascist martians are called the "Settlement defense front" because they are the militant rebels from earth's extractive resource mining colonies who rebelled during a secession war that happens off screen 30 years prior to the game and is mentioned only obliquely. Even when they're trying to just do a Star Wars Empire bad guy the devs can't stop telling on themselves.
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the primary decision makers on the development team are the united states military so it makes sense
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Lostconfused posted:To be fair in the first Modern Warfare the high speed low drag operators were British. Trabisnikof posted:CoD 1899: where the plot centers around German plans for concentration camps in the Second Boar War, and you as a plucky British soldier must stop them. They should do one set in the 70s in Northern Ireland where the IRA are portrayed as a Catholic ISIS and have gotten their hands on a Russian suitcase nuke via the Vatican, that would be about right
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stephenthinkpad posted:Can you guys explain the geopolitical plot of the recent FPS games? I didn't realize they stopped writing realistic stories so many years ago. the plots of the 2 latest Modern Warfare games are ostensibly a return to "realism", which of course means they're still just propaganda but with a vague veneer of cynicism and half-hearted attempts at moral complexity. I did an effortpost ages ago in the videogames thread about Modern Warfare (2019) but to briefly summarise: - Russia has invaded a fictional Middle Eastern country in response to domestic terrorism by al-Qaeda - Russia does warcrimes in this country like the Highway of Death and gas attacks on civilians almost certainly meant to evoke the alleged Assad attacks - The CIA (that's you) are heroically helping the Moderate Rebels who aesthetically resemble the YPG but have no ideology except being ok with America. Late in the plot the US government randomly decides to designate the Moderate Rebels as terrorists which is mostly just an excuse to raise the stakes by having the protagonists heroically decide to help them anyway - Most of the plot is about tracking down a shipment of Russian chemical weapons stolen by al-Qaeda. Late in the game a Rogue Russian General gets hold of the weapons and you have to stop him doing more war crimes, which involves a CIA paramilitary action somewhere in the former Soviet bloc but it's ok because the protagonists have been disavowed by this point As for Modern Warfare 2 (2022): - Iran is working with al-Qaeda (yes really) so you have to kill General Soleimani in the very first mission (yes really) - Iran and al-Qaeda are working with the Mexican cartels (portrayed as an omnipotent shadow state able to control the Mexican army at will) to smuggle Russian cruise missiles into the US to do some terrorism. The cartels want this because (actual quote) 'as long as there is a War on Terror there will be no real War on Drugs' - The protagonists of the previous game team up with Blackwater and some Good Mexicans to fight the cartel and find the missiles, including a sequence where Blackwater levels several Mexican villages with an AC-130, which this is never brought up again - Blackwater inexplicably decide to double-cross the protagonists and take over the Good Mexicans' base, so the protagonists are disavowed (again). Blackwater does some Fallujah-style war crimes in a Mexican town looking for the main Iranian villain - The big twist is that the cruise missiles are actually American, but were stolen by Russia after the Wagner group ambushed Blackwater somewhere in the Middle East - The protagonists eventually take down Blackwater on behalf of the Good Mexicans and you have to fight Erik Prince by throwing C4 at his tank repeatedly. Then you have to stop the bad Iranian from launching the cruise missiles in Chicago The second game was released in late 2022 but presumably written before the Ukraine war, so it'll be interesting to see what bullshit they come up with for the inevitable third installment e: oh yeah it's worth mentioning how this universe's version of al-Qaeda are specifically described as "anarchist" and not religious. the only discernable ideological tenet they refer to is wanting all foreign powers out of the Middle East, unlike the Moderate Rebels, who are a-ok with JSOC psychos running around and in fact really keen to get hold of more American weapons double edit: oh yeah and in the first game you help Vilerat escape Benghazi Gato has issued a correction as of 17:16 on Jul 25, 2023 |
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Modern Warfare II: Realism EditGato posted:As for Modern Warfare 2 (2022): quote:The second game was released in late 2022 but presumably written before the Ukraine war, so it'll be interesting to see what bullshit they come up with for the inevitable third installment
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1682697242296336384 TempleOS is getting a new update, huh?
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These MW plots are hilarious. Can't wait to see EA and Activeblizzard falling themselves over trying to make a video game Prigozhin and not nearly as funny as the real one.
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stephenthinkpad posted:These MW plots are hilarious. Can't wait to see EA and Activeblizzard falling themselves over trying to make a video game Prigozhin and not nearly as funny as the real one. Can't wait to successfully defend Melitopol from the Russians with not-Azov
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The Oldest Man posted:The terrorist attack hits Chicago; you have to kill all the Blackwater guys to make sure the public never finds out where they got the missiles. The final mission involves working with a neo-neo-al-Qaeda group that you're training to take down the old neo-al-Qaeda group. You know al-Qaeda-3 aren't going to turn on America because these new guys all wearing operator style gear with molle velcro patches, customized AR-15-style carbines instead of AKs, and they have oakleys just like you lol this last part actually sort of happens - the al-Qaeda fighters you're up against have (seemingly infinite) modern weapons and armour provided by the Russians (or possibly looted off Blackwater). the protagonists are dismayed by this, presumably because (going back to what was said upthread) it's their god-given right to only get shot at by barefoot people with AKs The Oldest Man posted:Also the campaign DLC is set at fort benning and involves hogtying a guy, stripping him naked, and beating him to death in the woods for those who haven't played, you actually do get to torture a guy at a black site in MW2019. that's not new for CoD (it happens in Black Ops and probably other ones I don't remember), but what is new is that the game lets you chicken out and wait outside if you want, but if you do the badass SAS dude will tell you you're a pussy but yes, can't wait for the universally praised, harrowing first-person sequence where you stagger around in the woods dying after a drug deal gone wrong, hearing your buddies talking about how to make it look like an OD
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Gato posted:for those who haven't played, you actually do get to torture a guy at a black site in MW2019. I meant some random Army supply clerk who was taking a bigger cut of the SEALs drug smuggling money than they wanted
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KomradeX posted:Can't wait to successfully defend Melitopol from the Russians with not-Azov fully customize your operator with swastikas and black suns to scare their enemies
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stephenthinkpad posted:These MW plots are hilarious. Can't wait to see EA and Activeblizzard falling themselves over trying to make a video game Prigozhin and not nearly as funny as the real one. yeah kojima's not making any more metal gear games these days
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