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My new HoF rule- only cheaters get in. If you aren’t cheating you don’t have what it takes to get in.
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They should put Beltran in but just someone absolutely go to town on some trash cans while he's trying to make his speech.
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Jul 26, 2023 16:15
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things have sure changed from when everyone was teary eyed from his player's tribune article also the marlins being completely forgettable for so long is really loving me up on immaculate grid today
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Jul 26, 2023 16:22
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Jul 26, 2023 16:23
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Beltran likely deserves to be in the hall but he very much could get Clemens'd/Bonds'd/Schilling'd though he is starting ahead of all of them (high 40's instead of high 30's), and the 10-year limit is in place at the start of his tenure.
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Jul 26, 2023 16:28
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personally i think everyone who was crazy good at baseball that isn't cap anson should be in the hall, to include can bangers and needle bangers
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Jul 26, 2023 16:49
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maffew buildings posted:personally i think everyone who was crazy good at baseball that isn't cap anson should be in the hall, to include can bangers and needle bangers I think if you're a lovely person you should have that on your plaque. Jack Morris gets his bust but every pitcher he hosed over on his way up gets to write an insult under the blurb about Inning Eating Barry Bonds gets a plaque but also is tarnished for being a union buster. Roger Clemens gets to be one of the all time best pitchers immortalized but he isn't allowed within 200 feet of the podium
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Forrest on Fire posted:I think if you're a lovely person you should have that on your plaque. also Schilling can get in only if he personally pays back all the money he stole from the people of Rhode Island and even then, only after he is dead and gone
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Jul 26, 2023 17:00
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Wait what is the Barry Bonds story?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Wait what is the Barry Bonds story? "In November 2003, Bonds announced his withdrawal from a joint licensing agreement upheld by the Major League Baseball Players Association (MLBPA), a de facto union. Targeting the sacred home run milestones of Willie Mays, Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron, Bonds bet on himself to earn millions from exclusive deals with baseball card manufacturers and apparel merchandisers. Ever the iconoclast, Barry wanted full control over his intellectual property, denying the use of his name, voice, likeness, batting stance and autograph to entities that deigned to pay a separate fee." https://ryanferguson.co.uk/blogs/blog/why-was-barry-bonds-not-in-video-games
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Jul 26, 2023 17:14
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I vaguely remember that but that’s really minor IMO Especially compared to the domestic issues he has had in the past
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FlamingLiberal posted:I vaguely remember that but that’s really minor IMO Oh he also has a few recently surfaced abuse allegations! I only knew of one. Yeah Bonds is a loving awful person. Lots to apologize for. None of that changes the ability demonstrated with a bat, just makes it kind of secondary in the discussion.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:17
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Intruder posted:Beltran is a 70 career bWAR player and only 1.4 of that was during his cheating years and he was -.8 bWAR in 2017 Again I don’t have any clue how much the writers care about the banging scheme, but just because it came at the end of his career doesn’t mean they won’t use it to keep him out.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:25
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Shinjobi posted:I miss Beltre every goddamn day Same, friend. The ugly new ballpark is made worse by the old one still standing right there next to it look beautiful as ever. Gotta have AC though. I've been to more summer games this year alone than I had in the last 10+ years of the old ballpark.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:27
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Allow Carlos Beltran into the Hall, but only if his plaque is a picture of him staring at a curveball down the middle to lose the NLCS.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:33
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From a vibe perspective I don't think the 2017 Astros are viewed anywhere close as bad as steroid users in the eyes of baseball writers. Right or wrong. There were 30% or so of writers who essentially said no steroid user will ever get in. I just don't see that same level of vitriol.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:33
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Jul 26, 2023 17:34
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Intruder posted:Beltran is a 70 career bWAR player and only 1.4 of that was during his cheating years and he was -.8 bWAR in 2017 The majority of the guys who are being kept out of the hall isn't because people think they played at a HOF level because of cheating.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:39
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Poque posted:Let's list five shortstops and only talk about offense. Dansby currently leads the Cubs in WAR Yea, I'm not really worried about Carlos Correa, either. Good defense and an average bat for the position is hard to find, it's ok to get it at a premium (And the Twins got him at a fraction of his value so...). Having a down year doesn't mean his whole career is going to be this going forward, love everyone constantly giving into SSS to craft narratives. Also, reminder that short stops collectively have an OPS of .711. That tweet is histrionic garbage. In short: Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Seager, Lindor and Swanson are 3 of the top 4 SS by fWAR.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:41
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I am so happy that "Cool" Kyle Hendricks is mostly good again.
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Kirios posted:From a vibe perspective I don't think the 2017 Astros are viewed anywhere close as bad as steroid users in the eyes of baseball writers. Right or wrong. And those writers are moronic trash now that the steroid commish was fast tracked into the hall. Flat out, the game threw its moral high ground out the window in a pretty big way. Stop fighting it and showing your whole rear end.
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No Safe Word posted:Beltran likely deserves to be in the hall but he very much could get Clemens'd/Bonds'd/Schilling'd though he is starting ahead of all of them (high 40's instead of high 30's), and the 10-year limit is in place at the start of his tenure.
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Milovan Drecun posted:Yea, I'm not really worried about Carlos Correa, either. Good defense and an average bat for the position is hard to find, it's ok to get it at a premium (And the Twins got him at a fraction of his value so...). Having a down year doesn't mean his whole career is going to be this going forward, love everyone constantly giving into SSS to craft narratives. He's also still 28 for most of this season.
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rickiep00h posted:He's also still 28 for most of this season. Yea, that's a really important part of it too!
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Shinjobi posted:I miss Beltre every goddamn day
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Jul 26, 2023 18:59
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At least twice in the past week I’ve wanted to use Beltre for HoF Immaculate Grid boxes but he’s not in the HoF yet so I couldn’t
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Jul 26, 2023 19:05
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Intruder posted:Beltran is a 70 career bWAR player and only 1.4 of that was during his cheating years and he was -.8 bWAR in 2017 Does Beltran go in as a Met or a Royal or a blank hat guy? He was slightly better for the Mets but played about the same amount for both teams. (also, he played for the Cardinals for two years? I have absolutely no memory of that at all).
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Jul 26, 2023 19:06
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Got my first .3% guy in Immaculate Grid today.  Thank you Ken Harvey for making an All-Star Game
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Jul 26, 2023 19:08
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bawfuls posted:At least twice in the past week I’ve wanted to use Beltre for HoF Immaculate Grid boxes but he’s not in the HoF yet so I couldn’t I'm so loving sick of seeing Royals and Marlins in like every grid 
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Jul 26, 2023 19:10
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I got my first Immaculate ever. I don't cheat at it so this is a pretty big milestone for my increasingly ADHD-addled brain. 191 rarity score, too. I'd like to thank the Marlins for harboring a litany of players I barely remember but for some reason played for them back when I was really into fantasy baseball.
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Exodor posted:Got my first .3% guy in Immaculate Grid today. I'm assuming everyone in the thread used Mike Fiers as the A's/Astros guy.
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howe_sam posted:I'm assuming everyone in the thread used Mike Fiers as the A's/Astros guy. heck naw Kempin ain't easy
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No Safe Word posted:heck naw Kempin ain't easy That's who I used. And Dan Haren for A's/Marlins.
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I didn't get immaculate today, but I am very proud of pulling Braden Looper out of my rear end for Marlins/Mets. If they were ever a Cub, then I'm far more likely to know what other teams they've been on, hence why I did Soler for Marlins/Royals.
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Jul 26, 2023 19:46
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howe_sam posted:I'm assuming everyone in the thread used Mike Fiers as the A's/Astros guy. Miguel Tejada
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Woowww the Giants called up Marco Luciano. I mean there's no way he's ready but if this means I don't have to watch anymore David Villar at bats I'm for it.
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Jul 26, 2023 19:56
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My A's Astros answer used to have a funny blog him being fired for being an anti Sabr dummy.
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https://twitter.com/pcaldera/status/1684277563705679886 Pretty sure Boone just uses a RNG to come up with these lineups. Also LOL @ a 300 million dollar team having this kind of lineup.
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Jul 26, 2023 20:02
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/pcaldera/status/1684277563705679886 Boone thinks RNG is advanced metrics and shuns them. He's using the trusted eye test (putting names in positions to fail miserably) and Trusting His Gut.
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