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giogadi posted:The last thing a rhythm game should do is keep interrupting your rhythm flow with cutscenes. Actually, if the cutscenes were also synced to the rhythm like a music video or something, that might’ve actually worked QuickTime events. You’ve literally asked for quicktime events.
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galagazombie posted:QuickTime events. You’ve literally asked for quicktime events. Not necessarily, just have the beat going on in the background and have the action sync to it so it never drops even during the cutscene. That doesn't necessarily require any player input. I thought it was fine as it was, but the idea is actually pretty cool
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Wasn't that the entire premise of Parappa the Rapper
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roomtone posted:i started hifi rush last night. gameplay with the music syncing is great etc, animation is very nice, but the game's dialogue actually make me chuckle about 5 times in an hour. some were trite but overall it's got a really fun tone. usually with cheerful games like this, the writing is just so bland it washes over me, but this feels like they put some effort into the comedy and it brings the thing to life. When a game makes me feel like I've played it for 5 minutes in the first hour I come to the conclusion that it's poo poo. I really wish games would stop doing that. Oh yeah and Bethesda sucks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko8khiV3C4Y Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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Pokemon sleep is the best Pokemon game because you don't actually have to do anything to play it.
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roomtone posted:i started hifi rush last night. gameplay with the music syncing is great etc, animation is very nice, but the game's dialogue actually make me chuckle about 5 times in an hour. some were trite but overall it's got a really fun tone. usually with cheerful games like this, the writing is just so bland it washes over me, but this feels like they put some effort into the comedy and it brings the thing to life. HiFi Rush is really interesting because it basically was one guy's passion project. Shinji Mikami (RE1/4 director, founder of Tango Gameworks) wanted to nurture new talent in the company, and as a result let John Johanas direct The Evil Within 2. That turned out well, so when Johanas pitched what eventually became HiFi Rush he was given full creative control to just go for it. I think that probably was also why it localized well. It's a Japanese production, but directed and written by a westerner who took a lot of inspiration/blatant ripoffs from western media like comic books, Twin Peaks, etc.
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Has anybody played a game and thought “man this gameplay is soooo good, but I wish there were more cutscenes” Not being rhetorical btw - I’ve never felt this way and wanna know if anybody else has
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giogadi posted:Has anybody played a game and thought “man this gameplay is soooo good, but I wish there were more cutscenes”
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giogadi posted:Has anybody played a game and thought “man this gameplay is soooo good, but I wish there were more cutscenes” Parasite eve comes to mind 
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Good point actually. Back in the day FMVs were the COOLEST poo poo and I’d lose it when I got to another pre-rendered cutscene in a jrpg as a kid
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giogadi posted:Has anybody played a game and thought “man this gameplay is soooo good, but I wish there were more cutscenes” Metal Gear Solid 2. There just weren't enough cutscenes for me.
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giogadi posted:Has anybody played a game and thought “man this gameplay is soooo good, but I wish there were more cutscenes” Yeah me, with pretty much every game I played between 1997 and 2004. Couldn't get enough of that poo poo for some reason. Sometimes I would just watch the FF7 and Diablo 2 cutscenes on their own for enjoyment.
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Cutscene Watching is nearly unfathomable to me because nothing will ever approach the majesty of the opening cinematic to Dawn of War.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Cutscene Watching is nearly unfathomable to me because nothing will ever approach the majesty of the opening cinematic to
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Actually the wow intro kicked insane amounts of rear end too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlVSJ0AvZe0
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giogadi posted:Has anybody played a game and thought “man this gameplay is soooo good, but I wish there were more cutscenes” Playing Lunar Silver Star Story Complete had me wishing that they did more voiced bits. The first couple FMV and voiced segments of that game tricked me into thinking Alex was gonna be a real character with a personality who would talk to the other party members.
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giogadi posted:Good point actually. Back in the day FMVs were the COOLEST poo poo and I’d lose it when I got to another pre-rendered cutscene in a jrpg as a kid Yeah thinking about it this tracks, I stopped watching cutscenes around the time they started happening in-game. There's something uncanny about video game character animation that has never meshed well with 'sit back and watch' to me
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deep dish peat moss posted:Yeah thinking about it this tracks, I stopped watching cutscenes around the time they started happening in-game. There's something uncanny about video game character animation that has never meshed well with 'sit back and watch' to me There might be something to that, but for me personally I think the important factor was that I used to be 14 years old and now I’m not
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sebmojo posted:Actually the wow intro kicked insane amounts of rear end too Honestly this still looks really good somehow. We definitely need more sickass CGI intros in games again. On another note, its funny to see Souls youtubers force themselves into caring about Armoured Core, despite the fact that its been around for a million years and they've never given a poo poo until it was relevant to the content on their channel. Even if they don't like it they're going to pretend they do.
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Caesar Saladin posted:Honestly this still looks really good somehow. We definitely need more sickass CGI intros in games again. I was imagining elden ring with that oorah ace combat background dialogue
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giogadi posted:There might be something to that, but for me personally I think the important factor was that I used to be 14 years old and now I’m not It's the damndest thing, all of my favorite media just got worse around 2004-2005.
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My favorite time for cutscenes is between 94 and Diablo 2. Nightmare fuel playdough people trying to animate and FMVs with bad (but good!) acting. That CD is 600 MB we gotta add something to this 10 MB game! Diablo 2 voice acting and sound design elevated those cutscenes into movie quality for me. And MGS and Half Life proved you're better off doing it in game anyway.
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The Diablo 2 cutscenes fuckin slapped The wow opening cinematic was published online as basically a commercial for the game, it was a really well-made cutscene and I think it wound up being pretty effective. They've made a lot of pretty impressive animations actually, some of the Overwatch stuff was really good too
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I'm (SUUUUPER slowly) playing through Cyberpunk, and I really love all the bits where I'm not shooing at someone. People KEEP telling me the gunplay gets easy, I'm at the bit where we're planning to jump onto some guy's float, which I'm given to believe is quite far in, and I've respecced everything into trying to make my guns do damage, and STILL my guns don't do any damage. This game is fuckin' poo poo. ANYWAY, more cutscenes. Also, the opening cinematic from Dawn of War (the 1st one) is up there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBgXH7eyRo4 It's probably as good as Astartes. (Which if you haven't watched, just, loving... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A watch it. Ignore the request to watch the OG video first, GW shat the bed and shut it down because they are loving morons). I get these are both 40k vids, I PROMISE you don't have to be a warham to think they're great though.
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Back when the first Dawn of War released, I'd never heard of Warhammer and I had no interest in playing DoW... Right up until I saw the intro. Fully sick. I don't even remember the context of how I saw the video, because the game is a year older than YouTube. Maybe a friend had a copy? In any event, I bought the game by the strength of the intro alone, with my pitiful paycheck waiting tables in high school, and it was worth every penny.
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!Klams posted:I'm (SUUUUPER slowly) playing through Cyberpunk, and I really love all the bits where I'm not shooing at someone. People KEEP telling me the gunplay gets easy, I'm at the bit where we're planning to jump onto some guy's float, which I'm given to believe is quite far in, and I've respecced everything into trying to make my guns do damage, and STILL my guns don't do any damage. This game is fuckin' poo poo. ANYWAY, more cutscenes. Just specc fully into
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Archer666 posted:Just specc fully into Oh, foreal? Man. I've made this point like 12 times in various places and everyone's always just said "NAH FAM, DEM GUNS GET BARE PENG LATE GAME INNIT, TRUST" or something similar. I wish someone had let me know this earlier! Thank you!
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I played Cyberpunk a year after it came out and speced into hacking, and both my hacks and my guns were one shotting people. The tier of gun made a huge difference though. I think they've also totally rebalanced the game since then so maybe nothing anyone says will make sense!
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giogadi posted:Has anybody played a game and thought “man this gameplay is soooo good, but I wish there were more cutscenes” mgsV roomtone fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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roomtone posted:mgsV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87YXRvfMDlM
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!Klams posted:Oh, foreal? Man. I've made this point like 12 times in various places and everyone's always just said "NAH FAM, DEM GUNS GET BARE PENG LATE GAME INNIT, TRUST" or something similar. I wish someone had let me know this earlier! Thank you! Hacking is one hit kills from range that can extend to other enemies to also one hit kill them Melee can be one hit kills and block bullets Heavy Machine Guns barf damage and obliterate all enemies Can't vouch for anything else.
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!Klams posted:I'm (SUUUUPER slowly) playing through Cyberpunk, and I really love all the bits where I'm not shooing at someone. People KEEP telling me the gunplay gets easy, I'm at the bit where we're planning to jump onto some guy's float, which I'm given to believe is quite far in, and I've respecced everything into trying to make my guns do damage, and STILL my guns don't do any damage. This game is fuckin' poo poo. ANYWAY, more cutscenes. ya the gunplay gets easy when you max out on purple-rarity defense mods, dump the lovely guns, and use a samurai sword
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giogadi posted:Has anybody played a game and thought “man this gameplay is soooo good, but I wish there were more cutscenes” I really love cutscenes and think they do a lot for pacing and just making games more chill. I love getting a chance to have a little break and cutscenes still feel like I'm getting some type of reward. In Kingdom Hearts 3, I wanted "more cutscenes" but in a literal sense. The structure was off compared to KH2. You'd get a few little tiny cutscenes in each world, and then once you were done with the world you would get like 20-40 minutes of uninterrupted cutscenes. This sucked for me. The give and take between gameplay and cutscenes is important and they can make each other better, but when you're having to watch a tv episode-length cutscene without warning while you want to play it sucks. KH2 has 2-10 minute cutscenes happen every 30 minutes or so, and it just feels much better and easier to focus on because you know you won't have to be watching for so long.
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Xenogears needed more FMV cutscenes and another year of work on its script.
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Xenogears should be remastered so that the 2nd disc gets big CGI cutscenes to tell the story. The cutscenes should consist entirely of lovingly rendered Fei or Ellie sitting in a chair talking.
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I actually thought that Da Chair Z0ne was a nice tempo shift and break from the rest of the game, but parts of it are inexcusable.
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I think we can all agree that the appropriate place for the cutscene is after the boss fight. Cut scenes before a boss fight, even skippable ones, are a mortal sin 
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The boss fight should be a cut scene. It's your reward after playing through a bunch of crap to watch a bit of movie.
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Vampire Panties posted:I think we can all agree that the appropriate place for the cutscene is after the boss fight. This is Senator Armstrong erasure.
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