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Eureka is inspired by all of the old school MMO mechanics that only exist to make people suffer. It's full of unmarked quests, unexplained mechanics, and sleeping dragons that wake up and kill you if you move to quickly next to them. You lose exp if you die. Much of your time is spent waiting for bosses to spawn so you're killing trash mobs to trigger them while arguing with everyone else in Shout chat. If you're going alone it's a miserable slog, if you find a group of helpful, knowledgeable players it's a lot of fun (if you have the right brand of brainworms) and there's discords for doing Eureka poo poo and organizing Baldesian Arsenal raids. You have to do all of Eureka for a relic weapon.
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Yeah, I poked around Eureka for an hour or two and then Krile was all 'yeah, you gotta go... up there... somewhere? Northwest? iunno!' and I looked in the general northwest area for a couple of minutes and then wandered off, never to return. I guess I could ask people to help me do it, but if I'm gonna have help from other people, there's a lot of other stuff I'd rather do.
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Jul 26, 2023 10:26
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Jonny 290 posted:correct me if i'm wrong, but if i only sge my only relic option is the EW one right Relics yes, but there are some glowy weapons available with theming for some of the Extreme trial fights. Not usually too expensive on the market board, either. I do wish they'd backport weapons more than one expansion, though. Imagine Sage waving around four Ifrit horns or a set of Garuda/Bismarck/Suzaku wings.
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Jul 26, 2023 10:40
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I woul say the first Eureka zone is easy enough to do if you want a glowy weapon or dyeable AF gear. Doing the whole thing is a commitment.
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Jul 26, 2023 16:26
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Spuzzz posted:I woul say the first Eureka zone is easy enough to do if you want a glowy weapon or dyeable AF gear. Doing the whole thing is a commitment. Note that if you do want to, something that typically does not get mentioned in all the "oh but eureka is so easy and fun and *fart*" bloviating is that there's a special chestpiece you can get that makes the experience way less miserable. Physical jobs get a "Kirin's Osode" by buying two Cryptic Seals from the MB; casters get a "Vermilion Cloak" by buying three Damascene Cloth. There's a dude on the pier that you go to Eureka on called "Nostalgic Fellow" that sells these to you. The Elemental Power stat they have dramatically increases your power in Eureka specifically, and it's pretty much a must-buy if you're getting started and do not want the experience to be similar to taking a rasp to your genitals.
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Jul 26, 2023 16:49
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Kyrosiris posted:Note that if you do want to, something that typically does not get mentioned in all the "oh but eureka is so easy and fun and *fart*" bloviating is that there's a special chestpiece you can get that makes the experience way less miserable. People bring up that everytime Eurkea does man lol.
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Jul 26, 2023 16:50
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YggiDee posted:Eureka is inspired by all of the old school MMO mechanics that only exist to make people suffer. It's full of unmarked quests, unexplained mechanics, and sleeping dragons that wake up and kill you if you move to quickly next to them. You lose exp if you die. Much of your time is spent waiting for bosses to spawn so you're killing trash mobs to trigger them while arguing with everyone else in Shout chat. If you're going alone it's a miserable slog, if you find a group of helpful, knowledgeable players it's a lot of fun (if you have the right brand of brainworms) and there's discords for doing Eureka poo poo and organizing Baldesian Arsenal raids. You have to do all of Eureka for a relic weapon. Yeah this, Eureka is a ton of fun imho but for Hydaelyn's sake please do it as apart of a group
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Jul 26, 2023 17:37
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YggiDee posted:(Eureka) If you're going alone it's a miserable slog, if you find a group of helpful, knowledgeable players it's a lot of fun (if you have the right brand of brainworms) I originally completed Eureka in 2020 but I started going in again a few months ago, and have been having a blast. There are a few people I helped out in early zones that made it into BA parties I've been in so I felt like a proud mentor (real mentor, not an XIV mentor) seeing them progress all the way through
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Jul 26, 2023 17:49
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Feldegast42 posted:Yeah this, Eureka is a ton of fun imho but for Hydaelyn's sake please do it as apart of a group
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Jul 26, 2023 18:06
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How long on average would it take to get the first shiny stage of the Eureka relic weapon starting from scratch?
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Jul 26, 2023 18:26
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e:read that wrong
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Feldegast42 posted:Yeah this, Eureka is a ton of fun imho but for Hydaelyn's sake please do it as apart of a group Counterpoint: if you're looking for a source of abnegation, where you can just zone out and do something that you're not really paying attention to, soloing in Eureka is GREAT for that. The mob density is off the charts so you can just grind and grind and grind without needing to find another spot until you level. There are people who want to optimize the heck out of everything and do only the most efficient route because they don't like the leveling part, and that's fine, but there's also people who think that if they don't like it then nobody likes it and will yell at folks for "doing it wrong". Leveling Eureka and Blue Mage has had me encounter some really annoying people who don't even ask "do you want a hand" they just start barking orders. Bruceski fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jul 26, 2023 |
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Jul 26, 2023 18:42
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bewilderment posted:Side content you can mostly ignore: Gold saucer is cool and good and very important.
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Jul 26, 2023 21:08
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I think Eureka is fun when you're at or near the max level for a zone and you can group up with some randos spawning and killing all the NMs, but it sucks when you're new to a zone and most of the NMs are too dangerous to get to and/or give you almost no exp because you're too low level for them
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Jul 26, 2023 21:14
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Relyssa posted:Gold saucer is cool and good and very important.  Also because you're limited in how much you can do in a single day/week by the passage of actual, IRL time, it's not a huge horrendous timesink like Eureka or relic grinding are.
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Jul 26, 2023 21:21
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Mr. Neutron posted:How long on average would it take to get the first shiny stage of the Eureka relic weapon starting from scratch? if you join an organization like krile krew, probably about 8 hours.
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girl dick energy posted:
we can get someone elvl 0 to elvl 60 in eureka in about 8 hours. i wouldn't exactly call it a huge horrendous timesink unless you're going about it in the worst possible way (afking while waiting for other people to prep NMs for you to level)
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Jul 26, 2023 23:53
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But can you carry my rear end through BA
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Jul 27, 2023 01:17
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There is plenty of rear end to carry and plenty of people wanting to carry rear end
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Jul 27, 2023 01:24
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GloomMouse posted:But can you carry my rear end through BA no but ABBA on aether http://discord.gg/FFXIVABBA or THL on primal can http://discord.gg/thehelplines they simplify it to the point that people run it for fun. 95% of attempts clear. it's no worse than any synced extreme content to complete.
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Jul 27, 2023 01:26
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I can thoroughly recommend ABBA, they basically give a guided tour of the Baldesian Arsenal and there are people in the discord whose sole purpose and joy in life is either explaining or doing BA runs.
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Jul 27, 2023 01:38
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all but the last boss of baldesion arsenal die before they start doing the real big boy mechanics, and every run i've joined gives a 25 minute crash course on the final boss and then still gives comprehensive call-outs during it. most people can, and many do, clear BA completely blind
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Jul 27, 2023 11:32
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I've only done BA runs through Primal's The Help Lines but their "Learning Runs" still have like a 90% chance of clearing, and that estimate might still be low. There are enough veterans helping out on each run that it takes a lot of things going wrong to not clear.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:08
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this entire Hildibrand questline is loving incredible lol
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Jul 27, 2023 18:09
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That Little Demon posted:this entire Hildibrand questline is loving incredible lol From what I remember the devs have legitimately talked about using Hildibrand to push the limits of their facial animation tech, and that work pays off much later in the MSQ.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:12
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ARR Hildebrand gets long in the tooth because of the sheer amount of quests for each patch but from HW on they become way better paced.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:18
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Alexander raids music loving slaps and the questline itself is one of examples how much better HW is compared to ARR.
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Jul 27, 2023 19:49
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Minions that sit on your shoulder = mega win. just got puff of darkness from world of darkness. awesome
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Jul 27, 2023 20:58
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That Little Demon posted:Minions that sit on your shoulder = mega win
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Jul 27, 2023 21:00
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If you're a lalafell they sit on top of your head
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Jul 27, 2023 21:02
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That Little Demon posted:Minions that sit on your shoulder = mega win. just got puff of darkness from world of darkness. awesome ive been running puff for like a year and a half until i got wind-up mystel. Big agree
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Jul 27, 2023 21:07
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The newest MSQ level 90 dungeon gives a puffin that sits on your shoulder and I may never use another minion again
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Jul 27, 2023 21:15
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That Little Demon posted:Minions that sit on your shoulder = mega win. just got puff of darkness from world of darkness. awesome There is a Wind-up Nanamo available from that Achievement Vendor in Gridania. Not only will she sit on your shoulder, you can watch her climb up you to get there when you do the /beckon.
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Jul 27, 2023 21:18
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BlazetheInferno posted:There is a Wind-up Nanamo available from that Achievement Vendor in Gridania. nice
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Jul 27, 2023 21:42
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Yeah non flying minions climb up your side or your back when they sit on your shoulder. There's a few flying minions that will perch without /beckon but that usually means they do it independently, outside of your control. Which can be rough when you're trying to take a pirate screenshot and your parrot just won't behave.
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Jul 27, 2023 21:59
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Kwyndig posted:Yeah non flying minions climb up your side or your back when they sit on your shoulder. There's a few flying minions that will perch without /beckon but that usually means they do it independently, outside of your control. Which can be rough when you're trying to take a pirate screenshot and your parrot just won't behave. Is there a list anywhere of minions that will perch on you without you having to do anything?
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Relyssa posted:Is there a list anywhere of minions that will perch on you without you having to do anything? Midgardsormr (independent) Bluebird (independent & loyal) Baby Opo-Opo (loyal) Nutkin (loyal) Owlet (loyal) Gaelikitten (independent & loyal) Lesser Panda (independent & loyal) Hunting Hawk (independent & loyal) Shalloweye (independent) Morpho (independent) Road Sparrow (independent) Koala Joey (compulsive) Dragonet (loyal) Ohl Deeh (loyal) Succubus (independent) Puff of Darkness (independent & loyal) Garuda (loyal) Nanamo (loyal) Silver Dasher (independent) Gull (independent & loyal) Tight Beaked Parrot (independent) Bacon Bits (loyal) Meerkat (loyal) Petit Pteranodon (independent) Scarlet Peacock (loyal) White Whittret (independent) and probably more that they've added since last year!
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Jul 27, 2023 22:16
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The Gaelikitten also has a very intense "never talk to me or my WoL again" stare on the shoulder, which is really good
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Jul 27, 2023 22:19
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Frida Call Me posted:Midgardsormr (independent) Thank you! Why are some listed as both independent and loyal? I thought they could only be one or the other.
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Jul 27, 2023 22:19
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If they're loyal that usually means they'll take commands. So you can /beckon them.
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