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Handles Are Dumb posted:So I've browsed the last few pages of this thread and read the thread title, and it seems like general consensus is the pi doesn't have very good value right now? It's 2023, you have tons of computers in your house already that are on 24/7. Some of them, like your router or your NAS can run DNS black holes.
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I had a pihole but ended up going to nextdns just to free up the pi for homelab fiddling and it is less likely nextdns will go down than a pi running a vital service for my network. It did lock up once and caused some headaches, albeit fairly minor. Also I like how nextdns works on your phone or other mobile devices even if you’re not on your home network.
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Jul 27, 2023 08:01
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I already run pfsense and a few other VMs on a Lenovo tiny m93p, firing up an LXC with pi hole took all of five minutes...
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Jul 27, 2023 09:45
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Handles Are Dumb posted:So I've browsed the last few pages of this thread and read the thread title, and it seems like general consensus is the pi doesn't have very good value right now? Pis still have good value if you can get one for MSRP prices. Like, as I just mentioned a zero 2 W can do the Pihole thing just fine as is $15. The problem is, you can't get them for that. The problem is, you can't get them for MSRP without a lot of hassle. The Pi shortage never ended. If you have no tech skills, use NextDNS like everyone else said. If you do have tech skills, or want a project to learn them, there are a zillion not-Pis available for reasonable prices. The libre le potato is $30 and pretty much the same as a 3B+. But the problem with a not-Pi is you don't have the OS support of Raspberry. And all the turn-key projects like pihole make images for the Pi. So you'll need to learn to install and configure linux to make it work.
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Jul 27, 2023 13:48
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Klyith posted:Pis still have good value if you can get one for MSRP prices. Like, as I just mentioned a zero 2 W can do the Pihole thing just fine as is $15. The problem is, you can't get them for that. The problem is, you can't get them for MSRP without a lot of hassle. The Pi shortage never ended. Fwiw I went with the le potato for a camera project and their armbian image worked great, but I am comfortable working with the command line and have all the tools I need at this point. I wouldn’t give the le potato to someone unless they were in direct contact with someone who could help them through some of the little issues they’ll encounter.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:13
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Klyith posted:Pis still have good value if you can get one for MSRP prices. Like, as I just mentioned a zero 2 W can do the Pihole thing just fine as is $15. The problem is, you can't get them for that. The problem is, you can't get them for MSRP without a lot of hassle. The Pi shortage never ended. It's not very fast, but several places have the first Pi Zero W in stock for $15, and it'll still do fine for Pi hole.
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Jul 27, 2023 14:37
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At time of writing rpilocator.com says there are pi zeros and pi 4 8gb, assuming USA and too many to list for the UK Over the last week there been every version of the 4 and even some CM4s. Zero 2s as well. Unless you need a specific model right now then they are much much easier to get at rrp from official sellers. The drought isn't over, but it has definitely started
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Jul 27, 2023 14:47
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Inept posted:It's not very fast, but several places have the first Pi Zero W in stock for $15, and it'll still do fine for Pi hole. MSRP for the old 0W is $10, I got one for 10€ before the pandemic. And 0s for 5€.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:20
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Adolf Glitter posted:At time of writing rpilocator.com says there are pi zeros and pi 4 8gb, assuming USA and too many to list for the UK Rpilocator also have a twitter feed. Pishop had 200 units in stock 17 hours ago, and none now. Stock of the popular modes disappears real fast. I'd say needing to camp out on a website refreshing stock lists is a lot of hassle. I didn't look at the zero W though, only the zero 2. A zero W would also work. (I didn't know the zero w was still a thing.)
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Jul 27, 2023 15:59
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Supposedly my SQFMI Beepy kit is in the mail… so stoked to have something to use my Zero W in when it gets here.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:14
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keep in mind that if you get a zero W, you will also need a mini hdmi cable or adapter (the pi4 uses hdmi nano and I think the rest use standard hdmi) if you want to see any output If you want to attach any usb devices (likely if you don’t want to use a bluetooth keyboard or etc to connect to it), you’ll need a USB OTG adapter that is known to work with the pi zero (the cable has to be straight or angled in the correct fashion).
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Jul 27, 2023 17:58
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sb hermit posted:keep in mind that if you get a zero W, you will also need a mini hdmi cable or adapter (the pi4 uses hdmi nano and I think the rest use standard hdmi) if you want to see any output You don't need to see output for headless use-- one way is to set up the usb port to enumerate as a network device when you plug it into your PC, then ssh to it. You don't even need a USB OTG cable for this, any micro HDMI cable will do. E: tldr add g_ether to your device tree: https://learn.adafruit.com/turning-your-raspberry-pi-zero-into-a-usb-gadget/ethernet-gadget
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Jul 27, 2023 18:05
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I would not use a Wi-Fi client as the DNS server for my network, fwiw
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Jul 27, 2023 18:10
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Another option is if you can get your hands on some sort of low power laptop - it doesn't really matter if it was poverty spec ten years ago, it'll still be more than fast enough. Not as power efficient as a Pi, and physically larger, but on the other hand you get a neat integrated display, keyboard, and backup battery. e: But yes, get one with wired ethernet
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Jul 27, 2023 18:12
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the le potato 1 GB is $30, but amazon currently seems to be selling the 2 GB for $35 (down from $50) you can get more specs and information here: https://libre.computer/products/aml-s905x-cc/
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Jul 27, 2023 18:25
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Thanks Ants posted:I would not use a Wi-Fi client as the DNS server for my network, fwiw I have my Pi hole as primary and an external DNS as secondary. Worst case, I start getting ads and realize the Pi hole poo poo itself
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Jul 27, 2023 19:53
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Worst case your internet sucks because you're timing out all your DNS requests before they go to the secondary, but yeah you can reboot your way to victory. A friend of mine happened upon a legit MSRP seller of 4GB Pi4s, so he grabbed me a few and shipped them to me, the utter gem that he is. I got some of the Argon One cases and the NVMe case-bottom-thing, and I've got some off-brand SSDs in them with the BIOS reflashed to boot off USB. Works great and definitely boots faster than it did with the same image on SD. Now to decide which of my half-imagined projects I want to undertake...
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Jul 27, 2023 20:44
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Inept posted:the Pi hole poo poo itself thread title
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Jul 27, 2023 20:51
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rate my setup: 2B running pihole/openvpn with the same SD card for the last ~7 years on wifi connected to a smart plug in a dusty corner behind a tv
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Jul 27, 2023 23:33
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Tweak posted:rate my setup: 2B running pihole/openvpn with the same SD card for the last ~7 years on wifi connected to a smart plug in a dusty corner behind a tv if it works it works
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Jul 28, 2023 00:02
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Don't shut it down
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cruft posted:thread title
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Tweak posted:rate my setup: 2B running pihole/openvpn with the same SD card for the last ~7 years on wifi connected to a smart plug in a dusty corner behind a tv 5/7
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Jul 28, 2023 00:11
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Thanks Ants posted:Don't shut it down that's what the smart plug is for 
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Subjunctive posted:Worst case your internet sucks because you're timing out all your DNS requests before they go to the secondary, but yeah you can reboot your way to victory. lol low profile or hi profile ICETower or bust
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Jul 28, 2023 01:49
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Uhh, I think I am getting my RPi 4 soon? I ordered this back in March from Newark but have no idea how to interpret this. I got an email saying I paid them but neither of these tracking numbers work. I think maybe they somehow put their incoming shipment into my order. Maybe they are sending me 12 of them, who knows.
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Aug 19, 2023 18:00
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Anyone able to recommend a UPS for a Pi4 or PiZeroW? I'd like to stop losing SD cards to power issues.
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Aug 22, 2023 14:23
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Any random power bank that can provide power while charging should work. It’s just a question of how long you expect to have no power. I’ve used a goalzero battery for that. I didn’t buy it specifically for the pi, it’s just something I had on hand when I needed to solve that problem and it worked a treat. By comparison, all Anker power banks I’ve owned cannot charge while delivering power so if you look at them read the fine print.
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Aug 22, 2023 14:28
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I have a generator so it needs no more than 10 minutes of power.
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Aug 22, 2023 14:32
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Azuth0667 posted:Anyone able to recommend a UPS for a Pi4 or PiZeroW? I'd like to stop losing SD cards to power issues. Switch to usb sticks or usb to sata ssds
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Aug 22, 2023 14:40
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MikusR posted:Switch to usb sticks or usb to sata ssds I just did this over the weekend, finally, after dithering back and forth for over a year. Other options I tried and didn't use:
It was actually pretty simple. I just needed to rsync -ax / /mnt/usb, then mount the boot FAT partition from the SD card someplace, and edit cmdline.txt to mount the USB stick as root instead of the LABEL=writable partition of the SD card. Holding my breath for the USB stick to fail after the SD card hanging in there for 5+ years.
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Aug 22, 2023 15:48
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You don’t have to use SD at all. There’s a firmware update to boot directly from USB now (I’m using it with a USB NVMe adapter)
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NVMe pi rules tho at that point, as per tradition,*gestures vaguely at thread title*
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Aug 23, 2023 15:31
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Okay so it look like Pi 4's are actually available again How are PIs as a NAS? Ideally I'd want to start with 2 8TB spiny Drives.. My options are using a Pi.. or grabbing a GPU for my amd3600 and then using my aged intel 600 setup with a case to run an SAS setup.. All in I'd be like $250 (cheap case, SAS controller, and 2 used 8TB sas drives). Pi would be about the same I'd assume. $70 for a Pi4. $20-30 for a power brick.. 3d Printed case.. +some kind of USB 3 HD enclosure and normal drives)
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Aug 23, 2023 16:11
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If your intent is to use USB hard drives a Pi 4 isn't the worst thing (earlier Pis with USB 2.0 shared with ethernet are pretty close to the worst thing), but because it's limited to USB its obviously worse than basically anything that has native SATA ports and/or PCIe.
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tater_salad posted:Okay so it look like Pi 4's are actually available again wouldn’t it be better to get a used/refurbished office PC for ~$100 and fill that with drives?
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tater_salad posted:Okay so it look like Pi 4's are actually available again I use a Pi4 as a NAS/Router/Plex server. It's fine. I'm not, like, doing video editing on it or anything, just backing up photos and documents. I don't encode anything with H.265, so there's rarely ever a need to transcode anything. Most of the time, it's just idle. Here's a photo of an earlier version, before I replaced the Velcroed backup disks with a 4-bay USB3 DAS. I do recommend using this passive-cooling "everything is a heat radiator" case, over a 3d printed thing. I've never seen the CPU get up to 70° with this thing. This draws maybe 5 watts idle, which is saving me $5 a year in electricity vs a 10W intel box. But more importantly, it's totally silent other than the DAS fan and hard drive heads seeking. cruft fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Aug 23, 2023 |
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tater_salad posted:How are PIs as a NAS? What usage you mean when saying NAS? I personally have pi4 with 3 powered USB drives that hold my music (i play over samba and Navidrome) and videos (Plex to multiple local and remote devices and local Kodi over samba). And also Kopia/Windows file history target/Syncthing. uses about 20-26W
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MikusR posted:uses about 20-26W  I'm gonna go measure my setup again.
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MikusR posted:What usage you mean when saying NAS? just set it up with 2-4 drives in Raid (can probably just get away with 8tb of space) .. and have it sit on my network as a redundancy for my desktops / file share since I have like 5 PC's at any point and time. looking at 2 bay USB enclosures gets $$ tho. The desire to do this with a Pi is they're small. I don't have small PC parts so if I wanted to build a Nas we're looking at a small case, and a new mobo and and nad. Ok Comboomer posted:wouldn’t it be better to get a used/refurbished office PC for ~$100 and fill that with drives? I mean that's the initial plan.. I"ve got an old intel system that I'd just toss in a cheap case, and upgrade my "upstairs pc" with my amd setup (would need ram and a poo poo gpu).
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