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Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
Where's that big infographic about Arab 'equal representation' in Israel when you need it?

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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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https://twitter.com/WillHild/status/1681026802112757761

How have these stupid loving laws not been overturned in court? isn't money speech?

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1681127576708825088
The level of groveling is just comic at this point.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
looking forward to the most powerful 'present' vote ever given from AOC

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


mcmagic posted:

https://twitter.com/WillHild/status/1681026802112757761

How have these stupid loving laws not been overturned in court? isn't money speech?

Oh yeah, this supreme court seems highly likely to overturn these laws lol

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

crepeface posted:

looking forward to the most powerful 'present' vote ever given from AOC

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1682671225359810560

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007


wow 20k, that’s amazing!

how many of them showed up to protest the last time poo poo went down in gaza?



oh okay, cool.

Centrist Dad
Nov 13, 2007

When I see your posting
College Slice

backstory is that when he was running for office, his opponent launched a smear campaign that torres is anti-semitic...it wasn't true, but since then torres takes every conceivable opportunity to kiss the ring.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Ritchie Torres should kill himself

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Centrist Dad posted:

backstory is that when he was running for office, his opponent launched a smear campaign that torres is anti-semitic...it wasn't true, but since then torres takes every conceivable opportunity to kiss the ring.

https://twitter.com/micahf/status/1680811041012236291

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Centrist Dad posted:

backstory is that when he was running for office, his opponent launched a smear campaign that torres is anti-semitic...it wasn't true, but since then torres takes every conceivable opportunity to kiss the ring.

There is a genre of new york machine politician like torres, greg meeks and hakeem jefferies who are not jewish but are the biggest AIPAC freaks in congress, even more than fundi chuds. It's very weird.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/marwanbishara/status/1683038246060666880

Wow Mel Brooks' son called it, except the zombies or the part where the Palestinians get any benefit at all

https://worldwarz.fandom.com/wiki/Israel

https://worldwarz.fandom.com/wiki/Saladin_Kader%27s_Interview

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
lol if most of the weapons the US sends to Israel gets used on Israelis in a Civil War

i know this is optimistic; the mutual hatred towards Palestinians is still too much of a unifying force

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Echo Chamber posted:

lol if most of the weapons the US sends to Israel gets used on Israelis in a Civil War

i know this is optimistic; the mutual hatred towards Palestinians is still too much of a unifying force

This has about as much of a chance of starting a civil war as the Pussyhats did in the US.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

yeah the protests have been disruptive but I can't see the secular libs doing anything but rolling over in time

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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I don't really have a problem with a country getting rid of it's judicial review. If anything it's more democratic and I don't know why people think that a supreme court is going to keep a voting public that loves apartheid and settler colonialism from doing apartheid and settler colonialism. Liberal jews who live in israel are getting what they deserve.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Hmm


"shut the gently caress up mcmagic"
----------------------------------------

I'd like to offer my observation that "let's just force the whole population of the Gaza strip out!" is in no way an unpopular opinion around here so please don't be an accelerationist dickhead, things can in fact get hella worse.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I hope ur strike works :)

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




the diminishment of the supreme court upsets the liberal zionists in part because libs think if your get a room full of robed guys to write an essay you can turn a wrong into something justified and proper and without this the religious zionist violence cant be deflected by some random court case where an arab got to keep their house as proof that genocide isn't happening

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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By popular demand posted:

Hmm


"shut the gently caress up mcmagic"
----------------------------------------

I'd like to offer my observation that "let's just force the whole population of the Gaza strip out!" is in no way an unpopular opinion around here so please don't be an accelerationist dickhead, things can in fact get hella worse.

Yeah it would be awful if the bad thing that was already happening kept happening.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

mcmagic posted:

Yeah it would be awful if the bad thing that was already happening kept happening.

Rare mcmagic win.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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https://twitter.com/PeterBeinart/status/1683512171370541056

lol

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

By popular demand posted:

Hmm


"shut the gently caress up mcmagic"
----------------------------------------

I'd like to offer my observation that "let's just force the whole population of the Gaza strip out!" is in no way an unpopular opinion around here so please don't be an accelerationist dickhead, things can in fact get hella worse.

Shut the gently caress up

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/palinfoen/status/1683593320138698752

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

what a garbage lovely apartheid state

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Anybody with good politics has already left Israel at this point and it's all settlers and fundy freaks.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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https://twitter.com/saribashi/status/1684083960731561985

Where are all the liberal Israelis protesting over this?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I saw this tweet,

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1684519166433267713

and I wanted to understand what was going on here.

reading through the Al Jazeera piece that Maximo Roboto posted,

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/7/23/an-israeli-civil-war
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/4/12/israeli-protests-the-clash-of-competing-settler-colonial-visions

my understanding is that:

- the Netanyahu government wants to implement "judicial reform", which is a nice way of saying that they'd get to suborn the Israeli judiciary to be more in line with what the government wants
- in this case "what the government wants" is to become even more hard-line against Palestinians, than they already have been, because currently the courts are still liberal enough to get in the way of the far-right excesses of the ... far-right government
- this has sparked protests among liberal Israelis, because it would completely dissolve even the veneer of Israel being some kind of progressive liberal democracy state, if the far-right gets their way and stops with the pretense of caring about human rights, for the sake of accelerating the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians
- and then, going back to that first tweet at the top of my post, it's saying that these liberal Israelis are now looking for a way out and move to whatever other country that could have them, because they don't want to be associated with Israel anymore, now that Netanyahu is completing the transformation of Israel into unpretentious fascism

is that about right?

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
You forgot mr yahu also wants immunity in graft cases.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

is that about right?

Pretty much - funniest result would be if the Israeli Supreme Court strikes down the law and then Bibi precedes to arrest them all for 'subverting justice' or whatever.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022
you know thinks are going badly when 'even canada is an option'

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
Wouldn't be the first time they used our passports. At least they're asking this time.

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

gradenko_2000 posted:

I saw this tweet,

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1684519166433267713

and I wanted to understand what was going on here.

reading through the Al Jazeera piece that Maximo Roboto posted,

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/7/23/an-israeli-civil-war
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/4/12/israeli-protests-the-clash-of-competing-settler-colonial-visions

my understanding is that:

- the Netanyahu government wants to implement "judicial reform", which is a nice way of saying that they'd get to suborn the Israeli judiciary to be more in line with what the government wants
- in this case "what the government wants" is to become even more hard-line against Palestinians, than they already have been, because currently the courts are still liberal enough to get in the way of the far-right excesses of the ... far-right government
- this has sparked protests among liberal Israelis, because it would completely dissolve even the veneer of Israel being some kind of progressive liberal democracy state, if the far-right gets their way and stops with the pretense of caring about human rights, for the sake of accelerating the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians
- and then, going back to that first tweet at the top of my post, it's saying that these liberal Israelis are now looking for a way out and move to whatever other country that could have them, because they don't want to be associated with Israel anymore, now that Netanyahu is completing the transformation of Israel into unpretentious fascism

is that about right?

pretty much, but there's also the idea that without the courts the gov can pass a whole bunch of religious laws with no opposition, so those Israeli libs might actually feel a consequence for once.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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gradenko_2000 posted:

I saw this tweet,

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1684519166433267713

and I wanted to understand what was going on here.




the funny thing about this is that most of the liberals in israel left years ago. the ones still left are just like your typical lukidnik who stops just short of being a settler fundy lunatic

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
thanks for the responses, glad I'm up to speed

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

strong judicial review doesn't even exist in a lot of countries; for instance the UK parliament can pretty much pass whatever they want

whether that's good or not is up to the individual i guess; it certainly reflects the will of the voters better

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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i say swears online posted:

strong judicial review doesn't even exist in a lot of countries; for instance the UK parliament can pretty much pass whatever they want

whether that's good or not is up to the individual i guess; it certainly reflects the will of the voters better

Yeah the problem in israel is that the voters support apartheid and ethnic cleansing by wide margins.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

unfortunately so does the judiciary, just slightly less

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


i havent been following israel for like 10 years, how the gently caress is netenyahu still in power lol

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