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I think i read somewhere that it should work but they won't be very reliable. 1.44mb drives have a stronger magnetic signal than a 720k drive and the tracks are spaced closer, so when a 720k drive overwrites the disk it won't be able to perfectly erase the previous formatting and residual magnetic signals might interfere with the new track layout. You have to tape the hole shut so the 1.44mb drive thinks it's a double density floppy. https://www.instructables.com/Convert-a-144mb-floppy-to-720k/ I'd let the old and the new drive format a 720k floppy each and see what works better.
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r u ready to WALK posted:I think i read somewhere that it should work but they won't be very reliable. Floppy disks in a nutshell, even when they were in common use. I hardly ever expected the drat things to work more than twice. I wish you luck in your quest for the lost software
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Jul 25, 2023 19:26
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I normally pay around $50 for 100 mbps, but I have to call my ISP every 2-3 months when they add $30 of imaginary fees for "parental controls" and "Internet security" without asking me. Neither item does anything, they just make it the gently caress up.
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Dip Viscous posted:I normally pay around $50 for 100 mbps, but I have to call my ISP every 2-3 months when they add $30 of imaginary fees for "parental controls" and "Internet security" without asking me. Neither item does anything, they just make it the gently caress up. Love that this is pretty much common practice. Just add charges to see if anyone notices!
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Jul 25, 2023 19:39
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Sounds like fraud to me.
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Jul 25, 2023 19:58
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I just found out you can still buy those square buttons with indicator LEDs that were popular on early synths - Omron still makes them ("Omron B3J Hinged tactile switch"). I have zero need for them, but now I want a reason to use a few. 
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Jul 25, 2023 20:42
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Beve Stuscemi posted:Can a normal 1.44mb floppy disk be reformatted as a 720K and work? The above pictured Data General only has a 720K floppy drive in it, and i have no native 720K disks.
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Jul 25, 2023 20:43
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skooma512 posted:Floppy disks in a nutshell, even when they were in common use. I hardly ever expected the drat things to work more than twice. I used to take 3 copies of each disk when I had to take them back and forth to uni. Of course if you took that many they always worked, but any fewer copies at once and nothing ever worked.
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Jul 25, 2023 22:28
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You can (if you're in the US) get 10 recycled 3.5" 720k disks for $10 from here. I've bought from them before, never had any problems with the disks even if they're not new/new old stock.
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Jul 26, 2023 01:17
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I wound up buying from that same place over ebay actually
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Jul 26, 2023 03:36
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I remember when my store first got boxes of 3.5 HD floppies. They were like $73 per box and we wound up having to keep them behind the counter because they were getting shoplifted like crazy.
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Jul 26, 2023 03:42
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Beve Stuscemi posted:Can a normal 1.44mb floppy disk be reformatted as a 720K and work? Yeah I had some music gear that only wanted 720K floppos and it worked if you just formatted regular ones to 720K. Edit: oh sorry didn’t see there was an entire page talking about this already.
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Jul 26, 2023 08:24
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Computer viking posted:I just found out you can still buy those square buttons with indicator LEDs that were popular on early synths - Omron still makes them ("Omron B3J Hinged tactile switch"). I've got a bunch of these in stock set aside to refurbish an old sampler. They are very satisfying in their clicky tactility! The sampler in question is a Sequential Circuits Studio 440. "12 bit samples in 768KB loaded off floppy, ah that should be fine" is an easier vintage limitation to stomach in theory than in practice. The sequencer was a power house back then, though. Remember when Californian tech types where well-intentioned hippies? The 440's PCB has a buddha design on it and its OS scans through a buddhist poem during the boot sequence.
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Jul 26, 2023 12:48
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r u ready to WALK posted:I think i read somewhere that it should work but they won't be very reliable. 1.44mb drives have a stronger magnetic signal than a 720k drive and the tracks are spaced closer, so when a 720k drive overwrites the disk it won't be able to perfectly erase the previous formatting and residual magnetic signals might interfere with the new track layout. This is sort of right, but not quite. The tracks aren't spaced closer (they're both 80-track disks), the extra capacity is from doubling the data rate so that you get twice as many sectors on each track, and 1.4MB disks have a different magnetic coating to allow this. A real 720K disk will read and write fine in a 1.4MB drive because the drive will detect the missing high-density hole and thus know to adjust the current to the r/w heads to the correct levels for the 720K coating, and the disk will then work fine when you transfer it to a 720K drive. A 1.4MB disk formatted as 720K (in either kind of drive) will be unreliable because it has the wrong magnetic coating for 720K. Taping over the hole doesn't help because the coating is still the 1.4MB type, which the 720K drive is not designed for - you might get away with it for quick data transfer, but don't expect converted disks to be readable long-term. Sweevo has a new favorite as of 09:37 on Jul 27, 2023 |
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Jul 26, 2023 14:05
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LifeSunDeath posted:
I've never seen the director's cut, but have definitely seen this. I think it was maybe put back for whatever TV edit I've seen.
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Jul 26, 2023 14:09
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I use Jdownloader for stuff from Archive.org, am I the tech relic?
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I like these cropped, no-context ads (posted by unicity74 on instagram):        
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Jul 26, 2023 16:15
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Those are Good Computers, unlike today's bad ones.
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Antigravitas posted:Those are Good Computers, unlike today's bad ones. Those machines ran programs instead of Apps.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:09
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Antigravitas posted:Those are Good Computers, unlike today's bad ones. at least they were honest computers, not fast but honest. today's computers are liars but get it done quickly.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:11
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none of those computers wants to mine or sell my data, and that makes them my friends windows 3.1's installer didn't ask about my goddamn ad preferences
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Jul 26, 2023 17:44
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A real computer has a large power switch in back that SNAPS when you turn it on and then emits a loud BEEP. 
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Jul 26, 2023 17:49
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you had to have an office cause you'd wake the loving house up with the drive noise/system speaker/dot matrix printer activating.
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Jul 26, 2023 17:57
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If the room lights don’t dim when you turn on your computer, are you even computing?
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Trabant posted:I like these cropped, no-context ads (posted by unicity74 on instagram): drat I love these… so frickin cool
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Code Jockey posted:none of those computers wants to mine or sell my data, and that makes them my friends When was the last time you saw some new computer thingy and were excited about getting to try it instead of thinking "how will this thing attempt to steal all my data and sell it to the highest bidder?" Yeah 
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LifeSunDeath posted:at least they were honest computers, not fast but honest. today's computers are liars but get it done quickly. They were plenty fast. Programs were slow, and still are.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:They were plenty fast. Programs were slow, and still are. not my loving tandy bro, poo poo was real slow.
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barbecue at the folks posted:When was the last time you saw some new computer thingy and were excited about getting to try it instead of thinking "how will this thing attempt to steal all my data and sell it to the highest bidder?" Yeah I think it's not what you meant, but I have been unironically excited when I've got new GPUs or CPUs. That's not really "new" in the sense you intended, though, I'm pretty sure.
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barbecue at the folks posted:When was the last time you saw some new computer thingy and were excited about getting to try it instead of thinking "how will this thing attempt to steal all my data and sell it to the highest bidder?" Yeah I got excited about https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp which lets me talk to my computer completely on-device and offline without any limits on how stupid or embarrassing the questions are. Most of the time the answers are pretty coherent, too! I struggle to comprehend how it works as well as it does. quote:User: Do you want to steal all my data and sell it to the highest bidder?
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So now I have no excuse to be living in the past?! I hold you personally responsible for the horrors that are sue to follow.
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Jul 27, 2023 09:22
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Dr. Sbaitso was like 40 000 years ago.
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Jul 27, 2023 09:45
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Yeah but dr sbaitso is a prude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87sl5ReC0_8
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r u ready to WALK posted:Yeah but dr sbaitso is a prude You want to talk dirty to your computer?
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If you’re not constantly swearing at your computer you haven’t worked in IT long enough
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How dare you. I have never "worked in IT". Computers are for ADP.
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barbecue at the folks posted:When was the last time you saw some new computer thingy and were excited about getting to try it instead of thinking "how will this thing attempt to steal all my data and sell it to the highest bidder?" Yeah KDE Connect is cool, and every new release of KDE Plasma delivers something cool.
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quote:The System 8813 was PolyMorphic's diskette-based system. It was introduced in 1977 it's a monitor for ants
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3D Megadoodoo posted:How dare you. I have never "worked in IT". Computers are for ADP. That’s somehow even worse
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They don't make moustaches like that anymore
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