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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Escape from LA is better than Escape from NY. Yeah in opposite land!!!
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Jul 27, 2023 15:27
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There isn't even an argument to be had here.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:29
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La is stinky doo doo
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Jul 27, 2023 15:30
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LA has a lot of fun stuff in it.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:34
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MacheteZombie posted:LA has a lot of fun stuff in it. It does, I still have a marquee poster of it somewhere and everything and I love the heavy-handed social commentary and such, but there's two many points where it attempts to hit the mood of NY and doesn't pull it off. Whenever it's doing it's own thing it's a lot more enjoyable. Also very important for secretly being THE Deus Ex movie.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:45
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They're both mid tier JC movies though
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Jul 27, 2023 15:47
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MacheteZombie posted:They're both mid tier JC movies though Agreed, neither would be in my top 5
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Jul 27, 2023 15:48
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MacheteZombie posted:They're both mid tier JC movies though As an adult, logically, I understand why The Thing is one of the best movies ever made and I agree with that fact. But I'm really biased about it because when I was like 10 my parents were out for the weekend and I was watching some random cartoon stuff we taped off TV and my older brother abruptly turned it off and was like "Mom and dad are gone and you're old enough to watch real movies now." and rented The Thing and Escape from New York for us to double feature so both basically stamped themselves onto and melted my brain equally at that age. So it remains my favorite Carpenter flick alongside The Thing and Dark Star.
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Jul 27, 2023 15:53
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Escape from NY rules and doesn't get enough credit for starting a genre of trashy dystopian movies.
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Jul 27, 2023 16:35
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Escape from L.A. is not as good as Escape from New York (Carpenter's best movie), but it does whip rear end. I owe Vampires a rewatch but I'd tentatively call L.A. Carpenter's last really good movie and a decent capstone to his career.
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Jul 27, 2023 16:46
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LA is tons of fun and has some great moments. The basketball scene rules and the ending is an all timer.
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Jul 27, 2023 16:58
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Escape from LA is better than Escape from NY. you’re a wild one Hundu
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Jul 27, 2023 17:12
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The Crow reboot starring Bill Skarsgård has apparently wrapped filming, but no release date yet. I'm not optimistic, even with Bill in the lead role, since every outing apart from the first film has been irredeemable garbage that even the presence of Iggy Pop couldn't save. Also they should've used whatever insane script Nick Cave wrote. I've never read it, but if it's even half as bizarre as his Gladiator 2 script I'm sure it would be at least entertainingly weird. Edit: ignore me, apparently it wrapped ages ago but some sites decided to report it again for some reason.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:30
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what are some movies other than Escape from L.A. that are sequels that double as parodies of the first movie? I guess you could argue Evil Dead II but I feel like there are others I'm forgetting.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:45
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:what are some movies other than Escape from L.A. that are sequels that double as parodies of the first movie? I guess you could argue Evil Dead II but I feel like there are others I'm forgetting. Gremlins 2 is a good one
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Jul 27, 2023 17:49
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Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
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Jul 27, 2023 17:51
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Idunno if Slumber Party Massacre II counts as a parody of the first, but it takes the satire into outright surrealism.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:52
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Basebf555 posted:Gremlins 2 is a good one Pope Corky the IX posted:Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 duh, two obvious ones i overlooked. Halloween Jack posted:Idunno if Slumber Party Massacre II counts as a parody of the first, but it takes the satire into outright surrealism. this reminded me of another: Sleepaway Camp II (and III)
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Jul 27, 2023 17:53
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 That one is particularly funny because Hooper got a big 3 film deal from the studio with part of the agreement being that one of those films would be a TCM sequel. The first film he makes is Lifeforce, which was a money sink and a bomb. The second film was Invaders From Mars which didn't cost nearly as much as Lifeforce but bombed equally hard. Still, the studio was like ok we're still happy with this deal because we're about to get a sequel to one of the most iconic horror films of all time. They were....not pleased when they saw what Hooper did with TCM 2.
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Jul 27, 2023 17:55
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Jul 27, 2023 17:56
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:what are some movies other than Escape from L.A. that are sequels that double as parodies of the first movie? I guess you could argue Evil Dead II but I feel like there are others I'm forgetting. Rocky 2 and (especially) Rambo 2 are inadvertently parodies of their originals which double down more on the popular conceptions of those characters rather than the actual texts and nuances of the originals. RoboCop 2 a bit also, maybe? Don’t really remember that too well so don’t want to be definitive.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:19
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Escape from LA is better than Escape from NY. What? Why? Why do you think that!! I've seen both relatively recently and...no! Edit: I missed a lot of posts. Yeah, it does have some good bits, I'll grant that.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:23
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Neo Rasa posted:As an adult, logically, I understand why The Thing is one of the best movies ever made and I agree with that fact. But I'm really biased about it because when I was like 10 my parents were out for the weekend and I was watching some random cartoon stuff we taped off TV and my older brother abruptly turned it off and was like "Mom and dad are gone and you're old enough to watch real movies now." and rented The Thing and Escape from New York for us to double feature so both basically stamped themselves onto and melted my brain equally at that age. So it remains my favorite Carpenter flick alongside The Thing and Dark Star. your brother rules
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Jul 27, 2023 18:23
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Basebf555 posted:That one is particularly funny because Hooper got a big 3 film deal from the studio with part of the agreement being that one of those films would be a TCM sequel. The first film he makes is Lifeforce, which was a money sink and a bomb. The second film was Invaders From Mars which didn't cost nearly as much as Lifeforce but bombed equally hard. Still, the studio was like ok we're still happy with this deal because we're about to get a sequel to one of the most iconic horror films of all time. They were....not pleased when they saw what Hooper did with TCM 2. Lifeforce is the absolute poo poo. I'd love to rewatch that with edibles. absolute insanity.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:24
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Wasn’t Lifeforce basically only 2/3 of a movie because he ran out of money and couldn’t film the planned ending setpiece?
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Jul 27, 2023 18:26
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Wait, people remember anything about that movie past the first 10 minutes?
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Jul 27, 2023 18:27
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Chairman Capone posted:Wasn’t Lifeforce basically only 2/3 of a movie because he ran out of money and couldn’t film the planned ending setpiece? I wouldn't go that far. Yes there was definitely budget issues that led to him not really being able to fully realize the climax but if you watch the movie the last act is still pretty bonkers.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:31
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naked lady shooting lazers out of her hands as she flies past the crystal fortress of solitude there's more stuff that happens too
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Jul 27, 2023 18:35
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Shageletic posted:naked lady shooting lazers out of her hands as she flies past the crystal fortress of solitude Captain Picard kisses a dude
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Jul 27, 2023 18:38
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I heard that Hooper and his wife auditioned an absurd number of naked women before deciding on Mathilda May, who did not speak English at the time.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:40
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If anything the main criticism of Lifeforce that I think most people agree on is that it kinda lags in the middle. The opening act with the ship and then naked escape and the zombie dudes crumbling to dust is unbelievable, and the last act is ridiculous and entertaining. The middle act could've used a tighter edit.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:43
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Jack B Nimble posted:What? Why? Why do you think that!! I've seen both relatively recently and...no! I don't think much of Escape from NY.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:43
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You're not wrong. It kinda slumps into a weird detective derail, which is funnily kinda similar to the detective boring stuff in the original Bram Stoker's Dracula. e: lifeforce is still a strong recommend, esp if you like a good example of a weird b movie
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Jul 27, 2023 18:45
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Basebf555 posted:That one is particularly funny because Hooper got a big 3 film deal from the studio with part of the agreement being that one of those films would be a TCM sequel. The first film he makes is Lifeforce, which was a money sink and a bomb. The second film was Invaders From Mars which didn't cost nearly as much as Lifeforce but bombed equally hard. Still, the studio was like ok we're still happy with this deal because we're about to get a sequel to one of the most iconic horror films of all time. They were....not pleased when they saw what Hooper did with TCM 2. Cannon Films lol. There's a funny story of one of the heads of the studio watching Invaders from Mars and mistaking it for a different movie and going absolutely ballistic about it. Pretty sure they had a poo poo fit about TCM2 as well but that movie loving rules. Uncle Boogeyman posted:duh, two obvious ones i overlooked. Sleepaway Camp 2 is fantastic and I honestly like it better than the original. 3 suffers from having nearly all gore completely cut out of it for reasons I'm unaware of, especially since I'm pretty sure both 2/3 were direct to video. The less said about "Return to Sleepaway Camp" and the abomination that is "Sleepaway Camp 4 the Survivor" the better. And yes, someone bothered to cut together the random bits of footage shot for 4 with terrible quality footage from 2/3 and released it. And charged money for it. It was easily one of the worst pieces of poo poo I've bothered to watch and review back in the days of my old podcast. And I ripped on it hard enough that someone emailed me after the episode went up to tell me I was an rear end in a top hat for ripping on it and how I wasn't a real fan or some such. May have been the dude who put it out, I don't remember anymore but it was pretty funny.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:46
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Shageletic posted:You're not wrong. It kinda slumps into a weird detective derail, which is funnily kinda similar to the detective boring stuff in the original Bram Stoker's Dracula. It's basically a Quatermass/Hammer film with a giant budget so you do need some stuffy British dudes talking to each other.
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Jul 27, 2023 18:47
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Bruce Campbell has a great anecdote about the first thing Kurt Russell said to him on the set of Escape From LA
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Jul 27, 2023 18:59
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Basebf555 posted:If anything the main criticism of Lifeforce that I think most people agree on is that it kinda lags in the middle. The opening act with the ship and then naked escape and the zombie dudes crumbling to dust is unbelievable, and the last act is ridiculous and entertaining. The middle act could've used a tighter edit. You might prefer the theatrical version, it got released on DVD in some countries. For its theatrical release about 15 minutes was cut mostly in the middle just for pacing rather than for the content/censorship. Particularly almost all the redundant vampire talk is removed. I prefer the extended/director's cut myself just because it's so indulgent but it absolutely does lag in the middle. Also related to Lifeforce lmao gently caress you Baldur's Gate composer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5xyTZTlrXM
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Jul 27, 2023 19:15
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joylessdivision posted:Sleepaway Camp 2 is fantastic and I honestly like it better than the original. Depending on my mood on a given day i agree with this.
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Jul 27, 2023 19:19
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Depending on my mood on a given day i agree with this. The first is great for sure, but I saw the second and third before I ever got a chance to see the original and I fell in love with the second. Pam Springsteen is so much fun as Angela and Renee Estevez is great and always a favorite to see pop up in low budget 80's horror schlock
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Shageletic posted:Lifeforce is the absolute poo poo. I'd love to rewatch that with edibles. absolute insanity. I watched it for the first time with edibles like a month ago and promptly fell asleep right after she escapes the lab. It’s an incredibly dull and boring movie.
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