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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Lostconfused posted:

Tanking is a social position within a group, it's not a class mechanic.

very true

I've only very recently heard that, due to advances in streaming technology, there's now a position of "shot-caller" (my term, not theirs), which is a "26th" person that views the game through someone streaming the game to them, and they sit in the communal voice chat, and their only purpose is to coordinate movements and actions of the group during a boss fight

I wonder where that person ends up on the pecking order

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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

SplitSoul posted:

The EU is literally cool with murdering people on boats or in Baltic forests. Your valuables and cash are seized when you apply for asylum in Denmark and your case gets handled by something called the Return Agency. We once repatriated an orphaned 16-year-old Hazara to be stoned to death by the Taliban. But yeah, not directly.

yeah that's what i meant

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

euphronius posted:

“shut up and heal”

This is why everyone is a medic now.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

euroracism and yankeeracism take substantially different forms and have substantially different emphases. euroracism is more casual and pervasive, whereas yankeeracism is generally more suppressed but also much more aggressive - the categories and racial myths are also rather different in various ways - if you're an american black man with an american black man's name you will probably have less trouble getting called in for interviews in france than you would in much of america, all else being equal. if you're called "muhammad jibril" or something you're completely hosed

Fell Mood
Jul 2, 2022

A terrible Fell look!

Regarde Aduck posted:

i kinda meant right now

man i didn't think it'd be so hard to say that America is kinda unique in how openly murderous it is to its non-white population. The UK is hideously racist and will happily watch migrants drown in the channel but its police are not making the news every week by shooting someone dead.

That's not to say there's a shortage of people that really wished they were but it's not happening yet.

As has already been said, that's probably not a racism difference but rather a gun culture difference. Euros don't refrain from shooting minorities because they think it's bad, it's rather they don't have a culture of guns being everyday problem solving tools like we do.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Fell Mood posted:

As has already been said, that's probably not a racism difference but rather a gun culture difference. Euros don't refrain from shooting minorities because they think it's bad, it's rather they don't have a culture of guns being everyday problem solving tools like we do.

right but this culture is itself heavily racialised and borne in part out of a long legacy of extremely violent racial tensions

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

European racism is more annoying because it's coming from servile has-beens who kowtow to Brussels and DC, but still think they're the master race.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

ПриZрак Новороссии posted:


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And now the actual story in 2 parts.

I will describe briefly, because as always there is no time, details on all 3 videos:

Briefly, a couple of weeks ago, the guys from the 163rd tank regiment of the 150th division turned to us for help.

The problem was in the complex work of the ukrops hunting for tanks. At night, a drone with a thermal imager (like Mavic 3T) tracked the machines. Next, a large industrial drone flew along the coordinates, which carried high-explosive and cumulative ammunition. With fougasse, he removed welded structures from the tank against cumules, and then cumulative ammunition was used and the machine was burned. So they lost several tanks.
The second drone flew and dropped very low, 30-40 m.

The guys asked for some kind of ECM or thermal imaging sight on a machine gun to shoot down the drone.
When asked why you, who are losing 80 million tanks, do not have a small ECM sysyem, they just shrugged their shoulders.

I gave them a backup Airat-100 rifle and a thermal collimator sight.

We recorded a video, which I did not post, so as not to scare the ukrop (the first 2 videos)

And today, the guys announced that the drone was shot down. And they brought a trophy (3 videos).

The trophy is just a beam from the DRONE THEY SHOT DOWN. Just because the downed drone's ammunition detonated. And besides, as soon as the drone was shot down, secret people immediately ran in pursuit of trophies and the contents of the car.
Well done for running in, of course. Operationally so. But I give you a hint, if you saturated the units with small ECM, you would have more such trophies. But apparently such is not fate.

So the details are in the photos and videos, and we continue to work.

The guys from 163 who shot down the drone are definitely great.

The second drone (presumably mavik 3T) escaped the rifle - apparently it was with a booster, or with changed frequencies.

Something like that, yes.

I remind you of the ACTUAL details for collecting voluntary donations for the warring army:

VTB:
4272290754036887
Roman Yurievich Z.

Crypt:
BTC
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ETH
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(from t.me/ghost_of_novorossia/14197, via tgsa)

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

The Oldest Man posted:

It's because getting shelled while you're in a truck is bad

if you're getting shelled on the way, aren't you getting shelled where you're going? when do you get out?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

if you're getting shelled on the way, aren't you getting shelled where you're going? when do you get out?

250-500m out.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

V. Illych L. posted:

euroracism and yankeeracism take substantially different forms and have substantially different emphases. euroracism is more casual and pervasive, whereas yankeeracism is generally more suppressed but also much more aggressive - the categories and racial myths are also rather different in various ways - if you're an american black man with an american black man's name you will probably have less trouble getting called in for interviews in france than you would in much of america, all else being equal. if you're called "muhammad jibril" or something you're completely hosed

yankees are europeans

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bad news for Russia - The European Commission has no immediate money in the budget and no clear way to help finance the extra transport costs Ukrainian grain exports will face with the end of the Black Sea deal


https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f08db2904aba971

European Commission has no money to help Ukraine with extra transport costs after Black Sea deal collapse
1h ago
16.36 BST

The European Commission has no immediate money in the budget and no clear way to help finance the extra transport costs Ukrainian grain exports will face with the end of the Black Sea deal, sources have told Reuters, leaving an opportunity for Moscow to cash in.

Ukraine, one of the world’s biggest grain exporters, will now have to rely almost entirely on expensive routes through the EU and the cheapest alternative artery, the Danube River, may not be able to expand its volume as much as hoped after bombings.

In a letter dated 21 July and seen by Reuters, Ukraine’s agriculture ministry asked EU trade chief Valdis Dombrovskis for the Commission to provide financial aid for the extra transport cost of using alternate EU routes known as “Solidarity Lanes”. Ukraine estimates the extra cost to be $30-40 a tonne.

This week, EU agriculture commissioner Janusz Wojciechowski said Russia could benefit by undercutting Ukraine unless the EU helped reduce the cost.

“We have not found a solution yet to support the grain transport. People have been scratching their heads since last year,” a source with knowledge of the Commission discussions said.

One diplomatic source said money was very short and substantial funds could only come after the mid-term budget review that could take several more months to hash out, even with the autumn corn harvest around the corner.

A Commission spokesperson confirmed receipt of the letter and said “we are currently assessing such requests and will reply in due course”.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

can they just print some euros

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

if you're getting shelled on the way, aren't you getting shelled where you're going? when do you get out?

Yeah but at that point you should be able to use your infantry crew-served weapons to do something back (not against the artillery directly obviously, but hopefully against some other poor shmuck infantry-man on the other side) and also this is the time for you to use your most important tool: the shovel. Now mother earth takes over protecting you from red hot metal shrapnel.

Ofcourse if you get shelled before you can do enough digging you are hosed, but the beauty of the infantry is that it's fairly easy and cheap to have lots of them, so all your generals and politicians will be ok if you, personally, get red hot metal shrapnel inside your body at this point. Statistically enough of your colleagues will be able to dig themselves in and do their infantry job now that they've safely arrived on the battlefield.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Zodium posted:

yankees are europeans

now you must die

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Zodium posted:

yankees are europeans

This is why Danes are swarthy.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Komrade5738/status/1684308583880458241?t=4mqaAZ5kNgNnpKZ2-socqA&s=19

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Orange Devil posted:

We're in this interesting place now where western society is obsessed with safety and reducing risk (for well off people) but also still incredibly war-like.

Well off people won't be the ones drafted to fight WW3 and they certainly don't fill out the ranks of the military the rest of the time.

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo
Oh great, now I'm hearing Putler has been in contact with non-human intelligence... alien war is hell

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

My militia fighting alongside nazis is raising a lot of questions already answered by my militia fighting alongside nazis.

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo
Space Tankies? Now i've heard everything

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Germans working over time to deal with all those videos of destroyed or abandoned Leopard 2s

https://youtu.be/VGzRfvgnS_s

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




Oh look more anarcho natoists

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011


Wait isnt Green and Black Anarcho-Primitivism? They're only slightly less genocidal than fascists and slightly more genocidal than other anarchists

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

thankfull i cant read threads anymore

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely
Suriyak provided some updates.. they say that Russia has managed to push the Ukrainians back out of Klishchiivka, but that Ukraine still controls the high ground outside of the town:

https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1684604667513233408

They also note that Ukraine is pouring more resources into trying to break through around Robotyne and so far the attacks have been repulsed but the defense lines are becoming tenuous and Russia may have to fall back here soon if this keeps up.

https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1684605892908531712

also apparently Ukraine must be getting pretty close to the first Russian defensive line because here's the first video I've seen of Ukraine encountering an anti-tank ditch with the infamous "dragon's teeth" in sight

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1684606503485833222

Starsfan has issued a correction as of 18:38 on Jul 27, 2023

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Bit late for racism chat but didn't tire Quran burners apply for permission to do so and get allowed? Isn't that literally state sponsored racism?

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.


Not much, what's a thermal collimator sight with you?

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Slavvy posted:

Bit late for racism chat but didn't tire Quran burners apply for permission to do so and get allowed? Isn't that literally state sponsored racism?

Ahh see thats religion, not race so therefore not racist

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Orange Devil posted:

My militia fighting alongside nazis is raising a lot of questions already answered by my militia fighting alongside nazis.

Just turn the anarchist flag 45 degrees and you're in BLUBO town.

Slavvy posted:

Bit late for racism chat but didn't tire Quran burners apply for permission to do so and get allowed? Isn't that literally state sponsored racism?

As anyone who's ever tried to organize a leftist protest will tell you, yes, the police can and will easily reject your permit application citing public order. Try to protest at the Israeli embassy for example and they will savagely beat you even as you're running away.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

https://twitter.com/Comrad_Dytar/status/1497599772005441539

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
hmmmm poland loves to say theyre european yet theyre not in the eurozone they still use their dumb zlotys, fascinating

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

The Ukrainians drove them out into open fields in broad daylight. They would have never done that with trucks, and APCs are, fundamentally, bulletproof trucks with treads so they can drive off-road better.

* Vaguely gesture in the direction of numerous MAXXPRO and other trucks getting obliterated in open fields in broad daylight *

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

SplitSoul posted:

As anyone who's ever tried to organize a leftist protest will tell you, yes, the police can and will easily reject your permit application citing public order. Try to protest at the Israeli embassy for example and they will savagely beat you even as you're running away.

someone did just get a permit to burn a torah infront of the israeli embassy
the 50-something woman who is doing it gave the reason she was doing it was to support the rights of children so i think its q-anon/save the children related

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

very true

I've only very recently heard that, due to advances in streaming technology, there's now a position of "shot-caller" (my term, not theirs), which is a "26th" person that views the game through someone streaming the game to them, and they sit in the communal voice chat, and their only purpose is to coordinate movements and actions of the group during a boss fight

I wonder where that person ends up on the pecking order

can you hand out dkp?

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

if you're getting shelled on the way, aren't you getting shelled where you're going? when do you get out?

You need to get a lot of guys together to use motorized transport. This means you are very, very vulnerable to having like a hundred guys splattered by one fire mission from enemy artillery. APCs make it a lot less likely that your entire transport column gets turned into chunky salsa all at once because they're shrapnel-resistant. A direct hit still kills everybody inside but direct hits aren't very likely. Meanwhile, a shell going off anywhere near your truck or humvee or whatever means everybody in it is probably a casualty.

When you get where you're going (or rather, 'get there' meaning close but outside of individual weapon ranges, ~500-1000m away or so) you pile out of your transports and disperse. At that point, you're vulnerable to artillery but it's a lot harder for artillery to blow up dispersed infantry who can drop flat and dig holes than it is to blow up a column of unarmored vehicles.

That's pretty much it. When you need to gather up hundreds of guys into a nice 155mm artillery splatter zone for some reason, you want to wrap them in frag protection.

IFVs take that concept and turn it into a light tank because hey why not

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Frosted Flake posted:

This is the Battlecruiser Problem: The more a weapon system resembles another weapon system that it is not, battlecruisers growing to resemble battleships, the greater the chance it will be misused as if it were that thing, battlecruisers being used in the line of battle at Jutland and exploding.

I'd say the battlecruiser problem is that they're dumb as gently caress

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

Slavvy posted:

Bit late for racism chat but didn't tire Quran burners apply for permission to do so and get allowed? Isn't that literally state sponsored racism?

umm, i think you'll find it's actually state-enforced freedom of speech. :smugbert: it's not our fault those dirty muslamics hate freedom and western values, it's in their dna

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Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

The Oldest Man posted:

I'd say the battlecruiser problem is that they're dumb as gently caress

Glass cannon build.

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