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My personal favorite song from Wrath that isn't one of the big story moment ones: Totems of the Grizzlemaw, Grizzly Hills day theme.
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Cythereal posted:My personal favorite song from Wrath that isn't one of the big story moment ones: Totems of the Grizzlemaw, Grizzly Hills day theme. This is the first song that comes to mind when I think of "WoW music." I love it.
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Jul 24, 2023 23:26
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I think we can safely say that the one area where Blizzard has never been found wanting is in the music department.
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Jul 24, 2023 23:28
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Cythereal posted:My personal favorite song from Wrath that isn't one of the big story moment ones: Totems of the Grizzlemaw, Grizzly Hills day theme. The moment that started playing I was almost tempted to go check out WoW again. I mean, I'm not going to, obviously. I know I'd be disappointed. But even though I was never that into the actual game elements, for a while there it was a pretty great world to exist in for a few hours after school. Good game composers are underappreciated.
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Jul 25, 2023 00:13
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The Grizzly Hills music is iconic, but I also have a soft spot for the Sholazar Basin music
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Jul 25, 2023 00:16
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Ok, you guys are forcing my hand. There is one piece of objectively best Wrath zone music, and that is Howling Fjord https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTe0R2bREY
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Jul 25, 2023 00:18
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WAY OF THE MONK MOTHERFUCKERS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g-wBrU9keE
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Jul 25, 2023 00:20
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Is Medivh's entire shtick to appear suddenly, scream about the end is nigh and how everyone should move west to Kalimdor, and then bail?
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Jul 25, 2023 00:46
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Yes. Being equal parts cryptic and melodramatic is kind of his entire deal. It's a miracle Khadgar turned out as well-adjusted (relatively speaking) as he did.
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Jul 25, 2023 00:47
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Really, the only reason Jaina is giving him the time of day is because she can actually sense how powerful he is.
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Jul 25, 2023 00:50
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Also because, I think, Jaina is pretty badly traumatized and has realized that nothing Medivh has said so far was wrong per se. According to the books Jaina was by this point suggesting that the Alliance should hedge their bets and send at least a small force to Kalimdor to see what's going on. As a Kul Tiran, Jaina does in fact already know that Kalimdor exists - Kul Tiran ships have been there. But at this time, the rest of Lordaeron and Dalaran and their allies are still firmly focused on trying to save their lands and dealing with the problems immediately at hand. The Scourge haven't been seen in Lordaeron in the month since Stratholme, and the prevailing view among the Alliance's leaders is that the crisis is past, at least for now. Those leaders in the Alliance agitating in favor of Kalimdor or preparing for a new Scourge invasion - notably Jaina Proudmoore, Saidan Dathrohan, Alexandros Mograine, and Archmage Rhonin and General Vereesa Windrunner of Dalaran - are the minority view and being called alarmist and paranoid.
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Jul 25, 2023 00:58
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The idea of picking up and fleeing is also just... unspeakably impractical. There's no way anyone has the shipping capacity for more than a small slice of their populace, except maybe some place like Kul Tiras. What Medivh's telling them to do is basically to abandon most of their people just because. The death toll is not going to be meaningfully smaller that way, though maybe you'll see it getting started a little earlier as people catch wind of the evacuation and realize they haven't been chosen.
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Jul 25, 2023 01:08
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Do people outside Kul Tiras even know Kalimdor exists?
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Jul 25, 2023 02:44
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Szarrukin posted:Do people outside Kul Tiras even know Kalimdor exists? The elves of Quel'Thalas came from there, and I assume the mages of Dalaran know too. Other than that, maybe the few of the more well informed nobles and high ranking military officers of other nations know as well.
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Jul 25, 2023 02:59
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Rhonne posted:The elves of Quel'Thalas came from there, and I assume the mages of Dalaran know too. Other than that, maybe the few of the more well informed nobles and high ranking military officers of other nations know as well. This, but as far as the Eastern Kingdoms are concerned Kalimdor's existence is a curiosity. The elves tried to bury their past and keep the existence of things like the night elves under lock and key, and Kul Tiran landing parties were immediately attacked by hostile natives including centaurs and harpies. At this moment, no one in the Eastern Kingdoms beyond people like Medivh and the most reclusive of elven scholars know anything about Kalimdor beyond that it exists, much less why anyone would want to go there. It's something of a trend in Warcraft that, as written, people tend to be profoundly incurious and unwilling to expand. The borders of every nation in the Eastern Kingdoms have been static since the fall of Arathor until the fall of Alterac in WC2, and even then those lands were never actually annexed or what have you. Exploring Northrend is for a rare few brave individuals. No one particularly cares that Kalimdor exists. People just... stay put and don't change in Warcraft, unless a specific plot at hand demands otherwise.
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Jul 25, 2023 03:05
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Feldegast42 posted:Ok, you guys are forcing my hand. There is one piece of objectively best Wrath zone music, and that is Howling Fjord Cythereal posted:My personal favorite song from Wrath that isn't one of the big story moment ones: Totems of the Grizzlemaw, Grizzly Hills day theme. Rhonne posted:The Grizzly Hills music is iconic, but I also have a soft spot for the Sholazar Basin music Peaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkbDIlvkr-A
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Jul 25, 2023 03:14
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I mean yeah most people in the EKs don't care to explore because most of them are farmers or other simple professions who have more important things to worry about like 'agh, are the orcs raiding my farms'. And until recently most of humanity was engrossed in one war or another, it's only been the last few years they've had any semblance of peace in a while. And there was never any reason for the nations to expand when they were locked in an uneasy alliance of 'well if Gilneas invades Lordaeron then pretty much every nation would attack them and why would they'. It's not necessarily a case of being incurious, it's more a case of 'okay expanding might be rad but it would really not be worth it'. Alterac's fall in WC2 was a precautionary tale, and even then it was probably a tipping point for nations like Gilneas to start looking for an opprtunity to get out of the stranglehold that the Alliance had on its constituent nations.
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Jul 25, 2023 03:15
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Cythereal posted:This, but as far as the Eastern Kingdoms are concerned Kalimdor's existence is a curiosity. The elves tried to bury their past and keep the existence of things like the night elves under lock and key, and Kul Tiran landing parties were immediately attacked by hostile natives including centaurs and harpies. To be fair, "we went to explore here, and our explorers were attacked and/or murdered by hostile native monsters. Then we tried to go HERE, and our explorers were attacked and/or murdered by hostile native monsters. Then we tried to go HERE..." repeated ad nauseum does tend to be a deterrent from exploring new lands after a while :P
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Jul 25, 2023 03:27
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It's also a world where "here be dragons" is incredibly literal and they often have good reasons to tell mortals "No, do not touch that. In fact, do not be here at all. Leave this area immediately or there will be violence." Well except for the black dragonflight and the non-titan aligned dragons who just jump straight to violence with various levels of malicious glee.
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Jul 25, 2023 04:25
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Oh thank goodness, I at least caught up to the thread before Cyth finished up the part of the campaign that left me dumbstruck as a kid. I quite enjoy the loreposts, but I admit many of them have congealed into one indiscriminate mass of disappointment in my hazy memory, with a rare few gems hidden in the muck. I didn't fully appreciate just how impactful the Culling was when I was little, but I'm glad its shittification has been minimal.
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Jul 25, 2023 05:26
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Part of why I really enjoy Ner'zhul as a villain is the fact that they actually have a really good plan in WC3. I hate the fact that Danuser has tried to make it all The Jailer instead.
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Jul 25, 2023 06:05
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Lord_Magmar posted:Technically, Loa is basically anything Troll's Worship, and this act of worship allows them to make deals with the Trolls as trades. Or at least, this is the best we can understand what is going on, since Loa can be anything (although they tend to be already powerful beings like Psychopomps or Wild Gods) and Loa have powers distinct from whatever their original powers should be (in the case of Wild Gods, Psychopomps maybe not so much). As a great example, I mentioned the Loa of Kings before, it's a giant Devilsaur (Tyranossaurus Rex) Wild God, but by being the Loa of the Kings, it became capable of using the Holy Light much the way its followers could through pacts and worship and faith with it. Loa without worshippers lose whatever Loa Magics they might have had, generally, and might even die unless they're sustained by being some other sort of great being already (A Wild God can survive without followers but won't have Loa powers anymore for example). This is also why not all Loa are Wild Gods, like Bwonsamdi who was once a mortal troll priest of Mueh'zala the Loa of Death. Mueh'zala was the archetypical monstrous personification of death, the sacrifice and blood demanding type, and after a time he gave some powers as a Loa to a particularly powerful and fast talking priest in Bwonsamdi . Bwonsamdi then proceded to basically fast talk, wheel and deal his way to becoming a more softer cooler less blood-thirsty god of death who basically assumed the majority of the Loa of Death powers. Mueh'zala held on because one tribe (Sandfury) still liked him more.
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Tenebrais posted:The moment that started playing I was almost tempted to go check out WoW again. I listen to video game music a lot when I'm at work, or at home and not playing a game where I want the sound on. Personally I prefer music that's purely orchestral or uses voices in a choral sense rather than making lyrics the focus. Directly lyrical music tends to distract me, and many tracks on my curated playlist on youtube are from games I no longer play (and in a few cases, have never played at all). The World of Warcraft selections in my playlist: Totems of the Grizzlemaw, Grizzly Hills day theme. Mountains of Thunder, Storm Peaks day theme. The Spark of Imagination, Ulduar raid theme. Invincible, the Lich King's theme. Breath of Al'Akir, Skywall dungeon/raid theme. The Shaping of the World, composed for launch WoW but never used in-game until Warlords of Draenor.
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Jul 25, 2023 13:51
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I did the math tonight on my progress with Warcraft. Right now, I have completed and posted updates for no less than 88 missions of Warcraft. #89 has been recorded but not yet written up or posted. 49 more to go. Jesus.
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Jul 27, 2023 03:20
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And we haven't even hit the high point yet! Also, I'm glad the potoo is back 
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Jul 27, 2023 03:36
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Cythereal posted:I did the math tonight on my progress with Warcraft. Right now, I have completed and posted updates for no less than 88 missions of Warcraft. #89 has been recorded but not yet written up or posted.
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Jul 27, 2023 03:42
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You are definitely in the easy part of the project. Jump to Normal if you are interested but Story will always be there to Just Get Through. Lance of Llanwyln posted:If it makes you feel better, you’re doing a great job! 
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Jul 27, 2023 04:16
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Wonder how many updates the Orc 'campaign' in TFT is gonna take up. I did enjoy that one though.
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:If it makes you feel better, you’re doing a great job! very much so
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:If it makes you feel better, you’re doing a great job! 
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I really appreciate it y'all. As a little bonus, here's explanations for the concept art I've used in my previous Craft of War essays.  Concept art of the main gates of Ironforge in WoW, never seen closed in-game.  Artist's rendition to the gateway to the Zul'Gurub raid in WoW.  Promotional art for WoW: Battle for Azeroth depicting the city of Boralus in flames.  Concept art for Blackrock Mountain in WoW.  Concept art and loading screen for Skywall, the elemental plane of air used in a dungeon and raid or two in WoW.  Ulduar concept art.  Artist's portrayal of that time in WoW a crazy elf incel opened a wormhole to the lost world of Argus.  Concept and loading screen for the Maelstrom.  Promotional art of the Sunwell's restoration being visible from orbit.  Promotional art of the night elf capital of Zin-Azshari before its destruction.
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I'm fairly sure that's Zul'Aman: -Pine trees -Grey/blue buildings -Big palisade gate -Those stone claw... things? Last one looks like it might be from the Azshara Warbringer short too.
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Jul 27, 2023 19:08
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Crazy elf incel? 
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Jul 27, 2023 21:37
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Slaan posted:Crazy elf incel? NOBODY TELL THEM UNTIL THE MOMENT COMES!
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Jul 27, 2023 21:47
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I mean Illidan does need to get laid
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Come the gently caress on, we aren't even finished with the first campaign yet 
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Oh, Illidan. Yeah, that description makes sense
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Honestly, at this rate I'm not remotely surprised that when I make a sarcastic reference to a character we haven't met in the LP yet, the first reply is confusion about my joke, the second reply is someone begging the thread to not explain the joke, and the third reply is someone explaining the joke. 
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