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S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Ristolaz posted:

I am definitely going to play some games of epic with my AT titans if possible (and if it isnt horrible to play against) and if the rules for aircraft are fun I'll probably pick some up

They explicitly said the scale would be the same, I would imagine any titans on the field are going to be vastly simplified compared to their AT counterparts

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Ristolaz
Sep 29, 2005

By completely blowing off my BS you have passed the first trial

S.J. posted:

They explicitly said the scale would be the same, I would imagine any titans on the field are going to be vastly simplified compared to their AT counterparts

Yeah I just hope that

A) having an all-titan list is possible in the army construction rules and some level of viable (like you don't need infantry to capture objectives etc) and,

B) it isnt unfun for someone without a ton of anti-titan weapons in their list to play against

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


I have a gut feeling that Warhounds are in the launch box and Dire Wolves are being done in plastic because Warhound-class titans are the most likely ones to be seen unless you are playing an absolutely fuckhueg game and Reavers+ become legal/viable.

Love to be proven wrong and I can have a Warlord or a Warmaster eat faces from the word go!

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


You’re almost certainly going to need infantry to hold objectives.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Ristolaz posted:

Yeah I just hope that

A) having an all-titan list is possible in the army construction rules and some level of viable (like you don't need infantry to capture objectives etc) and,

B) it isnt unfun for someone without a ton of anti-titan weapons in their list to play against

There is a zero percent chance of this being the case, sorry

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



They've specifically mentioned combined arms, so straight running your AT maniple in Epic probably isn't an option.

This might mean you only need to add knights and some flyers maybe, though.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Robert Facepalmer posted:

I have a gut feeling that Warhounds are in the launch box and Dire Wolves are being done in plastic because Warhound-class titans are the most likely ones to be seen unless you are playing an absolutely fuckhueg game and Reavers+ become legal/viable.

Love to be proven wrong and I can have a Warlord or a Warmaster eat faces from the word go!

Currently in a regular tournament game you can expect to be able to field up to and including a Warlord. IMO it is challenging to build a 3k list with a Warlord and hope to play consistently. I tend to always field a Reaver instead, they are a great compromise. If you didn't take a battle titan it would behove you to take at least a single warhound.

S.J. posted:

There is a zero percent chance of this being the case, sorry

In the current edition you can field all titan lists. No one considers them OP, if anything they are super challenging to wield because of how few formations you have. It sounds like this might not be feasible in the upcoming edition, but that will depend heavily on how objectives are controlled and how lists are built.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Virtual Russian posted:

In the current edition you can field all titan lists. No one considers them OP, if anything they are super challenging to wield because of how few formations you have. It sounds like this might not be feasible in the upcoming edition, but that will depend heavily on how objectives are controlled and how lists are built.

Sure, but I can't imagine GW cares about that one bit. The current edition doesn't have a bunch of new plastic models GW is trying to sell. I imagine they're going to push the marines and their other new plastics pretty hard since it's the focus of the setting anyways. I'd love to be wrong!

S.J. fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Jul 8, 2023

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Hard to say, Epic always gets treated slightly differently. They've also reassured current epic players that this edition isn't going to be a departure from what came before. I think they are aware that people really liked Epic, and wanted Epic back, not a new game in a similar scale.

What I will say though is that the online Epic community will 100% create that list and balance it. I know unofficial lists aren't everyone's cup of tea, but that is what kept the game alive since Armageddon was discontinued. Furthermore, I imagine GW wants to roll all us grognards into the new edition, I would bet if people are making and playing titan legion lists GW is going to try to bring those into the fold, especially if it doesn't require any new models on their behalf.

HidaO-Win
Jun 5, 2013

"And I did it, because I was a man who had exhausted reason and thus turned to magicks"
GW described the full starter set of 2 Warhound Titans and the attendant infantry and tanks as quite a small army and that most armies would have over a hundred pieces in them.

With that kind of scale being able to field a titan maniple as a significant chunk of your force seems possible.

Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe
Crosspost from the painting thread. I'm still bummed these haven't made it to plastic.



Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Hopefully one day friend; and I hope tech thralls do too. Those look great btw!

with a rebel yell she QQd
Jan 18, 2007

Villain


Oath thread crosspost. Painted my Sevatar.

Major Spag
Nov 4, 2012
Heresy dies by the hands of the tactical marine, not by the mechanization of its leaders.





Bonus picture of the full squad of 15



And a zoom in of some model interaction

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Hell yeah

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]
So someone on Facebook is very convinced that GW is dropping a new 30k boxed set some time within the next two months with, specifically, 20 of the new Mark IIIs, a plastic Deredeo, a Land Raider Proteus, and a new HQ model. Being GW, it's inevitable that, on a long enough timeline, Heresy will eventually get some sort of new boxed set, but that's an awfully specific timeline and inventory for a random Facebook commenter to front surety about. Has there been some sort of supply chain leak?

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Stephenls posted:

So someone on Facebook is very convinced that GW is dropping a new 30k boxed set some time within the next two months with, specifically, 20 of the new Mark IIIs, a plastic Deredeo, a Land Raider Proteus, and a new HQ model. Being GW, it's inevitable that, on a long enough timeline, Heresy will eventually get some sort of new boxed set, but that's an awfully specific timeline and inventory for a random Facebook commenter to front surety about. Has there been some sort of supply chain leak?

There was a promo image a month or two back with redesigned MkIII, a Deredeo, and a LR Proteus in the same style as the current AoD box art. There was a lot of commentary afterwards that this was a sign of a box set to come.

Release date, though? Who knows.

e: vvvvv that's right, forgot the road map.

Lucinice
Feb 15, 2012

You look tired. Maybe you should stop posting.
The roadmap said new plastic armor marks and dreadnoughts would be in Autumn

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
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Ah, that makes sense! Confident specific extrapolation from vague currently available art, rather than a leak. Thanks.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



That's coming close on the heels of the plastic Lancer, has any game gotten recent back-to-back $200+USD boxes?

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
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I doubted it myself, but it was awfully specific to be random guess. It makes more sense as a random guess if the person making it is just assuming "Everything in this one piece of art must be coming out in a big boxed set," though.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I guess the Lancer isn't a technically Marine release and the box would be.

Seems double weird that they'd put it out with epic and a new knight.

That's a lot of unexpected competition for my Heresy dollars for one month.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

SkyeAuroline posted:

There was a promo image a month or two back with redesigned MkIII, a Deredeo, and a LR Proteus in the same style as the current AoD box art. There was a lot of commentary afterwards that this was a sign of a box set to come.

Release date, though? Who knows.

e: vvvvv that's right, forgot the road map.

Man, if that drops in September, I'll be pissed. Legions is supposed to be released in August, and won't have the time to internally justify dipping back into 28mm again, even for Mk3s and Proteus.

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]

JcDent posted:

Man, if that drops in September, I'll be pissed. Legions is supposed to be released in August, and won't have the time to internally justify dipping back into 28mm again, even for Mk3s and Proteus.

The Land Raider Proteus at least is already out.

(If it does turn out this hypothetical boxed set has one, I'm going to be annoyed at myself for having bought one separately....)

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

quote:

The Space Marine Legions are known for their favoured tactics and specialisms, and all 18 have their own special rule. Importantly, each Formation you select can be from a different Legion – after all, the biggest engagements saw multiple Legions fighting shoulder to shoulder – giving you extra tactical depth.*

Normally, I'm not a fan of soup, but with having Formations - like chibi armies - from different Legions appeals to me from collecting standpoint. Maybe I'd be able to contain myself and have Formations from all the Legions?

Unlikely, lol, but a man can dream.

Bullbar
Apr 18, 2007

The Aristocrats!
Despite already having a mountain of unpainted plastic from 40k and AoS, I impulse bought myself the Age of Darkness box. Mostly because I was excited for Legions Imperialis I think and couldn't wait.

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Bullbar posted:

Mostly because I was excited for Legions Imperialis I think and couldn't wait.

Well...

Bullbar
Apr 18, 2007

The Aristocrats!

It's pretty imminent right? My impulsiveness knows no bounds

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


It has been pushed back to 'a little later in the year', which certainly is open to interpretation.

Hey, now you have more time to paint the AoD box stuff!

Bullbar
Apr 18, 2007

The Aristocrats!
Ah! Oh well, like you say more time to dig into this box. I'm definitely leaning towards Death Guard.

I'm going to be painting my untouched Indomitus box first for practice. And getting my kids and girlfriend involved with that too

Assessor of Maat
Nov 20, 2019

Finished that apothecary off:



Pleased with how it turned out, and I think I've got a grip on how to paint the rest of the army now, so that's nice.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Assessor of Maat posted:

Finished that apothecary off:



Pleased with how it turned out, and I think I've got a grip on how to paint the rest of the army now, so that's nice.

Do not let this marine touch you, he's not a real doctor.

(Looks fantastic)

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
haha, yes

Lucinice
Feb 15, 2012

You look tired. Maybe you should stop posting.
We got the PDF for the daemon engines

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/15/exemplary-battles-of-the-horus-heresy-daemon-engines-arrive-to-reap-a-bloody-toll/

Electric Hobo
Oct 22, 2008


Grimey Drawer
Finally, a use for tacticals.

Electric Hobo posted:

The most radical heretic in the legion.



Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Good lord

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Thunder Hawk's Pro Skater

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
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Not sure individually magnetizing all the Cataphractii components was wise. At least they're primed, though.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


That’s one way to get the complete value out of the kit

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Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]

Endman posted:

That’s one way to get the complete value out of the kit

It’s less about getting the full value out of the plastic kit and more about getting the full value out of the ForgeWorld weapon options, to be honest.

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