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Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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And if you're playing with Haciendas, the fertilizer makes them even more insane. Not as powerful as mechanization but still powerful and both together is disgusting

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Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

The Cheshire Cat posted:

Tractors are even more absurd in the New World because of the space efficiency of hacienda farms; mechanizing them barely makes them any bigger at all. I used to have a lot of problems just finding space for all my goddamn plantations before Seeds of Change but it's a lot easier to keep up with rum production now.

Oh yeah I massively reduced the footprint around my Hacienda. Got electric up too so managed to reduce the footprint even further. Realised that I was taking up so much space making beer and only just noticed that it just gives me happiness and coins and not extra pop so deleted all that poo poo.

Single Tight Female
Jan 17, 2008
You can just use Gordon the Master Grocer in your New World town halls anyway. It's especially silly on Hacienda Artistas, $60 a house.

pokchu
Aug 22, 2007
D:
Just picked this up again.

Oh man, that itch.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

1) try tractors in Enbesa, the settlements on your farm islands there can be like a dozen houses tops

2) lmao how did I never think of using Gordon overseas

pokchu
Aug 22, 2007
D:
Oh man, being able to make stamps rules.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
I like Taka's Discord stamps a lot. If others know of good stamp locations, please post!

pokchu
Aug 22, 2007
D:
So the last time I played was before the most recent Year 4 DLC or whatever. Should I even bother with building New World islands without the Hacienda?

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

You have to build one regular town to make the initial unlocks, and you’ll have to upgrade to a regular Obrero and Artista house before you get the Hacienda versions.

Long term farming is going to take up the most space in the New World, probably, so it deffo seems like the farms are a better use of Hacienda space than houses, especially early on.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
On smaller islands you might as well build hacienda houses as well since they're more space efficient than normal houses (just barely) and the hacienda radius can easily cover the entire island. On larger ones it is usually better to use that space for the incredibly space efficient plantations and just put regular houses outside the hacienda range. It does seem like there's never a reason not to build a hacienda, the extra space you gain from hacienda plantations more than makes up for the footprint of the hacienda itself.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Yeah, the hacienda industries (super small farms, the incredibly powerful fertilizer industry, and to a lesser degree the distilleries) are more valuable than the houses I feel. Normal villages are better, at least on the larger islands. On the smaller islands you might as well use the hacienda houses since the hacienda range will eventually cover the island anyways.

Just be careful with the hacienda distilleries: they have negative beauty scores.

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Huh, I finally sat down and have been trying the scenarios, since it's been ages since I last played.
The whole 'a few bits and pieces are kept between retries' part really made me wonder if it was a bug or something, but I guess it's a small extra progression thing to make future gold attempts easier?

I restarted the Seasons of Silver one after I had misinterpreted what had to be built on the oasis/irrigated land and not.
And when I did, the extra islands already had harbors, and the hacienda was already fixed.

Is there an overview anywhere of what kinda stuff is 'permanent' between tries?

e: Oh gently caress right off. I thought there would be a 5th delivery, and was goddamn 5 coins short of hitting gold. If I was aware it was the last one I'd just have ramped up production a tiny bit more.

SubNat fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jul 30, 2023

Your Brain on Hugs
Aug 20, 2006
I have an issue in Land of Lions in the quest where Abel takes you on a tour of his village, then goes to the top of the hill and you're asked to click on stuff and he'll tell you about it. I've clicked on everything you can highlight I can see but the quest hasn't completed, is it bugged or am I missing something?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Your Brain on Hugs posted:

I have an issue in Land of Lions in the quest where Abel takes you on a tour of his village, then goes to the top of the hill and you're asked to click on stuff and he'll tell you about it. I've clicked on everything you can highlight I can see but the quest hasn't completed, is it bugged or am I missing something?

At some point I think he kind of wanders off and asks you to talk to the old lady who keeps the history. She's standing in the courtyard of the house at the very top of the village.

Anyways, if this helps here's a walk through for the entire quest chain for Waha Desher: https://anno1800.fandom.com/wiki/Waha_Desher_storyline Obviously spoilers if you read ahead but you can find the step you're at and figure out what's going weird. It's not the best guide but hopefully it helps?

Alkydere fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Aug 1, 2023

Vier
Aug 5, 2007

Are all content DLCs within the 4 season pass DLCs?
Trying to figure out if its cheaper to buy individually or buy the season passes.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

Yeah every game mechanic is in one of the Season DLCs, anything outside of that is either strictly cosmetic, or cosmetic with a scenario.

Single Tight Female
Jan 17, 2008
Each season pass contains 3 dlc, and is priced roughly the same as buying 2 of them individually, so you're getting one for "free". The scenarios are either free or included with the season 4 dlcs.

Vier
Aug 5, 2007

LonsomeSon posted:

Yeah every game mechanic is in one of the Season DLCs, anything outside of that is either strictly cosmetic, or cosmetic with a scenario.

Perfect, thanks I was hoping they would come on sale but will make the plunge and pick up the first season to keep me going.

Your Brain on Hugs
Aug 20, 2006
What's the easiest scenario to do if I want to get some tickets to make my sandbox games easier?

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Possibly the 'install the mod that lets you earn some golden tickets from hosting the Annoversary at the world fair' scenario.

Otherwise Eden burning is possible to complete in under 2 hours for gold, but i dunno how much you get for repeats.

I got like 700ish from going through Eden and silver one atleast.

pokchu
Aug 22, 2007
D:
Is there some sort of special unlock to be able to build the Zephyr or the rest of the high end arctic gas airships? I can see everything of the Helum ones, including ones I haven't met the unlock conditions for, but for Arctic Gas I can't see anything beyond the Hermes/Boreas on the construction page in the hangar.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Have you done The Passage and unlocked Arctic Gas/the original airships? I know that locks some features of Empire of the Skies (mainly being able to build hydrogen airships/the Boreas class blimps)

pokchu
Aug 22, 2007
D:
I figured it out: they literally don't show up until you meet the Obrero reqs for the Helium airships!

Your Brain on Hugs
Aug 20, 2006
I'm finally doing a proper run through with all the DLCs and I've been taking it slow, just got up to investors on Crown Falls. I've finished land of lions and got the research institute, finished the passage and have a couple airships.

I'm trying to figure out how to build up crown Falls with a minimal amount of extra islands and shipping goods between sessions everywhere. Any tips?

I need to split out my farms from my heavy industry and was thinking about moving construction material production off island because I have so much of it stored now.

I know I need to start developing the new world soon, I've managed to get away without it so far. Also not sure how to use docklands in the most efficient way.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

This is a game about having a lot of shipping between islands and between sessions, building over all of Crown Falls because you want to keep agriculture and industry there sounds like a god drat nightmare.

In particular, for Tourist stuff, you want quite a few kinds of factories to be where the rubes can't smell them. Usually I grab up the nearest normal-sized island to Crown Falls and make it my dirty-industry island. This makes it basically a secondary hub, and once production gets up to 100k+ Investors levels there are plenty of trade routes coming in from other sessions just to drop off raw materials here and leave without ever stopping at the Cape.

Make extensive use of the Categories function for Trade Routes, I have a category for every major destination (one for each session, one for the industry island, one for Crown Falls) and put a three-letter abbreviation for the session where some or all of the goods are coming from at the beginning of the route name. That last causes the trade routes to sort alphabetically by session origin when you expand their category, it's helpful for when you have over two dozen routes just bringing things in to Crown Falls.

As far as I know productivity of farms isn't affected by Appeal, the way that pollution would degrade them in Anno 2070, so you can keep farms on an island with the factories they're feeding if you have the fertility.

For the Docklands, pick something that you're always going to have more throughput capacity for than you utilize and just start trading that. A good example is construction goods, you want to have a lot of production on call so when you suddenly spend 500 wood on housing and upgrades, inventory refills at a decent clip. Set the trade floor high enough that you've still got supplies around for construction, trade away large amounts of wood and bricks for small amounts of other stuff in order to work through the import unlocks.

If you get a Trade Union specialist who gives you extra goods per X cycles, which you want to have reliably, you need to keep empty space in your warehouses for more of the primary good you're producing and that's a great loving candidate for a Docklands export item to level up. There's a brickworks dude who gives you pearls as long as you're making bricks, and also a clay pit dude who gives you pearls I'm pretty sure and maybe some other stuff. None of that is unAppealing to tourists, so you can use the University to stack up your clay pits in a Trade Union and let the rest of the world build their cities out of Crown Falls brick while you're swimming in pearls.

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!
Can you hunt for a specific set of animals on zoological expedtions by going on them from other areas or is it just random?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



It's just random.

If you're hunting for a specific one you'll want to get the research institute from Land of Lions.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
Also if you're looking for that one specific animal you need for one of the Land of Lions quests, Ketema sells it from his port on Taborime. You might have to refresh the inventory a bunch of times but it's more reliable than sending out expeditions and hoping for the best. If you're trying to complete a set, then yeah there's not really a lot you can do without the research institute, you just have to get lucky.

Single Tight Female
Jan 17, 2008
Well each expedition has a difficulty rating which affects item rarity and is set in a certain area of the world which affects the pool it pulls from. So it's not entirely random - if you do a 3 star zoo expedition to the Arctic, you're more likely to come back with a Narwhal or whatever. But it's still so highly random as to not really be worth doing, if you can just research it instead.

You can zoom out to the world map to see where the expedition is going to.

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Been doing a new round to catch up on the last season or so of content I haven't run through yet, been putting of LoL a bit since it demands so much direct attention for some of the questlines.

Ketema isn't going to know what hit him when I roll up with a fleet of airships to blot out the skies, oceans of oil, and mountains of fertilizer.
Could probably feed the entire nation off of just an island or two with all that poo poo.

I really wonder how Anno 8 is going to stack up, following up a mega-expanded, super successful iteration of a series is never easy.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

SubNat posted:

Been doing a new round to catch up on the last season or so of content I haven't run through yet, been putting of LoL a bit since it demands so much direct attention for some of the questlines.

Ketema isn't going to know what hit him when I roll up with a fleet of airships to blot out the skies, oceans of oil, and mountains of fertilizer.
Could probably feed the entire nation off of just an island or two with all that poo poo.

I really wonder how Anno 8 9 is going to stack up, following up a mega-expanded, super successful iteration of a series is never easy.

They will almost certainly not meet their usual 5 year cycle this time (or is it 4?) because they spent so much time on 1800. But that's fine, there's enough content in 1800 to make that extra year satisfying, especially now that they support mods and stamps.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

spaaaaaaaaace again please

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008


The next one is the 8th game, I imagine they'll want to hold on to the "Anno 9" card until the 9th one. Even though it'll be almost a decade until then.
It's just easier to refer to it as Anno8 until it has a name. (Wasn't the largest expanse of the Roman empire in 117 or so?)


boar guy posted:

spaaaaaaaaace again please

Yes por favor, or just any scifi really. Really love the futuristic designs the Anno team whips out.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

boar guy posted:

spaaaaaaaaace again please

Yup. I've completely skipped 1800 because I don't like the historical setting and have been eagerly waiting for them to stop making DLC and announce the next game.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



My fear is that they'll do a Mediterranean one next. Which at the very least will be a break from Ye Olde European Middle Ages of sail.

My hope is that they'll do a spess/sci fi one or something completely off the wall for the next one and then save the Mediterrenean one for Anno 9, because then it will be the 9th Anno.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
I want an Asian one myself. We saw the Orient in (was it 1602?) but it was a backwater and named the Orient on top of that :). So let's get a true southeast Asian or even Pacific Islander game.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

Mayveena posted:

I want an Asian one myself. We saw the Orient in (was it 1602?) but it was a backwater and named the Orient on top of that :). So let's get a true southeast Asian or even Pacific Islander game.

They called the Arabian/persian islands in 1404 the orient. I haven't played an anno before that.

Shivers
Oct 31, 2011
I know alot of people like the sci-fi Anno's, and I like them too, but I think the game works best in a historical setting.
Personally, I hope the next one they do is Ancient Greece. It fits perfectly in the Anno mold. You've got colonizing islands, trading exotic goods and building magnificent monuments. And you can go many places for different biomes/peoples. Egypt, Persia, Gaul or the steppe around modern Ukraine/Crimea, you name it.

Either that or I hope they go do something completely different than the basics of ships and islands. Anno Golden Age of Islam, where in addition of travelling around with ships you send of caravans of camels to Africa/Asia and ships to Europe/Indonesia. Although I think the chance of this happening is pretty slim, because they already sort of did that with Anno 1404.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


I love the flavor and setting of 1800 so much. They nail all the little details so well. I've never fallen in love with any of the sci fi stuff in the same way.

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Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
My ideal game is 1800 except with the good register from 2205, which accounts for how much the island is receiving/sending per minute. I hate having to eyeball that stuff.

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