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Dwesa posted:anyway, I guess these are no longer relevant Oh it's this guy. Did his escape plan involve a santa suit and a sled pulled by a dog with a fake antler?
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Aug 2, 2023 21:27
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Bluemillion posted:Oh it's this guy. Did his escape plan involve a santa suit and a sled pulled by a dog with a fake antler? It mostly involved preemptively confessing.
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Aug 2, 2023 21:29
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https://twitter.com/SarahAshtonLV/status/1686643729292017665?s=20 Want a drink, ivan conscriptovich?
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Aug 2, 2023 21:31
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They never learn, do they? this poo poo's happened too many times to count already and by now you'd think they'd have wised up, but nope.
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Aug 2, 2023 21:32
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OK I get go to Africa and force children into the mines or whatever, but the whole attack Poland thing is  Attack them and do what exactly? Conquer territory? Find and loot some toilets and washing machines from whatever the Polish equivalent of Home Depot is? HonorableTB posted:https://twitter.com/SarahAshtonLV/status/1686643729292017665?s=20 Wonder how many you could get with just making no head-cut Vodka and leaving the methanol in? Oscar Wilde Bunch fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Aug 2, 2023 |
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Aug 2, 2023 21:39
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zone posted:They never learn, do they? this poo poo's happened too many times to count already and by now you'd think they'd have wised up, but nope. Don't take food or drink from strangers. Don't stand in formation within HIMARS range. Don't bring boats close to the shore. Don't send with no bullets on an attack. They really haven't learned much at all since the start of this thing.
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Aug 2, 2023 21:49
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Don’t invade Ukraine 🇺🇦
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Aug 2, 2023 21:55
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1686789267027095557#m He's probably done for. Can't say as i'm surprised this is how it might go down.
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Aug 2, 2023 21:59
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https://twitter.com/sambendett/status/1686340262048497664 How likely is this scenario?
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Aug 2, 2023 22:00
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/sambendett/status/1686340262048497664 Might not be wholly effective as hitting Crimea with dozens of drones at once, given the huge amounts of EW and air defense relocated to Moscow, but this is only in case they didn't make the drones very resistant to EW jamming. e: this doesn't allow for if Ukraine managed to find a weak spot in the defenses to fly their drones through, though.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:02
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HonorableTB posted:The "native russian speaker" part is an odd jab, what do you mean with that? Because it's not really a choice? Native tongues might be used in private or with family but it's RF with an emphasis on the R
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Aug 2, 2023 22:06
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:OK I get go to Africa and force children into the mines or whatever, but the whole attack Poland thing is These bozos were no poo poo drinking industrial alcohol by the crate during the siege of Kherson. They also, according to the conversations of mobiks that get intercepted on the regular, use vodka as an internal currency to buy their necessities.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:09
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zone posted:These bozos were no poo poo drinking industrial alcohol by the crate during the siege of Kherson. They also, according to the conversations of mobiks that get intercepted on the regular, use vodka as an internal currency to buy their necessities. That's every nation's conscript soldier in every war ever
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Aug 2, 2023 22:13
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Dwesa posted:anyway, I guess these are no longer relevant lmao
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Aug 2, 2023 22:13
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/sambendett/status/1686340262048497664 Probably low. Seems like a waste of resources for an attack that large which won't change the battlefield. A few drones here and there to remind Moscow it's in a war is enough.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:14
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Not much value in a massed drone attack on Moscow City, there are plenty of military targets there but the risk of civilian collateral damage is too high. If you can do a mass drone attack on a city you can do it even better on the battlefield closer to you rather than 800 km away in hostile territory
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Aug 2, 2023 22:16
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pro starcraft loser posted:Probably low. Seems like a waste of resources for an attack that large which won't change the battlefield. I think you're misjudging what a major attack would do to Russia's ability to project supply into Ukraine. I mean they could blow up fertilizer plants and cause huge explosions, or pop a few oil terminals and really make an impact on their exports which power up the war machine.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:17
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Victis posted:Because it's not really a choice? Native tongues might be used in private or with family but it's RF with an emphasis on the R Nobody said anything different, who are you arguing with?
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Aug 2, 2023 22:18
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I think you're misjudging what a major attack would do to Russia's ability to project supply into Ukraine. I mean they could blow up fertilizer plants and cause huge explosions, or pop a few oil terminals and really make an impact on their exports which power up the war machine. How would either of these examples impact Russia's ability to project supply into Ukraine?
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Aug 2, 2023 22:21
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I think you're misjudging what a major attack would do to Russia's ability to project supply into Ukraine. I mean they could blow up fertilizer plants and cause huge explosions, or pop a few oil terminals and really make an impact on their exports which power up the war machine. I was assuming these would be small payloads for psychological affect. If they target plants and terminals that'd make a big difference.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:21
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reminder that the drones doing this can only carry 20kg payloads so that uh, certainly limits your choices of available targets. a 20kg explosive would barely scratch most of the strategic industrial infrastructure gigolo is talking about
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Aug 2, 2023 22:23
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EasilyConfused posted:How would either of these examples impact Russia's ability to project supply into Ukraine? Destroying oil terminals close to Ukraine would mean that Russia has to find supply elsewhere to keep their tanks and vehicles fueled Fertilizer plants are a big Russian export and dropping them would just overall make it harder to keep finding replacement parts or smuggle electronics for cruise missiles in.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:23
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pro starcraft loser posted:I was assuming these would be small payloads for psychological affect. The only effective targets you'd get with a 20kg payload (which is what these drones carry) would be fuel terminals, air defense systems, and ammo dumps anyway.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:24
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HonorableTB posted:reminder that the drones doing this can only carry 20kg payloads so that uh, certainly limits your choices of available targets. a 20kg explosive would barely scratch most of the strategic industrial infrastructure gigolo is talking about Wait they're only 20KG? What about the 1000KM 75KG drones we heard about a few months or so ago? 20KG seems very small to do much with. An oil terminals has a lot of dainty parts on it though so I would think there are things that can be hit specifically to cause cascade effects
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Aug 2, 2023 22:26
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Wait they're only 20KG? What about the 1000KM 75KG drones we heard about a few months or so ago? 20kg payload
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Aug 2, 2023 22:27
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Wait they're only 20KG? What about the 1000KM 75KG drones we heard about a few months or so ago? 20kg payload. 75kg would be about 1.5x as strong as the Shahed's maximum payload (30-50kg). With drones you have to balance payload vs total weight vs range. Bigger bomb = heavier drone = shorter range is the general rule. You can tweak those values to get a drone that does what you want it to do decently well. Or if you're the United States, you throw $200 million at the problem and come out with an MQ-9 Reaper and never have to worry about it again HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Aug 2, 2023 |
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Aug 2, 2023 22:31
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Destroying oil terminals close to Ukraine would mean that Russia has to find supply elsewhere to keep their tanks and vehicles fueled Gotcha, misunderstood what you meant.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:38
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I've got Polish family by marriage and my kids go there to visit their cousins. I'm not worried in the slightest. Thanks, Nato.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:40
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I kind of chose those targets specifically to discuss because they feel to be the most explosive targets. As in Cascade effect is very possible. So the factory or terminal blews itself up with a small push.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:51
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GABA ghoul posted:How the gently caress was this idiot going to claim asylum in Hungary when he is a US citizen?
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Aug 2, 2023 22:55
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GABA ghoul posted:How the gently caress was this idiot going to claim asylum in Hungary when he is a US citizen? He did not experience any persecution in the US. I don't get it. They would just tell him to go home? they most certainly do not.
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Aug 2, 2023 22:57
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I kind of chose those targets specifically to discuss because they feel to be the most explosive targets. As in Cascade effect is very possible. So the factory or terminal blews itself up with a small push. things that go boom are typically built to make it very hard for outside explosive things to make it go boom, even in russia
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Aug 2, 2023 22:59
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Von Pluring posted:I've got Polish family by marriage and my kids go there to visit their cousins. I'm not worried in the slightest. Thanks, Nato. NATO had said that an attack by Wagner would be considered an attack by Russia. That's obviously true, but I wish they hadn't said that. An attack by Wanger that isn't tied to Russia means Poland and anyone else inclined could go ham on Wager. Even targeting sites inside Belarus. Russia couldn't claim they are under attack unless they admit Wagner was their men. Either way, Wagner is destroyed.
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Aug 2, 2023 23:00
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pro starcraft loser posted:NATO had said that an attack by Wagner would be considered an attack by Russia. That's obviously true, but I wish they hadn't said that. That's not really how that would work. If Poland targeted anything inside Belarus that would be the same as Poland targeting things inside Russia because of their Union State. And Russia doesn't deny Wagner's connection to the Russian government anymore anyway, Putin dropped that a while ago
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Aug 2, 2023 23:05
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Wouldn't an attack by a NATO member on a CSTO member trigger their equivalent to article 5? I doubt now that they have nukes stationed in Belarus that Russia would turn a blind eye like they did when Armenia and Azerbaijan last fought.
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Aug 2, 2023 23:08
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I really doubt anything at all will happen out of it. They're stupid but not completely suicidal. Anything minor will get swept under the rug so that we can keep pretending that nothing is happening.
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Aug 2, 2023 23:09
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weg posted:Wouldn't an attack by a NATO member on a CSTO member trigger their equivalent to article 5? I doubt now that they have nukes stationed in Belarus that Russia would turn a blind eye like they did when Armenia and Azerbaijan last fought. Lol when Russia doesn't activate Article 4.
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Aug 2, 2023 23:09
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weg posted:Wouldn't an attack by a NATO member on a CSTO member trigger their equivalent to article 5? I doubt now that they have nukes stationed in Belarus that Russia would turn a blind eye like they did when Armenia and Azerbaijan last fought. Probably, but considering Russia has turned a blind eye to all of the violations in the CSTO states recently, I would be shocked if any CSTO outside of Belarus would even consider helping Belarus or Russia if they were attacked. CSTO was basically finished by that.
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Aug 2, 2023 23:10
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weg posted:Wouldn't an attack by a NATO member on a CSTO member trigger their equivalent to article 5? I doubt now that they have nukes stationed in Belarus that Russia would turn a blind eye like they did when Armenia and Azerbaijan last fought. In theory yeah but as the CSTO's military capacity is 90% Russia, a Poland vs CSTO conflict is not much different than a Poland vs Russia conflict. It wouldn't turn into a NATO conflict in your scenario though because Article 5 can't be invoked for offensive action initiated by an alliance member.
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Aug 2, 2023 23:11
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zone posted:https://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-russian-territorial-defense-forces-at-the-border-with-ukraine-are-starting-to-be-armed/  The loving national chauvinist stupidity of Russia is astounding Yeah when you invade your neighbor they can attack you right back fuckwads. Did you really not even consider that possibility till now? TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 2, 2023 |
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