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Jerusalem posted:I was so confused by what the overall message they seemed to be going for was. At the end of the episode, the Grand Midwife asks Amy if she truly loves her children and it's treated like this big amazing moment of revelation when Amy says she does, and the Grand Midwife says that's all that really mattered. The sci-fi magazine Galaxy has their entire back catalogue up from the 1950s and there's some stories in there that made me feel a bit like that. For example - something happens on Earth that means nobody can have children. To see if it's the people or the place, they send two people (a soviet and an american of course) to the moon to see if they can have kids. About half of the story is them getting arsey about having to marry each other. The whole time I was thinking "wait, what, why does that have to happen" Just a strange glimpse into the mind of someone with a totally different worldview
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PostNouveau posted:Yeah the midwife is being a humongous rear end in a top hat for no apparent reason Only thing I can think of it was some 20 something writer's idea for the cure for post-partum depression? "Well if that's the way you feel we can just take the kids away from you."
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Only thing I can think of it was some 20 something writer's idea for the cure for post-partum depression? The guy who wrote this episode is 58
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Pretty forgettable episode, but not terrible. The big stuff just wasn't there, but there were a couple little touches I liked. The phones being answered by touching their nose was one of those little "ridiculous future tech" gags that were common in the original run. I also loved one of the kids reading a Ladybuggle comic when Amy was at the height of worrying they loved Leela more. The Yo Leela Leela episode is definitely my favorite Futurama ep that most people hated, so I dug that callback. The voice actors being so much older is kind of Simpsons level distracting now, though. I know it's not what the studios want, but I would love if the writers had the balls to actually age the characters up a little bit and transition to family-based sitcom instead of a work-based sitcom. They have the tarpit plot device to keep the characters looking the same, but a big part of the series' charm is the characters have some degree of growth over time (with some occasional resets). We'll see if Amy's kids are a staple or if they're never seen again. It'd be nice if they stuck around because it doesn't really make sense for her to be a wild party girl in her mid 40s. The ending obviously pointed in the direction of Fry and Leela having a kid together, so it'll be interesting to see if they actually go there. A wedding/pregnancy finale would be a welcome change from "this time we're together for real."
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Blind Pineapple posted:
Soon they won’t need a fake ID to rent ultraporn.
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Cojawfee posted:The guy who wrote this episode is 58 My gut feeling was in the other direction that the writers felt that they needed to pour out all that they had learned from parenthood to bond with their old fans and lecture/impart wisdom on younger viewers  . And then it was time to write the episode and it was like "Oh...um, I was tired a lot. It was hard. I got jealous when they liked a grandparent/aunt/uncle more. But love's important. I guess that's it. I'd have been upset if someone wanted to take them away for no reason."
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Aging the characters in real time would mean everyone's in their 50s. It can still be a work based sitcom
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Taear posted:Aging the characters in real time would mean everyone's in their 50s. Have they ever established how old all the characters are? Have one where Fry realizes he's now older than his father was the last time he saw him, then just have a joke where the characters remark on how short people's lives were 1000 years ago, Hermes is something like 87.
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Fry was in mid 20s when he was frozen, so he'd be about 48. It's never stated, but because of their connection I assume Leela is about the same age. Amy was a recent college grad in Season 1, so she's 45-ish. I can't remember the Professor's exact age, but there's a first run episode about him hitting a cutoff age where he would be shipped off to a big box "nursing home" planet. I think he was like 160-170, so he's pushing 200 now. Hermes never gets an exact age, but given his career bureaucrat status and teenage son, he'd probably be about 20-25 years older than Fry/Leela/Amy. If I could remember what Olympics he competed at, that would narrow it down even more. So he's approaching retirement age by 21st century standards at least. Bender and Zoidberg don't have the same aging conventions, although they each have some dedicated backstory episodes. Anyways, you always have the tar pit plot device they introduced in Season 3 or 4 to keep them looking the same, it's the mental/soical/emotional growth that matters.
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Senor Tron posted:Have they ever established how old all the characters are? On the long life spans, they returned to the old age retirement thing in a pretty bad Comedy Central episode where you find out the professor's PARENTS are still alive and living in the Matrix there.
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PostNouveau posted:On the long life spans, they returned to the old age retirement thing in a pretty bad Comedy Central episode where you find out the professor's PARENTS are still alive and living in the Matrix there. I thought that one was kinda sweet until the end where the twist was stupid.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:15
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Mooseontheloose posted:I thought that one was kinda sweet until the end where the twist was stupid. It wasn't an atrocity, but I didn't like pretty much all the flashbacks
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Aug 3, 2023 18:25
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In the episode where they turned young, the Professor's age is 161, though they mention at the end that the Fountain of Aging left him even older than he was at the start.
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Blind Pineapple posted:Fry was in mid 20s when he was frozen, so he'd be about 48. It's never stated, but because of their connection I assume Leela is about the same age. Hell, Bender also sat headless outside Roswell for 1000 years, he's downright ancient!
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Chairman Capone posted:In the episode where they turned young, the Professor's age is 161, though they mention at the end that the Fountain of Aging left him even older than he was at the start. Good point. You win Futurama today. Prize? The unfinished fan based Futurama game from the first message board that I ever joined.
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Hey I have a Futurama avatar. I thought the jokes in the episodes were funny but the plots were only ok. Better than I remember most of the movies and Comedy Central episodes were.
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Senor Tron posted:Have they ever established how old all the characters are? I mean, technically Fry is one billion years old considering what happened in The Late Philip J. Fry.
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Alhazred posted:I mean, technically Fry is one billion years old considering what happened in The Late Philip J. Fry. He's a lot more than a billion years old. He went through like 3 universe lifetimes.
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Aug 4, 2023 23:42
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Fry is 3.1 Bearimy Jeremys old.
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I liked the movies alright. I think they're a lot worse as 4 episodes
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GigaPeon posted:I thought the jokes in the episodes were funny but the plots were only ok. I think that's where I am on this season, too. The old seasons had their share of jokes which didn't land, but the plots themselves were usually gold.
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Aug 5, 2023 11:35
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For me the jokes don't work if the plot doesn't, which is why disenchanted was so loving awful. I guess I'm not necessarily looking for it to have good jokes, I just want it to be funny? Like Taskmaster or Bottom aren't full of "jokes", but they're funny That's what I want and old Futurama was like that. Same with simpsons.
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Disenchanted is one of the worst animated shows out there. Huge potential, but it's entirely wasted. Have a hard time thinking of other shows that do as much as it does too spite its audience. They're going for a huge arching narrative but undercut it at every opportunity, completely forget about their core character dynamics, and more or less abandon comedy in favor of the grand narrative - which again, they undercut with stupid developments every season. It is bewilderingly bad. Futurama may be a corpse clogging on, but at least it hasn't slipped into that kind of mess.
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The "huge game changing reveal" in the last season of the show that elves and trogs were actually related was perhaps the most insulting thing I've ever seen in a TV show. I mean, no loving poo poo. Trogs:  Elves:  Either the writers of the show are the stupidest motherfuckers out there, or they expect their audience to be.
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The reveals also consistently fall flat because the show refuses to commit to any change, and never does anything with said revelations. They press the reset switch every two episodes, and abandon season's worth of build up in favor of... nothing. It's impressively unsatisfying. One of the worst animated shows out there. Which continues to be a shame, as the art is really lovely and the potential is all there. But it's an absolutely miserable experience to watch. A show that gives two middle fingers to anyone who dare put any investment or interest in it, and isn't funny while it's doing so.
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3:How the West Was 1010001 Bender and the crew head west to join the bitcoin mining rush. 
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Megillah Gorilla posted:The "huge game changing reveal" in the last season of the show that elves and trogs were actually related was perhaps the most insulting thing I've ever seen in a TV show. They couldn't keep up the characterization of the main elf in the series who in the first episode isn't naive, just wants to not be in such a sachrine place all the time and then episode 2 made him dumb and naive.
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:3:How the West Was 1010001 Hopefully it's about them heading west to mine out old bitcoin miners that had become buried in the ground over the past thousand years.
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I hear they got internet out in Californy
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CatstropheWaitress posted:The reveals also consistently fall flat because the show refuses to commit to any change, and never does anything with said revelations. They press the reset switch every two episodes, and abandon season's worth of build up in favor of... nothing. It's impressively unsatisfying. One of the worst animated shows out there. The design and animation really is good. "Missed potential" describes it entirely.
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Mooseontheloose posted:They couldn't keep up the characterization of the main elf in the series who in the first episode isn't naive, just wants to not be in such a sachrine place all the time and then episode 2 made him dumb and naive. Yeah, that's probably the weirdest part. They love to throw away character motivations and backgrounds. Elfo just gets changed into a generic idiot. Luci is a devil on Bean's shoulder for about half a season until they just go ahead and make him an evil cat after all. The King gets retcons, softened up and rebooted. Even Bean went from being a party girl struggling under the medieval/fantasy setting into a generic adventurer looking for her past and then love. Again, such a waste.
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:Yeah, that's probably the weirdest part. They love to throw away character motivations and backgrounds. Elfo just gets changed into a generic idiot. Luci is a devil on Bean's shoulder for about half a season until they just go ahead and make him an evil cat after all. The King gets retcons, softened up and rebooted. Even Bean went from being a party girl struggling under the medieval/fantasy setting into a generic adventurer looking for her past and then love. Yeah, that show had everything to be great but the writing. I'm pretty sure the final shot with the mermaid was a very late addition when another renewal wasn't forthcoming, like Leela's line at the end of 'The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings.'
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There were some decent jokes but this episode really felt dated with the premise
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A bunch of old western jokes, was a pretty decent idea for an episode. Doing Bitcoin jokes in 2023 is just  . But I guess they probably wrote some of these episodes a couple years ago at this point...
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It's one of those things where The Simpsons / Futurama makes tons of "dated" references to random old poo poo, so if they just speckled in some jokes about Bitcoin it'd be fine - but yea having it as the entire premise feels weird. Especially when I haven't even really heard anyone talk about it in like the last 2 years. I do think there were a lot of funny bits, like the prospector being disappointed to find Ethereum instead lol. I feel like this episode will age better when crypto really is just a relic of the past.
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For the most part that felt like an original run episode, but one of the lower rung ones. A crypto storyline is great Futurama fodder, but just felt lazily done by it just straight up being Bitcoin. Like at least make the professor come in talking about Bytecoin, Leela talks about how that's a laughable long dead currency and then he says how this is a new revolutionary currency that's 8 times as good. A professional writer could do better than that, but there is so much potential for a bit of commentary.
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I'm just glad the only reference to it's volatile value was with the saloon owner's BPD. It's such a dead beaten joke.
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Yeah, episode was fine for the most part, certainly better than last week. I think my favorite joke was "It's a good thing we brought the oxen.... usually we don't."
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I enjoyed «its a brothel» «oh, a soup kitchen!»
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