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What's up my fellow "lost by a dollar on a perennial MVP candidate" friend?
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DeimosRising posted:Last year Jokic and Giannis went for over 700 Yeah, but prices are way down this year in general. People just didn’t rocket out of the gate spending like they did last year Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 01:21
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Deadbeat Dad posted:
Oh hell yeah
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Aug 3, 2023 01:23
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kingcobweb has signed Cam Johnson for $102.
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also giannis went day 1 last year, and jokic day 3
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Aug 3, 2023 01:30
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Jokic was an MVP last year. You don't pay MVP prices for 2nd place.
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Aug 3, 2023 01:31
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What's happening makes a lot of sense. People seem to be on the same page in terms of big time players but still lots of discrepancy for 4th/5th starters/rotation guys. It checks out in terms of how many dudes you can talk yourself into filling these roles.
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Aug 3, 2023 01:34
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I've actually just been bidding pretty badly
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Aug 3, 2023 01:40
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People in general are just playing a lot smarter this time around. We’ve had some real bad bids but people were throwing a hundred bucks at dudes barely in the nba last time around. It was wild
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Aug 3, 2023 01:46
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Paul Zuvella posted:People in general are just playing a lot smarter this time around. We’ve had some real bad bids but people were throwing a hundred bucks at dudes barely in the nba last time around. It was wild Are you still keeping track of our total spend?
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Aug 3, 2023 01:55
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DeimosRising posted:Are you still keeping track of our total spend? Yeah, right now we're at 48.3% of the cap vs 46.2% of the roster slots, so we are overspending slightly but not to degree that there is some huge correction coming later in the game. We should see the average bid go down slighty as we approach day 18 but at this point it won't be a major amount. That said, day 4 was a ludicrous outlier and it is effecting the data here. So I actually think we are probably in a slightly more unfavorable cap enviroment than it appears.
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Aug 3, 2023 02:10
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Aug 3, 2023 03:50
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Just got back from softball, got my guy 
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Aug 3, 2023 04:23
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Deadbeat Dad posted:
Deadbeat Dad posted:
Lmao that I pulled this poo poo twice At least I was closer this time
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Aug 3, 2023 04:30
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BWV has signed Jayson Tatum for $372.
Salvor_Hardin has signed Nikola Jokic for $570.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I deserve my ruin tbf Twice as nice
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Aug 3, 2023 04:30
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BWV posted:What's happening makes a lot of sense. People seem to be on the same page in terms of big time players but still lots of discrepancy for 4th/5th starters/rotation guys. It checks out in terms of how many dudes you can talk yourself into filling these roles. There are still some teams with a lot of money who could shotgun a bunch of respectable bids but clearly those GMs are intentionally waiting for a later moment to wade into things
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Aug 3, 2023 05:23
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The Jokic -> Bol Bol connection is going to be fire yall
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Aug 3, 2023 05:51
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Fast Luck posted:I think a lot of it is down to how you can get spread pretty thin and have to just pick a couple of guys to target at this point. So someone might bid a totally reasonable $50 but no one else commits to taking a real run at that guy and then the second place bid is like $10. I'm not really waiting to wade in I'm just throwing out a bunch of bids that I expect to lose on because occasionally one of them hits for whatever reason. I expected to lose on every single rotation player I've won by like at least $20. This could end up being trouble down the road when I'm trying to fill out the last few spots on my roster but we're not quite halfway through yet so I'm just going to not worry about that unless it's still the case on like Monday or something.
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Aug 3, 2023 16:42
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IcePhoenix posted:I'm not really waiting to wade in I'm just throwing out a bunch of bids that I expect to lose on because occasionally one of them hits for whatever reason. I expected to lose on every single rotation player I've won by like at least $20. Yeah I’ve been bidding and very close on several guys, including some of the big money players. I just haven’t hit on one yet.
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Aug 3, 2023 17:20
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I think I’ve been the number two bid on at least 3 top level guys at this point.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:17
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Idk if any of you play TFT/Auto Chess but playing this game really makes me wish that the NBA had an auto battler. There’s a lot of fun potential in that.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:17
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Yeah I mostly haven't been overbidding I think, but I've won a lot of guys so now it's a bit different, like with my remaining cash on hand I have to look at like Aaron Gordon and Cameron Johnson and just choose one to bid on because I don't have the money to bid on both. (I chose Cameron Johnson btw because I thought Aaron Gordon would cost too much... hm. lost because I also pulled out some cash to float a bid on Sochan)
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Aug 3, 2023 18:18
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You also have to consider how you are playing. Like Aaron Gordon is rated really highly in the sim, but I think most fans probably wouldn’t rate him as one of the 25 best players in the league or whatever.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:26
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a new study bible! posted:Idk if any of you play TFT/Auto Chess but playing this game really makes me wish that the NBA had an auto battler. There’s a lot of fun potential in that. I play a shitload of tft!! Got masters in a couple previous sets when I had a lot of time to devote to ~studying~ the game.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:46
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a new study bible! posted:You also have to consider how you are playing. Like Aaron Gordon is rated really highly in the sim, but I think most fans probably wouldn’t rate him as one of the 25 best players in the league or whatever. Maybe not top 25 but he's not that far off, y'all are underrating him. He legitimately guards 1-5 for the Nuggets, and their strategy of saving playing him at the 5 when Jokic was on the bench turned their biggest regular-season weakness into something of a strength. His finishing around the rim is great, and that's a legitimate skill; if it was as simple as "get the ball from Jokic" then the Nuggets would have been able to find someone else to do what he does.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:53
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kingcobweb posted:I play a shitload of tft!! Got masters in a couple previous sets when I had a lot of time to devote to ~studying~ the game. I always think about what the traits would be for an NBA themed set.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:53
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kingcobweb posted:Maybe not top 25 but he's not that far off, y'all are underrating him. He legitimately guards 1-5 for the Nuggets, and their strategy of saving playing him at the 5 when Jokic was on the bench turned their biggest regular-season weakness into something of a strength. His finishing around the rim is great, and that's a legitimate skill; if it was as simple as "get the ball from Jokic" then the Nuggets would have been able to find someone else to do what he does. IMO it's less that "anyone could do it" and more that "he couldn't do it with anyone" if that makes sense?
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Aug 3, 2023 18:56
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kingcobweb posted:Maybe not top 25 but he's not that far off, y'all are underrating him. He legitimately guards 1-5 for the Nuggets, and their strategy of saving playing him at the 5 when Jokic was on the bench turned their biggest regular-season weakness into something of a strength. His finishing around the rim is great, and that's a legitimate skill; if it was as simple as "get the ball from Jokic" then the Nuggets would have been able to find someone else to do what he does. I’m not trying to hate on him. He’s clearly a perfect fit for Denver. I just agree with whoever said it above that if you remove him from that condition he’s not nearly as good. We’ll have to see Paul’s final team to make that judgement, but I think the number in Griggs sheet is generally high for him. It might differ in DBDs sim though, since I know those numbers are variable. There are a lot of guys rated too high in the sim though imo.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:56
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a new study bible! posted:I always think about what the traits would be for an NBA themed set. Hmm, good question. The instant instinct is to make skills like "ball handler" into a trait, but that doesn't work because five PGs or five rim-protecting bigs definitely don't have synergy with one another. You could either do "origins" as either the team they play for or something related to how they got to the NBA, like Euros, one and done, G League, second round picks. Then for the other trait you could have what their style is, like a "fundamentals" trait with John Stockton (4-cost) and Tim Duncan (5-cost) or "streetball" with Jason Williams and idk who else I just want Jason Williams to be in the game
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Aug 3, 2023 18:58
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a new study bible! posted:I’m not trying to hate on him. He’s clearly a perfect fit for Denver. I just agree with whoever said it above that if you remove him from that condition he’s not nearly as good. We’ll have to see Paul’s final team to make that judgement, but I think the number in Griggs sheet is generally high for him. It might differ in DBDs sim though, since I know those numbers are variable. Keep in mind the sim stats are just one simulation of it, and don't necessarily correspond 1:1 with the sim DBD is going to run. There's some randomness to represent how players can change from year-to-year, especially young ones. Like in one sim I made, the top 5 players by rating are Jokic (with a 73), Shai, Giannis, Luka, Embiid, and in another it's Giannis, Luka, KD, LeBron, Tatum.
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Aug 3, 2023 19:01
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For sure. I’m just jealous that Paul beat me for Gordon and Lebron in the same night.
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a new study bible! posted:For sure. I’m just jealous that Paul beat me for Gordon and Lebron in the same night. *in an extremely Lebron James kid voice* Lebron James I think the idea that Aaron Gordon is not a good player in an environment where he he doesn’t have Jokic is pretty misguided. Dude was pretty good in Orlando on dogshit teams where he was asked to do absolutely more than he was capable of doing. Guys probably going to end up being the 3rd or 4th most important starter on my team and that’s exactly the role he just thrived in on a nba championship team Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 20:36
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Paul Zuvella posted:Dude was pretty good in Orlando on dogshit teams where he was asked to do absolutely more than he was capable of doing. He was not e: well, him being asked to do more than he was capable of doing is true but that was because of his own skill issues not the team's IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 20:44
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This seems like revisionist history. Guy was in his early 20s playing out of position a lot of time taking way more offensive burdeon than he should have been. He was not some dogshit player.
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Aug 3, 2023 21:13
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Paul Zuvella posted:This seems like revisionist history. Guy was in his early 20s playing out of position a lot of time taking way more offensive burdeon than he should have been. He was not some dogshit player. Nobody called him dogshit lol. The only revisioning is saying he was pretty good for dogshit teams (hint: he wasn't and the teams weren't). Like has been said, 4th best player on a team with someone that can create for him is pretty much how you're gonna get the ideal Aaron Gordon and, well, you're getting there. vv yeah basically vv IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Aug 3, 2023 |
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Aug 3, 2023 21:29
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IcePhoenix posted:He was not Well, it was both. He should never be asked to dribble or create offense for example but he only was because the Magic drafted an unbroken streak of busts or at best mediocre bench guys at wing and guard positions for a full decade. In short stints he was very good and I at least was very optimistic that he had found his ideal spot when was traded to the Nuggets. I could see Lebron putting him in a place to succeed but that pairing is going to require some very specific parts around it. He and Vucevic were an extremely mediocre defensive pairing.
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IcePhoenix posted:Nobody called him dogshit lol. The only revisioning is saying he was pretty good for dogshit teams (hint: he wasn't and the teams weren't). Those Orlando teams weren't dogshit??
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Aug 3, 2023 22:01
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They weren't good but they made the playoffs in two of his three best seasons (neither of which he was the best player on the team)!
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a new study bible! posted:Idk if any of you play TFT/Auto Chess but playing this game really makes me wish that the NBA had an auto battler. There’s a lot of fun potential in that. It does. It's called "fanduels.com" I don't recommend it. It's pay-to-play. Anyhow, I had a few "overbids", based off either reputation or players playing for the Pistons. Bagley is a decent rotation center, and I think anything 50 and under for that is within reason. He just looks really bad as a #2 pick. Diallo shoots almost 60% from the floor as a slashing wing/guard. These are dudes who can definitely contribute. Thomas Bryant is the one that bugs me, though. I dunno if I was drunk or high or made a typo or what. Winning that bid made me check my outgoing messages to make sure I actually did.
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a new study bible! posted:Griggs
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Sorrry myr keyborard irs brokenr
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