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SkeletonHero
Sep 7, 2010

:dehumanize:
:killing:
:dehumanize:

Chinook posted:

Recommendations for games that can be played entirely with the left hand? I have a Steam Deck, PC (keyboard/mouse), and lots of handhelds, old and new.

I have an issue with my right hand where it goes numb and becomes painful when using a mouse or a keyboard, or a regular controller. It's a bummer.

iPad games seem like they would work, probably. (baldur's gate enhanced, etc)

Vampire Survivors also comes to mind.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Ideally something that doesn't use a right hand at all.

Bayonetta 1 on Easy/Automatic mode can be played one-handed. I don't know if this carries forward to the rest of the series.

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Perfect painting
Nov 27, 2011

Chinook posted:

Recommendations for games that can be played entirely with the left hand? I have a Steam Deck, PC (keyboard/mouse), and lots of handhelds, old and new.

I have an issue with my right hand where it goes numb and becomes painful when using a mouse or a keyboard, or a regular controller. It's a bummer.

iPad games seem like they would work, probably. (baldur's gate enhanced, etc)

Vampire Survivors also comes to mind.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Ideally something that doesn't use a right hand at all.

Ace Attorney. You might have to overhand grip the controller or something to get it to work comfortably but it's entirely navigating menus and advancing dialogue. I think some of the games have autoplay options, too.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Chinook posted:

Recommendations for games that can be played entirely with the left hand? I have a Steam Deck, PC (keyboard/mouse), and lots of handhelds, old and new.

I have an issue with my right hand where it goes numb and becomes painful when using a mouse or a keyboard, or a regular controller. It's a bummer.

iPad games seem like they would work, probably. (baldur's gate enhanced, etc)

Vampire Survivors also comes to mind.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Ideally something that doesn't use a right hand at all.

It's reccomended a lot in the thread, but pretty sure into The Breach can be played that way just with the mouse. Or some classic ascii roguelikes since you can type one-handed as slow as suits.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Eric the Mauve posted:

We're going a long way back here and maybe into a genre not of interest to you, but believe it or not, EarthBound was designed to be completely playable with your left hand only.

Would you say that you can play it while eating a slice of pizza?

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

Thanks for the suggestions so far. Did finish Earthbound last year, but RPGs seem like an option, in general.

What I really want to be playing is Elden Ring, Hitman, that sort of thing. It's just not an option at all right now.

Perfect painting
Nov 27, 2011

Yeah, I think your options for action games are just going to be severely limited. Slay The Spire could be another good one. Maybe look into flightsticks?

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

Perfect painting posted:

Yeah, I think your options for action games are just going to be severely limited. Slay The Spire could be another good one. Maybe look into flightsticks?

Yeah, I got a hitbox style pad for SF6, and it actually works pretty well. But it still tires out my hand after a bit.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Chinook posted:

Recommendations for games that can be played entirely with the left hand? I have a Steam Deck, PC (keyboard/mouse), and lots of handhelds, old and new.

I have an issue with my right hand where it goes numb and becomes painful when using a mouse or a keyboard, or a regular controller. It's a bummer.

iPad games seem like they would work, probably. (baldur's gate enhanced, etc)

Vampire Survivors also comes to mind.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Ideally something that doesn't use a right hand at all.

One Finger Death Punch
Rhythm Doctor
Baba Is You

there's also this Steam curator

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

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Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




Chinook posted:

Recommendations for games that can be played entirely with the left hand? I have a Steam Deck, PC (keyboard/mouse), and lots of handhelds, old and new.

I have an issue with my right hand where it goes numb and becomes painful when using a mouse or a keyboard, or a regular controller. It's a bummer.

iPad games seem like they would work, probably. (baldur's gate enhanced, etc)

Vampire Survivors also comes to mind.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Ideally something that doesn't use a right hand at all.

A lot of Jrpgs can be played with only one hand, even if it isn't something like Dragon Quest XI where there's a dedicated one-handed mode.

Anything that's primarily mouse driven, you can get away with just reversing the mouse in options and learning to mouse with your left hand.


Also, if you aren't getting that looked at, you really should. Just about anything that can cause that problem has the potential for causing permanent damage if left untreated.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Crypt of the Necrodancer, which might be more comfy than playing a mouse-only game with your left hand because it's on the keyboard. I'm not sure how much that carries over to console versions, since the main game would just be the d-pad, but there are a few equipment pickups that like having a separate button that you might have to finagle with mapping.

If your main problem is the thumb, maybe a lot more key-board-only games could work, like Spelunky or Shovel Knight. If your right hand is out on the arrow keys, you won't be tempted to smash the spacebar with it. You could also play a bunch of emulated classic games with keyboard setups, but that's straying into developing your own control scheme. In theory you could also try learning a weird controller grip, but that's work.

But if you can adapt to using the mouse with your left hand, there's a lot of games that can be done mouse-only. FTL, lots of adventure games or city building games or casual games.

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

Thanks all. Lots of great suggestions.

And yeah, I’m seeing an orthopedic doc in a few weeks. Hand and arm specialist.

Perfect painting
Nov 27, 2011

Good luck and be well, gamer :cheerdoge:

Saul Kain
Dec 5, 2018

Lately it occurs to me,

what a long, strange trip it's been.


Eric the Mauve posted:

We're going a long way back here and maybe into a genre not of interest to you, but believe it or not, EarthBound was designed to be completely playable with your left hand only.

Really? I played it on SNES. Is the idea that you could use the dpad and then switch to buttons as necessary?

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



Saul Kain posted:

Really? I played it on SNES. Is the idea that you could use the dpad and then switch to buttons as necessary?

Select serves the same function as the B button and you can use L to explore/talk to/confirm so all you need is the d-pad + those two

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
There's one major problem though, you have to reach over to R to ring the bicycle bell, without which the game is literally unplayable

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Chinook posted:

Recommendations for games that can be played entirely with the left hand? I have a Steam Deck, PC (keyboard/mouse), and lots of handhelds, old and new.

I have an issue with my right hand where it goes numb and becomes painful when using a mouse or a keyboard, or a regular controller. It's a bummer.

iPad games seem like they would work, probably. (baldur's gate enhanced, etc)

Vampire Survivors also comes to mind.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Ideally something that doesn't use a right hand at all.

Suikoden series, at least 1 and 2 had it. Sure it's a standard jRPG, but I remember going WTF that the confirm/cancel/menu buttons were mirrored on L1, L2 and Select respectively.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Steam Deck would allow for mapping extra controls to the back paddles and touchpad which would probably bring some other JRPGs into consideration if you're okay with cooking up your own control scheme. If your right hand is completely out of commission you might need the ultimate deck accessory (a nursing pillow) to support it though.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

A vague recommendation request!

I fancy playing something strategy-ish or management-ish, but don't really know where to start. Something which has depth but can also be played casually and sometimes while half paying attention to something else, so ideally nothing with hectic combat or the like. Also preferably not a crazy steep learning curve because I can't be bothered with that (and am also not great at most games...).

I've played civ for years and years and loved it, but last few times I've played it's all felt a bit samey, ditto crusader kings. Also love/loved football manager and Empire: total war, mostly because I love football and the 18tg century. Played tropico a few years ago (can't remember what version) and liked it. Haven't played many other strategy or management games for a very very long time, but back in the day I enjoyed stuff like transport/rollercoaster Tycoon, theme hospital and a few different RTSes like red alert or age of empires.

I tried Europa universalis but couldn't get into it for some reason, despite it seeming to tick most boxes. Ditto city skylines, even though I played the hell out of sim city 2000.

Not too bothered about setting or theme, except fantasy being a hard pass. Besides football I don't follow other sports closely enough to be that into the idea of a sports management game, but if it's amazing game then sure, maybe.

Needs to run on a lower spec laptop that's mostly otherwise used for Excel (or be available to play on boosteroid)

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Banished? It's a city builder.
Football tactics and glory maybe, if you like football. There's an LP on in the forums if you want to look a bit at how it works

Sleeping dogs?

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Tropico might be easier to get your head around since you place all the buildings manually. If your computer can't handle the current iteration of Tropico, then 3 or 4 might work better.

Other games that I think wouldn't be taxing on your computer are the old game Theme Hospital or the less old game Project Highrise.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
You could give Urbek a look. It presents like a city builder but is really a puzzle game and won't tax your computer.

Could also look into Terra Nil or Against the Storm, they're all the rage in the management games thread.

Battle Brothers is all about combat but it's pausable on the overworld and purely turn based combat so you can easily drop it and pick it up at your leisure. Might be too Fantasy for your taste though.

There's Rimworld and its eight million mods, of course.

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!
Seconding Urbek, I've pumped tons of hours into it. While there's a lot of puzzle game under the hood, I'd say there's still some city builder at the core, just stripped down to essentials. By far my favorite part of it (outside of it being the rare Chilean game which is Good, Actually) is the mechanic where buildings (mostly residential ones) will evolve not just linearly but branching into different neighborhood types depending on their adjacency bonuses. This isn't super new if you're familiar with the genre, but there's quite a bit of variety and some of them look really pretty (well, minecraft-pretty, since it's got a voxel art style), which adds a lot of replayability and enjoyment since you actually feel an element of creative freedom and identity in each city you create beyond just "where-place". The different maps/environments aren't just for show, either, since each one tweaks the mechanics a bit (a couple of them do feel like a drag, though - grasslands, desert and islands are still my favorites).

Also played the Terra Nil demo and liked it quite a bit, but in this case yeah it's a lot more about maximizing placement and adjacency bonuses. I've seen some players say that the full game doesn't really add that much, but from what I've seen it's unmatched when it comes to chill factor.

If you want to try some oldies, maybe check out Afterlife. It's basically Simcity2000 but reskinned to an alien world's heaven and hell manager. I take it for a spin every few years, and even though I can never quite get into the groove where I'll sink dozens of hours into it, I appreciate how ridiculously layered it was, particularly for its time, and all the silly rewards and punishments for alien souls that slowly pop up, each with their flavor text and (sometimes) art. It definitely has some issues (chief among them being that once your land starts developing, the pixel crowding makes it impossible to micromanage, which is a necessity), but you can probably get it for a buck or two on GOG and it can net you quite a bit of fun on charm alone.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Alright so started playing Stardew on PS5 with my wife, son, and brother in law. It's great because there's a bunch of different things you can do, and while you certainly can work together on the farm or killing slimes, you can also work on your own separate parts of the farm or anywhere on the map, and everyone has their own separate wallet, inventory, quest log, leveling statuses, relationship statuses, etc.

But there's more! While games like Minecraft or Terraria fit what I've mentioned so far, Stardew Valley also has a decent amount of JRPG-ish structure to signpost the way and provide goals (some implicit, some explicit) to aim for, which is really neat. It's a nice mix of structured and open-ended progression.

Any other local coop games that mix that sort of independent coop experience with a balance of structure and open-endedness? I have a Switch, PS5, and Deck (and a gaming laptop if really necessary).

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type). Games of that type that are either already on the list or I've already beaten are:

Deus Ex 1, 2, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Ultima Underworld 1, 2
Arx Fatalis
System Shock 1, 2
Bioshock 1, 2, Infinite
Dishonored 1, 2
Prey (2017)

Feel free to restate any obvious titles I might have missed.
PC only (but doesn't need to be new or pretty)

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

Pierzak posted:

I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type). Games of that type that are either already on the list or I've already beaten are:

Deus Ex 1, 2, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Ultima Underworld 1, 2
Arx Fatalis
System Shock 1, 2
Bioshock 1, 2, Infinite
Dishonored 1, 2
Prey (2017)

Feel free to restate any obvious titles I might have missed.
PC only (but doesn't need to be new or pretty)

Thief 1 and 2? 2 is by far the better game, but the story follows up and the world evolves so it's worth playing both in order if you don't mind the less polished experience and levels.

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.

Pierzak posted:

I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type). Games of that type that are either already on the list or I've already beaten are:

Deus Ex 1, 2, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Ultima Underworld 1, 2
Arx Fatalis
System Shock 1, 2
Bioshock 1, 2, Infinite
Dishonored 1, 2
Prey (2017)

Feel free to restate any obvious titles I might have missed.
PC only (but doesn't need to be new or pretty)

Ctrl Alt Ego

A Worrying Warlock
Sep 21, 2009

Pierzak posted:

I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type). Games of that type that are either already on the list or I've already beaten are:

Deus Ex 1, 2, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Ultima Underworld 1, 2
Arx Fatalis
System Shock 1, 2
Bioshock 1, 2, Infinite
Dishonored 1, 2
Prey (2017)

Feel free to restate any obvious titles I might have missed.
PC only (but doesn't need to be new or pretty)

Deathloop and Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines (use the fan patch) are good, too.

Terry van Feleday
Jun 6, 2010

Free Your Mind

Pierzak posted:

I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type).
Cruelty Squad.

If you haven't seen that game before you might think I'm joking but no, if you can accept the aesthetic it's exactly what you're looking for.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

Pierzak posted:

I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type). Games of that type that are either already on the list or I've already beaten are:

Deus Ex 1, 2, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Ultima Underworld 1, 2
Arx Fatalis
System Shock 1, 2
Bioshock 1, 2, Infinite
Dishonored 1, 2
Prey (2017)

Feel free to restate any obvious titles I might have missed.
PC only (but doesn't need to be new or pretty)

Not sure if you're including Dishonored Death of the Outsider under D2 (it was very confusingly marketed) but if you've missed it, please play it. Some of the best level design in the series and the restricted powerset means it's a lot more "focused" in design while still allowing considerable freedom.

Consortium is also a fun short immersive sim but be aware it's largely a big teaser for a sequel that doesn't seem like it's getting anywhere

The Norwood Suite / Off Peak City games are sort of mini immersive sims, no combat but well worth a look - the newest one especially (Betrayal at Club Low) is like a tiny densely detailed Deus Ex quest.

Lunchmeat Larry fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Aug 9, 2023

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

Pierzak posted:

I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type). Games of that type that are either already on the list or I've already beaten are:

Deus Ex 1, 2, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Ultima Underworld 1, 2
Arx Fatalis
System Shock 1, 2
Bioshock 1, 2, Infinite
Dishonored 1, 2
Prey (2017)

Feel free to restate any obvious titles I might have missed.
PC only (but doesn't need to be new or pretty)

STALKER
ARK: Survivor Evolved

Spring to mind; haven’t played them but have both wishlisted

Saul Kain
Dec 5, 2018

Lately it occurs to me,

what a long, strange trip it's been.


Stalker: Anomaly has the benefit of being a free fan mod that is quite expansive.

Saul Kain
Dec 5, 2018

Lately it occurs to me,

what a long, strange trip it's been.


I would also suggest Enderal as a more maturely written Skyrim. It has neat magic systems and a huge open world to explore.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Pierzak posted:

I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type). Games of that type that are either already on the list or I've already beaten are:

Deus Ex 1, 2, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Ultima Underworld 1, 2
Arx Fatalis
System Shock 1, 2
Bioshock 1, 2, Infinite
Dishonored 1, 2
Prey (2017)

Feel free to restate any obvious titles I might have missed.
PC only (but doesn't need to be new or pretty)

the Thief series
Fortune's Run, maybe
Gloomwood

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Cicero posted:

Alright so started playing Stardew on PS5 with my wife, son, and brother in law. It's great because there's a bunch of different things you can do, and while you certainly can work together on the farm or killing slimes, you can also work on your own separate parts of the farm or anywhere on the map, and everyone has their own separate wallet, inventory, quest log, leveling statuses, relationship statuses, etc.

But there's more! While games like Minecraft or Terraria fit what I've mentioned so far, Stardew Valley also has a decent amount of JRPG-ish structure to signpost the way and provide goals (some implicit, some explicit) to aim for, which is really neat. It's a nice mix of structured and open-ended progression.

Any other local coop games that mix that sort of independent coop experience with a balance of structure and open-endedness? I have a Switch, PS5, and Deck (and a gaming laptop if really necessary).

Dragon Quest Builders 2, maybe

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

Hwurmp posted:

Dragon Quest Builders 2, maybe

Seconding this, I always bounce off Terraria/Minecraft and the like but I absolutely love DQB. It's just enough structure to keep me interested

thekeeshman
Feb 21, 2007

Pierzak posted:

I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type). Games of that type that are either already on the list or I've already beaten are:

Deus Ex 1, 2, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Ultima Underworld 1, 2
Arx Fatalis
System Shock 1, 2
Bioshock 1, 2, Infinite
Dishonored 1, 2
Prey (2017)

Feel free to restate any obvious titles I might have missed.
PC only (but doesn't need to be new or pretty)

Seconding Death of the Outsider if you haven't played it. You'd probably enjoy Deathloop as well. Also Cyberpunk 2077.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Hwurmp posted:

Dragon Quest Builders 2, maybe
Would be a good rec probably except no local coop I don't think.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

Pierzak posted:

I have a craving for some Deus Ex-like games (as in, FPP with RPG-like elements and multiple solutions to problems, but very much "you know it when you see it" type). Games of that type that are either already on the list or I've already beaten are:

Deus Ex 1, 2, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Ultima Underworld 1, 2
Arx Fatalis
System Shock 1, 2
Bioshock 1, 2, Infinite
Dishonored 1, 2
Prey (2017)

Feel free to restate any obvious titles I might have missed.
PC only (but doesn't need to be new or pretty)

Haven’t played it, but Shadows of Doubt is that and the goonsensus on the Steam thread is that it was pretty good, IIRC.

Fighting Elegy
Jan 2, 2007
I do not masturbate; I FIGHT!

Terry van Feleday posted:

Cruelty Squad.

If you haven't seen that game before you might think I'm joking but no, if you can accept the aesthetic it's exactly what you're looking for.

yeah wanna recommend this one to people looking for immersive sims, even though its a weird one. The 3 games I would compare it to are Deus Ex, Hotline Miami and Super Mario 64.

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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

goons posted:

Thief 1,2 - I got filtered by the pacifist requirement and the zombie level, but I did ghost Dishonored so I might revisit it. Out of curiosity, is there something wrong about the conspicuously missing 3?
Ctrl Alt Ego - looks very interesting, thanks!
Deathloop - I like what the devs had done in previous games, but the reviews seem suspiciously harsh (for bugginess/crashing?) and I'm not paying for Denuvo on principle until/unless they drop it
VtM Bloodlines - beat it, forgot to mention it in the list (might go for a Malk playthrough though)
Cruelty Squad - ...yyyeah that's a big "if", I'll give it a look but it does seem eyefuckingly garish
Dishonored DLC - yeah, DLC get lumped in under main titles.
Consortium - seems like exactly the thing to avoid to not build expectations I'd later trip on.
Norwood Suite/Off Peak City series/Betrayal at Club Low - I'll keep those in mind, but they seem more like pure adventure games and the lack of combat might kick them out of the genre for me.
STALKER - on the list, but IMO not really the same genre
STALKER Anomaly - added to the list for if/when I want more after plain STALKER.
ARK Survival Evolved - I forgot to mention that I'm strictly looking for single-player stuff.
Enderal - not sure what it has to do with DX-likes, but it does look interesting.
Fortune's Run - doubt, seems much more of a twitchy shooter than I'd like to.
Gloomwood - now this seems interesting, wishlisted and I'll give it a run once it gets out of EA
Cyberpunk 2077 - on the list, forgot to mention.
Shadows of Doubt - not my visual style, but the premise seems real good, wishlisted

Some really interesting stuff I got there. Thanks guys!

Also, I've seen that term "immersive sim" thrown around a few times, what does it even mean?

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Aug 10, 2023

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