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Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

https://twitter.com/algeria_mfa/status/1686405059951644672?s=46

I found the Algerian MFAs official statement which unsurprisingly is less dramatic than that random tweet from before

basically: we support the ex president Barzoum and wish for a return to constitutional order by peaceful means. however we caution against foreign military intervention which can only complicate and aggravate the current crisis.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)


They're calling him the Black Tony Soprano.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/sajid_nadeem78/status/1687363475352199168

https://twitter.com/HarunMaruf/status/1687384763810615297

https://twitter.com/sajid_nadeem78/status/1687202992347586560

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

KomradeX posted:

He's got more showman ship than any US politician. The calls to arise while being lifted up on the scissor lift are so much better than Trump, or Beato jumping on tables

Mayor Pete contriving for the lights to go out so he could get that soundbite about lighting up the room

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i6LGJ7evrAg&pp=ygUOZ29uZG9yIGJlYWNvbnM%3D

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Frosted Flake posted:

Mayor Pete contriving for the lights to go out so he could get that soundbite about lighting up the room

That could have worked if you know rhe only people that like Mayor Ratboy are souless husks, so theres no way to get that energy like in that stadium. It's like enthusiasm is tied to an intrinsic belief and that people that don't believe in anything have to feign at it but will always ring hollow

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

BrutalistMcDonalds do you have anything on the EFFs international orientation or relationships with Western capital. the criticism seems to be that the EFF is encouraging state bailouts of an element of the national bourgeoisie that include Malema as a member. That seems like evidence that Malema is a turncoat, but not necessarily a fascist? Is development of a national bourgeoisie not part of the point of a bourgeoise state in a semi-colonial country? The SACP being in coalition with a bourgeois government for decades seems like they support the development of a national bourgeoisie.

Malema might be a former leftist youth leader who is now a millionaire and friends with gangsters. Ramaphosa is a former union leader who is now a millionaire and helped shoot striking miners in the back. Why is one of these guys a proto-fascist and the other fine to support?

I'm including an article on the Gupta case because the articles posted about the EFF say they are part of a process by certain bourgeois elements to "capture the state." The phrase "state capture" has been used a lot in the Gupta case as well. To me it mostly seems to mystify the class forces at work and turn competition between different parts of the bourgeoisie into a narrative of corruption. A sort of lawfare over economic policy.

quote:

State capture is a form of corruption where a small group of people influences the decision-making process of a state for personal gain. South Africa’s current government, under President Cyril Ramaphosa, has accused two brothers of the Gupta family of businessmen — which became synonymous with state capture under Zuma — of plundering the country’s funds through a systematic web of corruption. The brothers were arrested last June in the United Arab Emirates. But last week, the UAE dismissed South Africa’s request that the Gupta siblings be extradited.

The new revelation, identifying Mohamed Khan as the previously missing link in the Gupta state capture case, is part of Gold Mafia, a four-part investigative series into several gold smuggling and money laundering gangs operating in Southern Africa.

Gupta brothers
The Zondo Commission was established in 2018 to investigate reports of state capture, corruption and fraud mainly by the Guptas, an influential South African family with Indian roots.

Since their arrival in South Africa in 1993, the Guptas managed to build a vast business empire and they eventually came to wield enormous influence in the country, allowing them to obtain large amounts of state funds that they laundered offshore.

As their power grew, the Guptas were awarded state contracts, allegedly bribed politicians and even had influence over ministerial appointments in Zuma’s government. Such was their clout that in 2013, they managed to use a South African military airport to bring hundreds of guests from India for a wedding, sparking a national controversy.

The money obtained in the state capture was sent abroad through a network of companies and eventually seemed to vanish. Zokubyte, Coral General Trading and Varlozone were all part of that network, dubbed “the spiderweb” by investigators.

Among the investigators appointed by the Zondo Commission was Paul Holden, an anti-money laundering expert. “We were basically looking at the flow of money into this network from the state capture and we knew it was going through a money laundering network,” he told Al Jazeera.

A breakthrough came when the commission was able to determine a direct link between the money from the state capture and the Guptas through transactions from South African company Varlozone to Dubai-based company Griffin Line General Trading.

Griffin Line General Trading was known to be controlled by the Guptas. But the owner of Varlozone, Shah Bukhari, was just a frontman. In reality, the company was run by Khan, a prolific money launderer who has worked for cigarette don and gold smuggler Simon Rudland, helping him transfer more than $100m abroad. Khan also bribed employees in several South African banks to help with the money laundering operation.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/14/gold-mafia-helped-gupta-brothers-in-south-africa-state-capture

Like, I don't know if the Gupta's are being demonized because they are Indian, or if they really were a lynchpin of the extraction of wealth from South Africa. If Malema is basically a project of saying the stolen wealth should stay in South Africa it certainly isn't socialist, but it seems better than Zuma's style of letting it be sent abroad.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1687524765475766273

ourgh

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012


Not a fan, honestly

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

deleted, what'd it say

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

i say swears online posted:

deleted, what'd it say

the n-word is part of gamer culture and suppressing cultural expression is literal genocide

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

ooooooof

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

quote:

Tinubu writes Senate, seeks approval for military action against Niger
August 4, 2023
By Henry Umoru, Abuja

President Bola Tinubu has written the Nigerian Senate, intimating it of the proposed military action and other sanctions against the military officers who recently seized power in the Niger Republic by the Economic Community of West African States, ECOWAS.

Since the soldiers seized power in Niger on July 26, the leaders of the West African regional bloc headed by President Tinubu, has been in discussions, especially on sanctions against the coup plotters.

However, the junta has remained adamant. Not even a delegation by Tinubu, yesterday, could de-escalate the situation.

His letter to the Senate was read on the floor of the Upper Chamber by the President of the Senate, Godswill Akpabio.

The letter read: “Political situation in Niger. Following the unfortunate political situation in the Niger Republic culminating in the overthrow of its President, ECOWAS under my leadership condemned the coup in its entirety and resolved to seek the return of the democratically elected government.

“In a bid to restore peace, ECOWAS convened a meeting and came out with a communique:

“Closure and monitoring of all land borders with the Niger Republic and reactivating of the border drilling exercise.

“Cutting off electricity supply to the Niger Republic; mobilising international support for the implementation of the provisions of the ECOWAS communique.

“Preventing the operation of commercial and special flights into and from Niger Republic; blockade of goods in transit to Niger, especially from Lagos and eastern seaports.

“Embarking on sensitisation of Nigerians and Nigeriens on the imperative of these actions, particularly via social media.

“Military build-up and deployment of personnel for military intervention to enforce compliance of the military junta in Niger should they remain recalcitrant."
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/08/tinubu-writes-national-assembly-seeks-approval-for-military-action-against-niger-coupists/

quote:

Opinion
President of Niger: My country is under attack and I’ve been taken hostage
By Mohamed Bazoum
August 3, 2023 at 6:27 p.m. EDT

Mohamed Bazoum is the president of the Republic of Niger.

I write this as a hostage. Niger is under attack from a military junta that is trying to overthrow our democracy, and I am just one of hundreds of citizens who have been arbitrarily and illegally imprisoned. This coup, launched against my government by a faction in the military on July 26, has no justification whatsoever. If it succeeds, it will have devastating consequences for our country, our region and the entire world.

Our government came to power through a democratic election in 2021. Any attempt to overthrow a lawful government must be opposed, and we appreciate the strong and unequivocal condemnations of this cynical effort to undermine the remarkable progress Niger has made under democracy. The United States, the African and European Unions, and the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) have been loud and clear: This coup must end, and the junta must free everyone they have unlawfully arrested.

The coup plotters falsely claim that they acted to protect Niger’s security. They allege that our war against jihadist terrorists is failing and that my economic and social governance, including partnerships with the United States and Europe, has hurt our country.
...
In Africa’s troubled Sahel region, Niger stands as the last bastion of respect for human rights amid the authoritarian movements that have overtaken some of our neighbors. While this coup attempt is a tragedy for Nigeriens, its success would have devastating consequences far beyond our borders.

With an open invitation from the coup plotters and their regional allies, the entire central Sahel region could fall to Russian influence via the Wagner Group, whose brutal terrorism has been on full display in Ukraine.

Boko Haram and other terrorist movements will surely take advantage of Niger’s instability, using our country as a staging ground to attack neighboring countries and undermine peace, safety and freedom around the world. They will ramp up their efforts to target our youths with hateful anti-Western indoctrination, turning them against the very partners who are helping us build a more hopeful future.

In our hour of need, I call on the U.S. government and the entire international community to help us restore our constitutional order. Fighting for our shared values, including democratic pluralism and respect for the rule of law, is the only way to make sustainable progress against poverty and terrorism. The Nigerien people will never forget your support at this pivotal moment in our history.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/03/mohamed-bazoum-coup-niger-democracy/

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

why are they letting him write op eds

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

President Biden, my name is Bazoum. I am 63 years old president of Niger Republic. Please send your HIMARS rockets and F-35 joint strike fighters to free my country.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

is nigeria really stupid enough to star a war over this

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008


it didn't actually say that. the real post was an update about the situation in niger

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Le me supporting a right wing military putsch anti imperialistically like a baus

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

bedpan posted:

it didn't actually say that. the real post was an update about the situation in niger

yes i know i was joking

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

Plutonis posted:

Le me supporting a right wing military putsch anti imperialistically like a baus

You keep saying "Bonapartist" like it's a bad thing and not historically progressive.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Aren't they calling it Blanquist?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/Algeria_MFA/status/1687485062978101248

Google translate:

quote:

Commissioned by the President of the Republic, Minister Ahmed Ataf received today the Special Envoy of the President of Nigeria, Babagana Kingibe, who handed him a written message addressed to the President of the Republic, Mr. Abdelmadjid Tebboune, by his counterpart 🇳🇬 , Mr. Bola Ahmed Tinubu, in his capacity as the current President of the Economic Community of West African States.
...
This visit falls within the framework of exchanging views and consultations on developments in the situation in the Republic of Niger, where Minister Ahmed Ataf renewed the expression of Algeria's position rejecting the military coup against the legitimate president in this brotherly and neighboring country and calling for his return to his constitutional position as President of the Republic of Niger.

Votskomit
Jun 26, 2013

Atrocious Joe posted:

That seems like evidence that Malema is a turncoat, but not necessarily a fascist? Is development of a national bourgeoisie not part of the point of a bourgeoise state in a semi-colonial country? The SACP being in coalition with a bourgeois government for decades seems like they support the development of a national bourgeoisie.

Malema might be a former leftist youth leader who is now a millionaire and friends with gangsters.

Never heard a fascist say this about LGBTQ people:
https://twitter.com/STACGMediaHouse/status/1687316686737723392?t=Mn03Sh1yfz3POgN9WTPSeA&s=19

Check out their constitution, specifically the 7 cardinal pillars which they promote most strongly:
https://effonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FINAL-EFF-CONSTITUTION-02.03.2020.pdf

There's lots to criticize Malema for, but fascism doesn't seem accurate.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

a friend of mine did a lil write-up. he's part of the igbo intelligentsia living in abuja but is anti-biafra and other autonomy movements. his kids attend school in the UK and i haven't really seen him use much anti-imperialist rhetoric before. he's had it out for tinubu since the beginning and was a big peter obi booster in the presidential election six months ago, convinced of election fraud

quote:

Good Evening,
Niger Republic is an extension of Northern Nigeria

I don't believe that Tinubu does not know the implications of his warmongering stance against Niger Republic.
If he does not know, at least the "Realists" in his team must have worked out the implications by now. It has grave religious and ethnic downside.
There is a school of thought encouraging him to go on this warmongering stance.
These people including the Oduduwa Republic adherents, the Biafrans, Asari Dokubo and the Ijaw nation, the Bokists, and many other inchoate splinter groups who would move ' to their tents' and declare their own nations when the Tinubu cataclysm erupts.

No nation goes to war on behalf of Neocolonialists and other parasitic world powers to enforce democracy. What happened to the principle of "Non interference in the internal affairs of other nations" which the Western nations studiously adhere to.

Why is Mr President crying louder than the bereaved?
The other tactics to secure votes and win an election not the same or even worse than a coup d etat?
I think the usual platitudes should just have been mouthed by our President and then leave the people of Niger to sort themselves out.

He has stopped electricity flow to Niger.

Does he know that we supply electric power to Niger Republic in exchange for their not constructing a Dam on their own end of the River Niger, which would have completely ruined the lives of millions of Nigerians and which will put the Kainji, Jebba and Shiroro dams out of business.
The electricity we supply is a small price we pay for the Nigerienes not to dam the said River.

He should have consulted with General Gowon who would have explained the depth of Nigeria's relationship with Niger starting with the reign of President Hamani Diori.
Finally, the arms dealers like vultures are locked in on this threat of war. The biggest arms dealers are the same countries encouraging ECOWAS to go to war on behalf of democracy that they do not practice. They are yearning for a large scale war in Africa, which will depopulate us and hand the region over to them FOC without the rigours of colonisation.
The President should not start what he cannot finish.

President Tinubu has NO MORAL RIGHTS to fake being a "Champion of Democracy" considering that he became Nigeria's President by virtue of an Electoral Coup. He should mind his business and face the arduous task of mending Nigeria which was economically and otherwise destroyed by Muhammadu Buhari, a most inept, clueless and disastrous President he brought to power in 2015 and allowed to damage Nigeria as he did for 8 years whilst he (Tinubu) waited for "his turn".

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

drat when's the last time there was major news out of uganda? they've got a huge population too for their size

i like how the burkina faso guy looks like dbz fanart

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 66 days!

badass

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012


That's right.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

i say swears online posted:

drat when's the last time there was major news out of uganda? they've got a huge population too for their size

i like how the burkina faso guy looks like dbz fanart

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ugandas-museveni-approves-anti-gay-law-parliament-speaker-says-2023-05-29/

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012


Couldn't even be bothered drawing his retro kitsch tiger stripe camo, useless

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014


Finally, the tankie prophesy has come true

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

wheres Niger and Mali? also lol what did Uganda do?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011


Isaias Afwerki was snubbed

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

Al-Saqr posted:

wheres Niger and Mali? also lol what did Uganda do?

Passed an anti-gay law.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Atrocious Joe posted:

Isaias Afwerki was snubbed

so was the latin america bloc of amlo, petro, lula, castro, ortega etc

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

i say swears online posted:

so was the latin america bloc of amlo, petro, lula, castro, ortega etc

If you have like 30 dudes in a row it may start indicating something to the reader.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Uganda said they would send troops to defend Moscow if Russia was ever threatened.

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

lol that people try to pretend that xi isn’t in charge

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Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Passed an anti-gay law.

but American evangelicals wrote and funded that!

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