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I got a copy of the Glorantha Sourcebook, thinking it was the Guide to Glorantha. No regrets, it looks amazing, but lol.
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Honestly, the sourcebook is probably more useful. The Guide to Glorantha is chock-full of pages devoted to worthless bullshit.
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Apr 4, 2022 22:57
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True but I'll be damned if the Guide to Glorantha is not the exact thing I was looking for when it came to Glorantha. I'll likely never play but it's still my favorite setting and the Guide is nothing but pure lore.
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Apr 4, 2022 23:25
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Rand Brittain posted:Honestly, the sourcebook is probably more useful. The Guide to Glorantha is chock-full of pages devoted to worthless bullshit. What's the worthless bit. There are so many bits I've stolen to make things more fun in my other games.
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Apr 5, 2022 07:59
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It's filled with page after page of highly-detailed terrain maps that serve no useful purpose whatsoever, and details of a vast number of very small locations, each of which gets exactly one (1) detail about them, which is not enough to ever use them, but which, collectively, make the book bloated. It's like one of the old Forgotten Realms supplements that includes every single word Greenwood ever put into his campaign notes on a topic, whether it was relevant or not. Every city that was ever given a name has to be in there so that the setting can look "real", whether those details are useful to anybody or not.
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Apr 5, 2022 17:56
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Also the pdf bookmarks are completely useless.
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Apr 5, 2022 18:23
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andrew smash posted:I once did a game entirely based around succeeding at this task, made the ducks steadfast allies first etc. when I asked they agreed to join but a law speaker from some other clan jumped in and found a reason why they couldn't. To this day I don't know if it's possible. I think that's the best case option. Also I like the guide, just because it gives enough of a base to start doing things outside dragon pass and prax, which are and shall be the only places that will ever get any detail at all.
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Apr 11, 2022 09:41
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andrew smash posted:I once did a game entirely based around succeeding at this task, made the ducks steadfast allies first etc. when I asked they agreed to join but a law speaker from some other clan jumped in and found a reason why they couldn't. To this day I don't know if it's possible. It’s absolutely possible. There are several layers of success, from making an alliance with them to fully integrating them into your tribe. Nothing gets mentioned in the victory screens tho, sadly.
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Apr 12, 2022 16:32
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I made a lil' CYOA, let's have fun: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4024046
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Feb 13, 2023 11:20
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The prosopaedia just dropped, and it has finally ended the Elmal/Yelmalio debate for all time. lotta boobs and dicks in it as well.
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Jul 16, 2023 03:32
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Nanomashoes posted:The prosopaedia just dropped, and it has finally ended the Elmal/Yelmalio debate
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Jul 16, 2023 04:00
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Picked up the Pendragon starter set as well and it's funny to see mass battle rules there. Still no date on the RQ Gamemaster's book those are supposed to be in.
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Jul 16, 2023 04:55
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Nanomashoes posted:The prosopaedia just dropped, and it has finally ended the Elmal/Yelmalio debate for all time. I think Jeff mostly managed to kick the hornet's nest a few more times on the way there.
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Jul 16, 2023 06:07
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Imagine believing you've settled a debate about glorantha lore, that doesn't acknowledge the divinity of the only God to transcend the limits of contradiction (USER BANNED FOR PROMOTING LUNAR BULLAHIT)
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Aug 7, 2023 05:26
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I am with you, glory to Zzabur and his ability to transcend the poor opinions of those who know nothing.
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Aug 7, 2023 06:51
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Only He, Zzabur, possessed the terrible secret of logging off.
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Aug 7, 2023 06:59
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2 more books just dropped, might they actually stick to a decent publishing schedule? no because these were all planned to be the same book
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Aug 17, 2023 17:47
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Heroquesting rules? No? Big surprise
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Aug 17, 2023 18:39
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Vadun posted:Heroquesting rules? No? Big surprise My guess is late next year by the very earliest. They’ve posted just the text of the rules on their forum though.
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Aug 17, 2023 20:13
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I can't wait to see what gets copied and pasted from an old edition into the new layout.
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Aug 17, 2023 21:11
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I'm not a super Glorantha lore nerd, but the idea that if the God Learners recognized two gods as being equivalent, they're literally and objectively the same being, sounds... wrong?
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Aug 17, 2023 21:14
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Rand Brittain posted:I'm not a super Glorantha lore nerd, but the idea that if the God Learners recognized two gods as being equivalent, they're literally and objectively the same being, sounds... wrong? They were often right, and often wrong.
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Aug 17, 2023 22:04
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Nanomashoes posted:They were often right, and often wrong. Well, yeah, that's my point; the two things that the Goddess Switch demonstrated were: 1) that the God Learners were right, and that gods from different pantheons were equivalent, and 2) that the God Learners were wrong, because the goddesses were also distinct from each other and couldn't perform each others roles correctly. Going from that to, "yeah, they're exactly the same thing" seems like someone missed the subtext (again).
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Aug 18, 2023 00:02
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Rand Brittain posted:I'm not a super Glorantha lore nerd, but the idea that if the God Learners recognized two gods as being equivalent, they're literally and objectively the same being, sounds... wrong? There were multiple ways for the God Learners to declare two gods as equivalent. Some of them involved convincing the worshippers. If everyone stops worshipping Elmal as a separate deity and recognizes him as an aspect of Yelmalio, then that’s what he will become. It isn’t actually that simple, of course.
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Aug 18, 2023 05:51
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Rand Brittain posted:Well, yeah, that's my point; the two things that the Goddess Switch demonstrated were: What was that quote from the old material? It was along the lines of. 'The God Learners successfully switched over the Earth Goddesses of X and Y and thought it went fine. Only now no grain would grow in X and no marriage would last longer than a year in Y.'
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Aug 18, 2023 08:10
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You can identify gods with one another in the monomyth (and often even prove you're right), but the societal relationships of a religion can still be enormously different. Just because someone else's rites work doesn't mean they are useful to you. Ernalda and Dendara may be the same god, but Dendara's societal role relies on her being the eternally loyal wife - which Ernaldan rites and religion cannot support so marriages fail. Meanwhile Dendara doesn't have Flamal as a husband-protector so her rites can't support fruit. (adjust as necessary if you prefer different goddesses to have been in the Switch) In the third age, we can certainly say that Elmal and Yelmalio are the same figure but the adoption of Solar rites and traditions by Sartarite groups fundamentally has similar consequences - their religion is no longer ritually subservient to Orlanth. And that is an enormous problem for the political society in which they live. (I don't think it's explicitly come up, but I wouldn't be surprised if Orlanth Rex magic stopped working on them) And Monrogh takes this to a whole new level. Consider, "these are two different names for the same god" is not the same as "we should stop riding horses and reorganize our entire society around supporting a heavy infantry phalanx". Elmal can be identified with Kargzant as well, but this is less useful in Dragon Pass. Yelmalio's magic however helps you go beat on the Kitori (or trolls if you prefer) and steal their land. Of course if you truly want to understand the ineffable nature of the divine then you will have to follow in the footsteps of your predecessors and do a poo poo load of drugs.
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Aug 18, 2023 08:49
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Rand Brittain posted:I'm not a super Glorantha lore nerd, but the idea that if the God Learners recognized two gods as being equivalent, they're literally and objectively the same being, sounds... wrong? The book is called cults of runequest, not Gods of Gloranrha. It’s kind of tautologically true that if two temples mutually recognise each others initiates, they are part of the same cult. And recognising initiates is mostly done via magic, not written records. So the ‘objective’ truth of the rulebook is telling you what results that magic (e.g. Soul sight) returns. If the cult magic is in some sense getting that identity wrong, then the cult will eventually change or collapse. The God Learner version of this didn’t last a year. But it is possible to be less wrong without being sufficiently right.
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Aug 18, 2023 10:03
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Just chiming in to say the Prosopaedia is great, and I'm really looking forward to reading the cult books. The art is amazing since they got Katrin Dirim on board!
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Aug 18, 2023 14:02
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You gotta respect the God learners hustle though. No one else was farming the end game content like they did. -- Prosopaedia is pretty great, but it would have worked even better as a webpage with hyperlinks.
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Tias posted:Just chiming in to say the Prosopaedia is great, and I'm really looking forward to reading the cult books. The art is amazing since they got Katrin Dirim on board! One thing I didn't like was identifying Gbaji explicitly as Nysalor and not Arkat. That's not wrong, exactly, but it's disappointing to think that it's right. Something tricky happened on the Heroplane when those two confronted each other and it's not clear whether the survivor of the confrontation was even the same being. Issaries posted:You gotta respect the God learners hustle though. Except that the EWF masterminds understood they were farming the end game content while oriented improperly within Time, meaning they were actually disempowering themselves like complete dopes. You really have to admire the number of people in Glorantha who figured out creative ways to endanger the world. That's part of what makes it such a good adventuring setting.
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Aug 18, 2023 19:05
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When are the 2 new cult books out in PDF anyway?
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Narsham posted:One thing I didn't like was identifying Gbaji explicitly as Nysalor and not Arkat. That's not wrong, exactly, but it's disappointing to think that it's right. Something tricky happened on the Heroplane when those two confronted each other and it's not clear whether the survivor of the confrontation was even the same being. I noticed that, although I feel as though it's likely that the Lunar book will do the opposite and identify Gbaji as Arkat. Deptfordx posted:When are the 2 new cult books out in PDF anyway? Two days ago.
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Aug 18, 2023 19:16
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Deptfordx posted:When are the 2 new cult books out in PDF anyway? https://www.chaosium.com/cults-of-runequest-the-earth-goddesses-pdf/ https://www.chaosium.com/cults-of-runequest-the-lightbringers-pdf/
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Narsham posted:One thing I didn't like was identifying Gbaji explicitly as Nysalor and not Arkat. That's not wrong, exactly, but it's disappointing to think that it's right. Something tricky happened on the Heroplane when those two confronted each other and it's not clear whether the survivor of the confrontation was even the same being. Jeff generally seems very into having concrete answers for everything, which is one of the issues I have with the new Runequest. The other is that it feels like he wants everything to be like it was in the 80s as much as he can.
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Aug 18, 2023 21:07
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Seshnelans and Rokarists confirmed to be illogical; Theoblanc wails and tears out his beard:
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Gorelab posted:Jeff generally seems very into having concrete answers for everything, which is one of the issues I have with the new Runequest. The other is that it feels like he wants everything to be like it was in the 80s as much as he can. Are these...consonant goals?
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Aug 19, 2023 03:29
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Narsham posted:One thing I didn't like was identifying Gbaji explicitly as Nysalor and not Arkat. That's not wrong, exactly, but it's disappointing to think that it's right. Something tricky happened on the Heroplane when those two confronted each other and it's not clear whether the survivor of the confrontation was even the same being. "Something tricky" explains more or less every interaction Arkat ever had with anything. Jeff's been rather straightforward about this being a biased source, and "today" (1425-ish) Orlanthi would most often remember Gbaji as Nysalor. It's not meant to be a restricting canon document, as much as something that will be accessible to all the new players in Dragon Pass.
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Six Ages: Lights Going Out has been released https://store.steampowered.com/app/2278010/Six_Ages_2_Lights_Going_Out/
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Aug 21, 2023 15:47
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What is Six Ages like, compared to KoDP?
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Very much the same gameplay, streamlined a little and with fewer truly unfair "lol gently caress u" events. A single game is probably shorter but there's replayability. I just played a little of game 2, interesting how they manage to create a completely different vibe with the same system.
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