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vegetables posted:I saw BvS for the first time this weekend (the long version) and thought “wow, this movie is fantastic, no wonder you guys are so frustrated all the time” To me the complaints about Zucker-Lex are extra frustrating because this isn't the first time he's been updated to reflect the times. When he was introduced in 1940 he was your average mad scientist. With the 80's reboot, he was re-imagined as a Wall Street tychoon businessman (a full year before Wall Street with Michael Douglas was released, btw), and here he's been updated as a Silicon Valley tech bro a la Zuckerburg. It's a great change and prescient, and it really annoys me when nerds whine about how he's "playing the riddler/joker" or whatever dumbass complaint they have. Robot Style posted:I mean, Kryptonite is radioactive growth from another planet. It makes a certain kind of fairy tale sense if his obsession with destroying Superman begins to corrupt him physically, starting with hair loss from Kryptonite exposure. I think a few versions of the character have actually gotten full-on cancer from it too. The 80's wall street Lex from the comics very famously got cancer and put his brain into a buff clone with a thick full head of red hair and then started banging Supergirl (who was actually a shapeshifting goo from a pocket universe created by a parallel version of Lex to stop Zod from destroying their earth, the same Zod Superman later executed)
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Another thing about BvS Lex Luthor is that he, the squirrely tech innovator, was named after his dad, who, implicitly, was the big tough rear end in a top hat Lex who made his money off finance and heavy industry. Classic lantern-jawed '80s Luthor was basically canonical, he was just... from the 80s. In this way, Lex mirrored Wayne as a hypothetical "so what if a bunch of DC comics characters were in fact real through the past several decades but Superman wasn't active yet?" The answer in Luthor's case was that he'd become massively rich and influential and then pass on a corporate empire to his extremely weird son. Ferrinus fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Aug 6, 2023 |
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Ferrinus posted:Another thing about BvS Lex Luthor is that he, the squirrely tech innovator, was named after his dad, who, implicitly, was the big tough rear end in a top hat Lex who made his money off finance and heavy industry. Classic lantern-jawed '80s Luthor was basically canonical, he was just... from the 80s. He actually got murdered by lex jr, I think
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i don't remember the movie implying lex jr murdered his dad but they made it clear that Sr was very abusive to Jr i rewatched the UE BvS and enjoyed it as always although a lot of the imagery and some of the setups were really contrived and boring. the crosses in front of a flaming inferno when superman died always earn a giant eyeroll. i will say that i love cavill as superman but his angry/evil superman from the batman dream just didnt work. his expression is like he just smelled sour milk. Ammanas fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Aug 6, 2023 |
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MoS was too woke. Superman had two dads?!? Not my Superman.
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Violator posted:MoS was too woke. Superman had two dads?!? Not my Superman. Just like Jesus!
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Ammanas posted:i don't remember the movie implying lex jr murdered his dad but they made it clear that Sr was very abusive to Jr The lex thing wasn't in the movie, it was heavily hinted at by Zack in some interview or social media.
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McCloud posted:The lex thing wasn't in the movie, it was heavily hinted at by Zack in some interview or social media. Lex outright rants about how no Superman saved him from his father's 'fists and abominations'. ...also guess what happens moments after Doomsday awakens.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Lex outright rants about how no Superman saved him from his father's 'fists and abominations'. This is probably one of the most undersung moments in BvS. Superman saving Lexs life from that Doomsday punch is such powerful and easy to miss imagery.
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Snyder exercises restraint during that scene. Any lesser director would've tried to humanize Lex in that fleeting moment by including some dramatic reaction shot.
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Superman: Hey, Lex, glad I could save you from some fists and abominations. Sorry I couldn't save you earlier. *winks at camera* Lex: *shocked gasp* wow, I've been wrong all along Doomsday: *astonished gasp, visible awe at Superman's selflessness* Old man in control room: If that pressure wave reaches us the water supply right across the whole city is gonna blow! 'No More Dead Cops' guy: NO MORE DEAD COPS.
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And then they all ate shawarma about it
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Snowman_McK posted:Superman: Hey, Lex, glad I could save you from some fists and abominations. Sorry I couldn't save you earlier. Lmao.
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good lord the NO MORE DEAD COPS line massively triggered me.
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Ammanas posted:good lord the NO MORE DEAD COPS line massively triggered me. It's memorable since Dark Knight is a drat well put together movie and the line is delivered by a guy who's clearly heard of movies and dialogue but has never seen either.
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the "no more dead cops" and "is that a bazooka?" guys are the glue that holds the film together.
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He was trying to say, "No! MORE dead cops!"
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Snowman_McK posted:Old man in control room: If that pressure wave reaches us the water supply right across the whole city is gonna blow! I loving love this guy. More movies need to stop dead in their tracks in the middle of their climax so an old guy an lecture us about mechanical pressure.
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what movie was that from?
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Ammanas posted:good lord the NO MORE DEAD COPS line massively triggered me. "Things are worse than ever!" is somehow the line that sticks with me.
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"ok that's not good!" should become the new Wilhelm scream
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Aces High posted:what movie was that from? Batman Begins.
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Name Change posted:"Things are worse than ever!" is somehow the line that sticks with me. It sounds like the guy had one take and the direction was “your life depends on it”.
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well why not posted:It sounds like the guy had one take and the direction was “your life depends on it”. Ok but now put your 9/11 faces on
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Has anyone ever written a comic where aliens show up to destroy Earth but land in Gotham then leave assuming someone was already doing it
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I mostly just remember the SMBC comic where Kryptonians were actually sending their kids out like Saiyans, and after some social changes come to pick up Superman expecting him to have conquered Earth, but are terrified to learn that he was already busy full time protecting it from all the other superpowered sociopaths on it.
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That's just Iron Giant though.
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RBA Starblade posted:Has anyone ever written a comic where aliens show up to destroy Earth but land in Gotham then leave assuming someone was already doing it "Some bat like creature terrorizes this city nightly and crime only appears to be increasing, lock the space ship doors and let's get out of here" - the white martians
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I mostly just remember the SMBC comic where Kryptonians were actually sending their kids out like Saiyans, and after some social changes come to pick up Superman expecting him to have conquered Earth, but are terrified to learn that he was already busy full time protecting it from all the other superpowered sociopaths on it. So you're saying Invincible is actually an anime?
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“You mess with one of us you mess with AAWL of us!” Name that movie,hint superhero movie.
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I'eard he can disappear!
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MacheteZombie posted:"Some bat like creature terrorizes this city nightly and crime only appears to be increasing, lock the space ship doors and let's get out of here" - the white martians Aliens come to invade Gotham, but the mob steals their ufo and now they're stranded in Crime Alley with psychotic clowns, mudmen, bat men, man bats, some dick who won't stop asking them questions, and some guy with a gun. How will they get home? Why does Earth's government allow this? Who can they vaporize in retaliation?
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:“You mess with one of us you mess with AAWL of us!” Brilliant follow-up in the sequel to that.
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RBA Starblade posted:Aliens come to invade Gotham, but the mob steals their ufo and now they're stranded in Crime Alley with psychotic clowns, mudmen, bat men, man bats, some dick who won't stop asking them questions, and some guy with a gun. How will they get home? Why does Earth's government allow this? Who can they vaporize in retaliation? Joker and the Killer Klowns from Outer Space would be natural allies.
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And now I'm just picturing the aliens naturalising and Gotham now has little green made men in Little Reticuli.
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teagone posted:Snyder exercises restraint during that scene. Any lesser director would've tried to humanize Lex in that fleeting moment by including some dramatic reaction shot. Oh there would be a full flashback that tries to force itself to be an antithesis to Bruce losing his parents, a la what happened to the Maxwell Lord situation in WW84. Snowman_McK posted:Superman: Hey, Lex, glad I could save you from some fists and abominations. Sorry I couldn't save you earlier. Ok I snort-laughed way more than my Dad would have liked when I read this.
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Release the Ayer Cut https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1689743943599288320  Clearly yet another Man of Steel connection
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Original intent to do what, include an obscure 90's Chaos! Comics character called the Purple Skullet?
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Grendels Dad posted:Original intent to do what, include an obscure 90's Chaos! Comics character called the Purple Skullet? I was thinking a Dark Souls hex build
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