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Echoing that - the only BRs & Extraction shooters that have managed nice gunplay have been Apex and Warzone. If Bungie can hit that beat with good gun feel, they’ll have a winner. (Please Jesus make their snipers feel nicer, it’s the one thing they make horrible)
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RBA Starblade posted:Snipers don't deserve nice things
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Hunt has great weapons. they’re intentionally analog-feeling crap from the 19th century but downing someone with a vetterli or martini is the most “bam fucker” feeling imaginable Wouldn’t complain about shooting similar to destiny but I’m not sure the aim assist would be a good fit for that kind of game.
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Aug 7, 2023 22:36
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Snipers might not be a good choice if you have to go to the guy's corpse and loot it Gunfeel is probably going to be close to D2, Bungie knows it's one of their signature crown jewels
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Aug 7, 2023 22:37
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Players expect sniper rifles to be in a shooting game, and provide 1 hit kills at long range. So game developers cater to that expectation while weighing the guns down with lots of ridiculous restrictions to prevent them from being the best weapon in the game. So they end up being unfun to use while still oppressive in pvp. Someone should be bold enough to just get rid of them entirely. Maybe have high zoom scopes, but have the bullets of the guns they're attached to still deal normal damage.
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Aug 7, 2023 22:48
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Sniper rifles explicitly can't knock down in a single headshot in apex, right?
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If I made a fps I would put sniper rifles in that despite what the reticle or models or anything else shows, the bullet missed If you tried to do it point blank so that was impossible, it would somehow shoot you instead, but I'd allow it to count as a point instead of a suicide or negative or whatever
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Reiterpallasch posted:Sniper rifles explicitly can't knock down in a single headshot in apex, right? Depends on the specific rifle and armour value but yeah you generally need to be able to follow up. They specifically nerfed the ultra special sniper but the other two have fancy perks that help in some way.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Since I had to look up who that is, I'll post it I keep checking on this seeing if the guy is gonna delete it or respond to all the people calling him a moron or anything and he's not giving me anything. Very disappointing.
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The issue with sniper rifles I think is that the way to 'balance' them is to make them behave more like they do in reality according to a dude I roomed with that was a retired scout sniper is "more trigonometry simulator and less call of duty"
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Lib and let die posted:The issue with sniper rifles I think is that the way to 'balance' them is to make them behave more like they do in reality according to a dude I roomed with that was a retired scout sniper is "more trigonometry simulator and less call of duty" Have bullet drop and the rotation of the earth as in-game factors.
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Lib and let die posted:The issue with sniper rifles I think is that the way to 'balance' them is to make them behave more like they do in reality according to a dude I roomed with that was a retired scout sniper is "more trigonometry simulator and less call of duty" old bf4 clip, but they did do bullet drop pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epnsjkNr49Y
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RBA Starblade posted:Snipers don't deserve nice things The teaser trailer shows someone minding their own business and getting domed by sniper i can tell you this game is gonna be real bad
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Oh, poo poo, I thought Solstice was going for the rest of the season, but it actually ends today and I only farmed up enough armor for one character, I better do what I can before daily reset to get armor for my other two chara--  
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Huge fan of how clicking the maintenance banner on the web site brings you to the @bungiehelp account with only tweets from three years ago listed. Thanks elon
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:'They crunched for Halo 2 and nowadays have stopped' is right up there with 'Germany was up to no good in WW1 but have stopped nowadays'... kinda dismissing a lot of people's pain there RocketRaygun posted:DAE think working 60 hours a week is just like the holocaust? These are bad posts and you should both feel bad.
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Aug 8, 2023 16:02
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OOF. https://twitter.com/gammaknight1/status/1688673838916317186?s=46&t=DT925tMY54SwGEv9vbPHUw
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Honestly the event was kind of boring and the armor rolls I got were poo poo and it didn't seem worth it. I did get all the new weapons, though. The stasis handgun is just awful.
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i came back sunday and thought about trying to grind out the event (certainly a better EAZ activity than the one they had a couple years ago, which was fun to do exactly once and then i never wanted to touch again) but the guns didn't really seem worth it kind of a dumb metric though because i'd say if 3% of every player who has ever put more than 10 hours into this game got one of those, it's not that bad? i assume most people just dip between expansions, i dunno, lots of games out there right now. y'all heard about this "baldur's gate 3"?
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the rocket launcher has poo poo perks and an underwhelming element and was offered during the end of season doldrums when the solstice armor tuning was far less important than it was last year because the majority of players who wanted or needed that level of fine-tuning on their armor drops already had it the most exciting part of this year's solstice was the armor sets looking extremely good and you could get a full set by simply talking to eva
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The armor was nice for speeding up hitting my way to pinnacle gear and it looks pretty alright. The rocket launcher has some fun rolls too. I never shot the handcannon because Crimson is the only one I will ever use. I liked the event but apparently nobody but me figured out you can throw the igniters from anywhere and it works so we only hit max ignition like twice lol
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Kith posted:the most exciting part of this year's solstice was the armor sets looking extremely good and you could get a full set by simply talking to eva Followed closely by not having to grind out the glows on all three characters.
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to be fair long-distance ignitions take effort because if the orbs hit terrain then they're wasted so lots of people avoided trying so they didn't screw upPERMACAV 50 posted:Followed closely by not having to grind out the glows on all three characters. who the gently caress has three characters in this gently caress-rear end game
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I do but I only play the warlock alt if I need to do something like get this god damned dinklebot from the dreaming city (though the nova bomb engine build is fun) The hunter is there for free goodies whenever Bungie hands em out
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RBA Starblade posted:I liked the event but apparently nobody but me figured out you can throw the igniters from anywhere and it works so we only hit max ignition like twice lol (And I didn't mind the event, but it's the first time I've done it, so I could understand people being annoyed if it's barely different than previous years.)
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PERMACAV 50 posted:OOF. https://twitter.com/gammaknight1/status/1688673838916317186?s=46&t=DT925tMY54SwGEv9vbPHUw Drops at the end of each run were heavily skewed towards armor, I got multiple armor pieces from the bonfire and a handful of guns. I don't hold anything against Solstice as a particular add-on to seasonal stuff, grinding up more stuff as you're doing other grinding, but as a thing to do for the sake of doing it? It was pretty bad.
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I did enough solstice to get the ship, and got a few rocket launchers along the way which was nice, but I kinda dont like playing strand titan anyway (and this season has some killer void/arc builds) But solstice is pretty grindy yeah
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abraham linksys posted:kind of a dumb metric though because i'd say if 3% of every player who has ever put more than 10 hours into this game got one of those, it's not that bad? i assume most people just dip between expansions, i dunno, lots of games out there right now. y'all heard about this "baldur's gate 3"? This is correct.
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I have no idea what the tool he used to measure that is, he doesn't link it, he doesn't provide any other weapons for comparison and taking a quick look at his feed, his entire personality seems to be based around hating Destiny, so, color me skeptical.
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that looks like warmind.io, but i have no idea how they actually calculate their numbers. light.gg also has a little display for what percentage of the playerbase has a thing, so i'm guessing the API exposes the number somehow, but i don't know what "adjusted" means.
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MJeff posted:I have no idea what the tool he used to measure that is, he doesn't link it, he doesn't provide any other weapons for comparison and taking a quick look at his feed, his entire personality seems to be based around hating Destiny, so, color me skeptical. It’s just Charlemagne / warmind.io one of the various api scraping tools that collect/and compile data for the game so you can actually figure what poo poo is because the game itself is garbage at providing information. https://warmind.io/analytics/item/rocket-launchers Rocket launcher page to compare against the rest. All info on your guardian is shown to everyone via api so these places can scrap pretty extensively what the playerbase has. You have to opt out of it but last i checked barely anyone does.
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MJeff posted:I have no idea what the tool he used to measure that is, he doesn't link it, he doesn't provide any other weapons for comparison and taking a quick look at his feed, his entire personality seems to be based around hating Destiny, so, color me skeptical. Chuck will tell you this type of stuff. Not sure if it can pull from everyone or only people who have registered. https://warmind.io/
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:It’s just Charlemagne / warmind.io one of the various api scraping tools that collect/and compile data for the game so you can actually figure what poo poo is because the game itself is garbage at providing information. Okay yeah when loving Gjallarhorn is at 4%, I'm not gonna take this thing being at 1.2% as some kind of referendum.
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Grinding solstice to reroll armor to 55-61 stat points is lame. RAhool gave me a cracked natural 70 hoiL for the cost of a few strikes.
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MJeff posted:Okay yeah when loving Gjallarhorn is at 4%, I'm not gonna take this thing being at 1.2% as some kind of referendum. That seems like a bad example to pick. 4% of for all accounts, 10% for people with more than 10 hours of playtime and you picked the one gun that’s entirely gated behind a separate purchase that’s not within the deluxe pack for the year (and even if you do buy it you still have to do the quest/dungeon for it). 10% for gjally is actually pretty good all things considered.
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Rip to anyone who paid silver for this shader lol https://twitter.com/destinybulletn/status/1688967208096219136?s=46&t=DT925tMY54SwGEv9vbPHUw Ada-1 also has a FWC shader she hasn’t sold before (War Cult Endgame)
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:That seems like a bad example to pick. 4% of for all accounts, 10% for people with more than 10 hours of playtime and you picked the one gun that’s entirely gated behind a separate purchase that’s not within the deluxe pack for the year (and even if you do buy it you still have to do the quest/dungeon for it). 10% for gjally is actually pretty good all things considered. Fine, then, Bump In The Night. Craftable gun, only gated behind the season, only stasis rocket launcher in the game until very recently, I'm pretty sure it got some significant buzz because of its perk pool when it came out. Probably pretty safe to say if you spent any real time on Season of the Haunted, you got a Bump in the Night at some point. Global rarity 3.2%, adjusted rarity 8%. That's not that much higher than Duologue, a gun that was only in the game for three weeks. Majere posted:Grinding solstice to reroll armor to 55-61 stat points is lame. RAhool gave me a cracked natural 70 hoiL for the cost of a few strikes. I got a few 64-67s, but I was also getting a lot of 60s and 61s and as low as 59s, with the spark inserted, which, what?
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PERMACAV 50 posted:Rip to anyone who paid silver for this shader lol https://twitter.com/destinybulletn/status/1688967208096219136?s=46&t=DT925tMY54SwGEv9vbPHUw Welp, now I have egg on my face But I guess this confirms those silver weapon ornament and shader bundles will be in the bright dust rotation eventually (maybe)
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