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pik_d posted:Yeah I've decided that the best way to do this is go all in. Either I'm right and it's great, or I'm wrong and it's funny.
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CapnAndy posted:You discount the possibility that you're right and it's funny. Also being wrong and it's greatfor everyone else.
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It's been interesting reading Way of Kings with having some outside knowledge both due to other books and people. pik_d no clicky: Like, I know that Wit is Hoid. And I'm curious how long I'm going to have to wait for that reveal. That was thanks to a friend of mine that loves the Stormlight Archive mentioning it a while back.
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Mordiceius posted:It's been interesting reading Way of Kings with having some outside knowledge both due to other books and people. I'd say like 75% through the first book
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to be fair, if you have read the other books it's a fair guess that the biggest rear end in a top hat in the room is hoid
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Tunicate posted:to be fair, if you have read the other books it's a fair guess that the biggest rear end in a top hat in the room is hoid Yeah I remember reading WoK and immediately picking it up solely based on other cosmere books.
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Tunicate posted:to be fair, if you have read the other books it's a fair guess that the biggest rear end in a top hat in the room is hoid I'm actually curious to spend (what I assume will be) a larger percentage of time with Hoid since in all the books I've read thus far, he barely has but a few lines. My greatest fear with regard to the future of the Cosmere as a whole is honestly I hope that Brandon doesn't lean too heavily on Hoid and make him too central of a figure. Cameos are good and such, but now he's the narrator of multiple secret project books. And as of right now, I don't find Hoid to be a particularly compelling or interesting character and I don't want him to turn into Brandon's favorite pet that is the most special boy and boy isn't he clever and amazing and perfect.
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socialsecurity posted:I'd say like 75% through the first book I know this is a very silly way to do things, but based on how big the spoiler bar is and what might be revealed at around this point, is it that Wit is Hoid? I've suspected this for a bit but haven't seen those involved for a while.
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Aug 9, 2023 04:51
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pik_d posted:I know this is a very silly way to do things, but based on how big the spoiler bar is and what might be revealed at around this point, is it that Wit is Hoid? I've suspected this for a bit but haven't seen those involved for a while. You're far too good at this.
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Mordiceius posted:You're far too good at this. Nice. I'm guessing I shouldn't read that longer spoiler bar just above my guess.
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pik_d posted:I know this is a very silly way to do things, but based on how big the spoiler bar is and what might be revealed at around this point, is it that Wit is Hoid? I've suspected this for a bit but haven't seen those involved for a while. If you really wanna know Yeah, it's him, at this point though you really aren't supposed to think much of that beyond "haven't I heard that name before" unless you've been exposed to lots of outside the book stuff
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Aug 9, 2023 04:54
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That one isn't particularly well hidden though.
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pik_d posted:Nice. I'm guessing I shouldn't read that longer spoiler bar just above my guess. Nah. I think you're probably fine. It was more just me talking about the character in my thoughts in the larger context. The only "spoilers" are the framing conceits for two of the secret project books, but I don't think that really matters.
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socialsecurity posted:If you really wanna know Yeah, it's him, at this point though you really aren't supposed to think much of that beyond "haven't I heard that name before" unless you've been exposed to lots of outside the book stuff Elantris/Mistborn Era 1/Warbreaker. This is the first time he hasn't gone by his name, so it was a little bit of a question mark, but it all fit together with the trio searching for Hoid in the wrong place, and him knowing just a bit too much. Knowledge seems to be his thing in all the series I've read so far. It wasn't really a stretch. And after reading those other series I did catch some quote about him basically being in every series, though he wasn't named in Well of Ascension.
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pik_d posted:Elantris/Mistborn Era 1/Warbreaker. This is the first time he hasn't gone by his name, so it was a little bit of a question mark, but it all fit together with the trio searching for Hoid in the wrong place, and him knowing just a bit too much. Knowledge seems to be his thing in all the series I've read so far. It wasn't really a stretch. And after reading those other series I did catch some quote about him basically being in every series, though he wasn't named in Well of Ascension. It does help that Wit is the name all the King's Wits go by so it's more like a title. But yeah this is the first time you see him do more than 2 sentences worth of things Mordiceius posted:I'm actually curious to spend (what I assume will be) a larger percentage of time with Hoid since in all the books I've read thus far, he barely has but a few lines. I had these exact same fears It's really not so bad you can tell Sanderson is torn behind making him too much the main character and wanting to use him more. If you've seen Orville it weirdly reminds me of how they handled Seth's character where there's an obvious push to make him the center of things but they are willing to take the piss out of him too.
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Tunicate posted:to be fair, if you have read the other books it's a fair guess that the biggest rear end in a top hat in the room is hoid Aw, come on. Sometimes it's Sadeas. If we someday discover that this person secretly had really opposite motivations for their actions I am going to be mad.
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CK07 posted:Aw, come on. Sometimes it's Sadeas ahgsjfhbjahb. We've been in their head, they are as bad as we think they are, I'd say there's zero percent chance for that to happen. Also, people might want to use bigger spoiler bars as to not make it too obvious for our new readers to guess which characters we're talking about based on the length of the bar. This is especially obvious with characters like Wit, of course.
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I just got my Cosmere lootbox from the Kickstarter. This one is full of stuff I will actually use! It's got a travel toiletries bag (nice and thick and good to stop your shampoo from getting everywhere) as well as a luggage tag.
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Quick question I've thought of after the sketch at the end of Way of Kings Chapter 54 (Spoiler for how content is presented, not actual story information) The notes of this sketch are not in English, to me that means that Brandon Sanderson does not want me to know what it says right now. That's fine, if annoying. I do feel like looking for a translation would constitute a spoiler so I don't want to know what it says (yet). But it made me think about authorial intent of knowledge in the Ars Arcanum, I've been avoiding them until I finish the book because part of the mystery of the magic is clearly explained in some of them, like Mistborn and Warbreaker. How do the rest of y'all treat the Ars Arcanum? Do you look to them before finishing the book or not?
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I always read the Ars Arcanum after finishing the books. I've looked at WoK's Ars Arcanum, and it basically doesn't tell you anything you couldn't/shouldn't know. There are some minor fabrials that I don't think made an appearance in the text itself, but it's just a bit of world building. That said, there definitely are spoilers for the novel in there, even if it just explains the used magical powers. I wouldn't recommend reading the Ars Arcanum before finishing a Cosmere novel.
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there's also some times at least minor cross-cosmere spoilers in the ars arcanum (though not anything i would personally care about) because they are "written" by an in-world researcher and although I can't think of anything where it's extremely wrong, that writer has limited knowledge and it's not "objective" material that's guaranteed to be 100% correct
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pik_d posted:Quick question I've thought of after the sketch at the end of Way of Kings Chapter 54
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But searching for stuff online is quite likely to spoil other things, so it may not be worth it to look that up.
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Man, I'd forgotten how quickly Mistborn goes from zero to "You are the chosen one Vin"
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ConfusedUs posted:I just got my Cosmere lootbox from the Kickstarter. This one is full of stuff I will actually use! It's got a travel toiletries bag (nice and thick and good to stop your shampoo from getting everywhere) as well as a luggage tag. I was pretty pleased with this one.
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Echophonic posted:I was pretty pleased with this one.
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Favorite Cosmere Book: The Emperor's Soul Favorite Magic System: Allomancy Knight Radiant Order: ??? Favorite Cosmere Character: Lightsong / Sazed First Sanderson Book: The Gathering Storm Book With Best Sanderlanche: The Hero of Ages
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Favorite Cosmere Book: The Final Empire Favorite Magic System: Allomancy Knight Radiant Order: ??? Favorite Cosmere Character: Vin / Lightsong / Wayne First Sanderson Book: The Final Empire Book With Best Sanderlanche: The Hero of Ages
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Favorite book: Oathbringer Favorite Magic System: Forgery Favorite Radiant Order: Edgedancers Favorite Cosmere Characters: Teft, Breeze, Shai First Sanderson Book: Favorite Sanderlanche: Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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great this thread’s about to become unreadable for two pages
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Fair game picking one of his WoT books, I didn't even consider them when thinking of my own selection. Oathbringer has the best sanderlanche, don't even try to pretend otherwise.
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Arrath posted:Oathbringer has the best sanderlanche, don't even try to pretend otherwise. Did he always look so small?
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Arrath posted:Fair game picking one of his WoT books, I didn't even consider them when thinking of my own selection. Oathbringer the battle of Thaylen Field and descriptions of later Radiant combat really makes me want a Cosmere Battlefront where you can windrun over Mos Eisley and find enemy Fused to duel
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Half of Dracula posted:Oathbringer the battle of Thaylen Field and descriptions of later Radiant combat really makes me want a Cosmere Battlefront where you can windrun over Mos Eisley and find enemy Fused to duel I didn't know I wanted this until just now.
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pik_d posted:But it made me think about authorial intent of knowledge in the Ars Arcanum, I've been avoiding them until I finish the book because part of the mystery of the magic is clearly explained in some of them, like Mistborn and Warbreaker. How do the rest of y'all treat the Ars Arcanum? Do you look to them before finishing the book or not? eke out posted:and although I can't think of anything where it's extremely wrong, that writer has limited knowledge and it's not "objective" material that's guaranteed to be 100% correct Atium is mistakenly listed in the metals charts in the first three books as though it's one of the base 16 metals. It's not; that spot should actually be Cadmium. Of course, atium was widely considered a normal metal at the time and in any case, Lord Ruler era technology probably didn't even know Cadmium existed, so can't really blame the writer for screwing up the chart. MagusofStars fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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scary ghost dog posted:great this thread’s about to become unreadable for two pages I hate favorite/most wanted lists.
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Louisgod's list of hates:
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We're talking about really cool poo poo behind those spoilers too
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pik_d posted:Louisgod's list of hates: My list of likes:
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