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empireofcrime posted:what disease is going to snap people out of capitalist malaise treat mode? exploding organ syndrome? a disease that makes you smell like poo poo? what is it gonna take 'When will people stop selfishly seeking self-gratification at the expense of societal wellbeing' is the wrong question. As long as bosses are allowed to demand people's labor in exchange for pay, and as long as landlords are allowed to demand that pay in exchange for housing, people will demand to be allowed to do things they enjoy outside of work hours. The majority of people will not tolerate (what they perceive to be) a life of pure toil without material reward. The real question is 'how long will capital value wealth extraction over public health', and the answer is 'literally forever'. The only way people begin acting in the interests of public health is if capital is brought to heel and public health becomes a good-faith bargain between the individual and society.
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One of the two restaurants in town closed last night, night before due to "illness" They aren't open tues/weds anyway... Let's see if they can keep the streak goinnnn Open Er Uuuup Andthencloseerdown
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empireofcrime posted:what disease is going to snap people out of capitalist malaise treat mode? exploding organ syndrome? a disease that makes you smell like poo poo? what is it gonna take Sometimes I wonder how bad public health would have to be to collapse industrial capitalism, then I remember victorian england and lmao
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ibid posted:cautioning pillowpants, who has LC, not to take a ten day course of pax and take a five day course instead because of "stewardship" and rebound. It’s terrible advice, but it’s an accurate preview of our looming future in which such restrictions will be enforced against plebeians but not patricians. The post‐antibiotic future is already here–it’s just not evenly distributed.
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Big Worker sounds like an op to me. https://twitter.com/Big_Worker/status/1688168272162598914 e: it's about the dsa thing, not too many masks at a fascists meeting I bet. lol. quote:Wow great drawings! What's with so many people wearing masks in them though? Seems like they would be a very rough way to spend a multi-day convention https://nitter.net/Big_Worker/status/1688168272162598914#m ibid has issued a correction as of 01:51 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Platystemon posted:It’s terrible advice, but it’s an accurate preview of our looming future in which such restrictions will be enforced against plebeians but not patricians. Was it Fauci or Walensky who gave themselves a double dose?
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Platystemon posted:It’s terrible advice, but it’s an accurate preview of our looming future in which such restrictions will be enforced against plebeians but not patricians. And poppers, it seems, will be one of the people doing the enforcing. A scab.
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Aug 9, 2023 01:34
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DickParasite posted:Was it Fauci or Walensky who gave themselves a double dose? That was Anthony Stephen Fauci, MD, the world’s foremost expert on infectious disease.
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Platystemon posted:That was Anthony Stephen Fauci, MD, the world’s foremost expert on infectious disease. Infinite paxlovid for me, hand sanitizer for thee.
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CGI Stardust posted:my first thought is women might be more represented due to type of employment leading to greater exposure and infection rates - in the UK, USA, and Canada ~75% of teachers are women; that would probably have an impact. idk how that breaks down for the medical profession in each country (or other high-exposure occupations); might be similar? But it's people who have symptoms past 3 months as a pecentage of people who get infected, so that's factored in..
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HazCat posted:'When will people stop selfishly seeking self-gratification at the expense of societal wellbeing' is the wrong question. good post
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Aug 9, 2023 01:43
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If there are any Trek fans here, Wil Wheaton posted this masked video (sorry, can't embed Instagram). I know it doesn't really matter, but it's nice when folks with a broader audience publicly acknowledge this poo poo. I also saw Seth MacFarlane mention long COVID on Twitter (and subsequently get dogpiled on). Celebs plz save us, it's the only way people will listen!
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Aug 9, 2023 01:51
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CPU Abuser posted:Why not use an elastomeric? mentioned it in a separate post but i've tried one before, my nose is crooked, so i can't get a good seal on the left side of one 9105 works great for me though, easily the best of the disposables
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Jort Fortress posted:If there are any Trek fans here, Wil Wheaton posted this masked video (sorry, can't embed Instagram). if tom hanks had died of Covid in 2020 we’d have beaten it. corollary: if he died of Covid tomorrow it wouldn’t change anyone’s mind
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hailthefish posted:Yes! YES! IT'S CRAZY AND EXHAUSTING HOW loving INSANE IT IS! Like, say what you will about Open Biden it's at least a completely straightforward and uncomplicated assertion that Applebee's and office building landlords are more important than however many people die and they're done pretending otherwise.
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DickParasite posted:Was it Fauci or Walensky who gave themselves a double dose? Walensky was the one who got Covid and then disappeared for like 17 days - a totally normal thing that us pleabs can definitely also do.
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Aug 9, 2023 02:27
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fosborb posted:maybe covid was right lol, this is what 2 yrs of people demanding to see your smile drives a person to
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tuyop posted:I have hope that the global nature of our civilization and the technical bottlenecks we have (like how many people actually know how to fix a modern dairy’s machines? how many people know how to train those people? etc) will buck this historical trend since we could just run out of people who can do the work that needs to happen. but when that happened before, capital just expanded the membership until literal children are doing vital work. may be no hope, idk. but then even if you run out of those you can some dudes to manually milk the cows for a share of the cheese
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yeah that’s right. they’ll definitely just downgrade their tech level before anything lets up.
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hailthefish posted:Yes! YES! IT'S CRAZY AND EXHAUSTING HOW loving INSANE IT IS! Like, say what you will about Open Biden it's at least a completely straightforward and uncomplicated assertion that Applebee's and office building landlords are more important than however many people die and they're done pretending otherwise. It's funny because i've been hung up on that mental gynastics poo poo ever since someone linked this comic about someone catching covid and bringing it to FFXIV's fanfest: https://twitter.com/Fenrir74/status/1687861130562273281?s=20 and they (and everyone on twitter) is jumping on them for being sick in public and I've honestly got more sympathy for the comic artist than the people jumping on them at this point like the options, at this point, are - you subscribe to the reality that what Everyone Told You is true, Covid is over and No Big Deal and Get Out And Live, or - you subscribe to the reality that it's actually still a problem, and everyone treating it like no problem is a bigger problem, and public health is a dead concept and even the idea of masking to prevent the infection of yourself and others has been reduced to "it's a personal decision  " so maybe you should be yelling about that aspect of it?but you can't have it both ways, it's not "it's not a problem until someone mentions they got unlucky in which case it's now their own personal failing and they should be dragged over the coals for catching an infectious disease that everyone told them they could ignore", gently caress outta here, and i guarantee any of those fuckers yelling are doing equally risky poo poo and either just haven't gotten unlucky or more likely did get unlucky but just didn't bother testing because "it's just allergies/a cold/con funk, don't worry about it" so they're clear of this extreme moral failing, unlike the comic artist, who sure as gently caress won't be telling anyone next time they test positive good job, everyone! public health is solved!
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Anywhere the rich go, sickness will follow them
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Tzen posted:lol for real it's amazing how stupid and dumb this hell world is, was, and always will be
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ibid posted:And poppers, it seems, will be one of the people doing the enforcing. A scab. 
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Platystemon posted:That was Anthony Stephen Fauci, MD, the world’s foremost expert on infectious disease. he's qualified to give himself 100 days of pax if he wants. nobody here is qualified to even glance at paxlovid without proper eye protection. 
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Where is the latest covid lineage map Public schools started here yesterday, gonna go get a booster shot Presumably the new XBB booster will be available sometime before Thanksgiving? Kind of surprised it wasn't ready for first week of school
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Hadlock posted:Kind of surprised it wasn't ready for first week of school Why? What about the response to this crisis made you think that it'd be ready in a timely fashion?
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Hadlock posted:Where is the latest covid lineage map They haven't even decided who will "qualify" for one. It might only be recommended for the elderly and immunocompromised bc we live in hell But maybe it won't matter anyway since XBB will have peaced out by then 
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Hadlock posted:Where is the latest covid lineage map Steve Yun posted:https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7264546722511211781 Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:
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Also why would there be a booster shot ready for school starting? Covid is mild, kids don't get covid, schools are not disease pits, hell they don't even get vaccinated against covid statistically speaking! lol my good man lol
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tangy yet delightful posted:Also why would there be a booster shot ready for school starting? Covid is mild, kids don't get covid, schools are not disease pits, hell they don't even get vaccinated against covid statistically speaking! This is not the JCVI Platystemon has issued a correction as of 06:03 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Platystemon posted:This is not the JCVI tryout Zoom meeting. ah yep sorry I was in the wrong tab 
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10176264/ how COVID can infect you in shared meal situations!   we noticed that a lot of people get infected in restaurants and bars! we think it might be the removal of masks and the spittle getting onto your food. did we bother to separate the two factors to see if one was more responsible for infections than the other? no!  look at all these droplets you emit when having a conversation! did we measure aerosols? no!  anyways, consider having plexiglass between you and your guest or sitting side by side so that their infected droplets don’t get on your food!
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Lmao it works when vomiting blood too!
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I briefly felt like I was going to have some kind of stress-based medical event myself. Yes, how mysterious, how could dining with other people allow you to be vulnerable to a pathogen borne on the air? Truly, a mystery for the ages, because the economy runs on restaurants and dining out can't be inherently risky, reality simply wouldn't permit that, so it must be that you need to sit side by side instead because man it seems like people get sick in shared dining arrangements a lot even though the government keeps saying dining out is safe the virus must be using some sneaky workaround to our detente So, either by callousness or idiocy we've arrived at maliciousness. Just terrible, terrible advice. At least people who acknowledge that they aren't going to change their behavior because they don't give a poo poo are honest; this garbage advice of 'SURELY this One Weird Trick is how you won't catch a highly infectious disease while sharing the plague air!' poo poo should, in a slightly better world, trigger some kind of trial process or inquiry or whatever to determine what dumbass gave the go-ahead to publish this and why. Shady Amish Terror has issued a correction as of 08:08 on Aug 9, 2023 |
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Mola Yam posted:(SAFELY) perennial thread title
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NeonPunk posted:The other day, I saw someone telling a local weatherman to stop reporting on the high temperatures because it's trying to control people? What are you going to put your trust in, the TV weather man's "numbers" and "facts" or using your eyes to look out the window at the lovely and obviously non-apocalyptic weather??? 
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I dropped into my local pharmacist so I could check out their availability on Flo Travel saline nasal spray with carrageenan: .... and to confirm that the bottles didn't have a foil seal. The nasal spray was ready to go when I opened the pack, also the nozzle is heat-shrunk onto the bottle and not screw on so if they had put a foil seal under there I wouldn't have even been able to access it  E: also a funny sign I spotted. We used to have signs absolutely everywhere warning everyone "Keep 1.5m distance at all times!!! Oh god, the covid will get you if you get any closer!!!" but what happens if your building has a tiny elevator and it's not physically possible for two people to get inside it and move 1.5m away from each other? Life finds a way! 
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Really important pre-print just dropped. Recent XBB infections will not save us from EG, also humoral immunity induced by breakthrough infection appears to be declining with the emergence of new dominant variants https://twitter.com/systemsvirology/status/1689151538038743040?s=46&t=J2BqIfsmzti0Wyc0pYNkXg https://twitter.com/systemsvirology/status/1689151582435528704?s=46&t=J2BqIfsmzti0Wyc0pYNkXg
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