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Vox Nihili posted:Lahaina is gone
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 21:11 |
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Vox Nihili posted:No power on Maui. Cell service is mostly gone. Only one real road available to evacuate the populated area and new fires are popping up everywhere. The second video has a dead or likely soon to be body towards the very end, might consider mentioning that in your post. These videos are reminding me of the Gatlinburg TN wildfire videos from 2016.
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 21:18 |
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Vox Nihili posted:
They drive past a dead person in the second one in case anybody is wondering how "unpleasant"
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 21:19 |
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Dog Case posted:They drive past a dead person in the second one in case anybody is wondering how "unpleasant" Yeah added that. Basically posted these in real time while watching
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 21:22 |
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drat. Looks like Paradise, CA.
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 22:01 |
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SirPablo posted:drat. Looks like Paradise, CA. That was my thought too. Came on fast, and only one exit route. Horrible.
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 22:18 |
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Meanwhile, in Norway.
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 22:18 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Lahaina is gone whole town's just smoldering rubble, jesus https://twitter.com/WxNB_/status/1689384898958917633
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 22:30 |
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so one of the Hawaiian islands has basically burned down and a glacier exploded in Alaska and floored an area with more water than even the worst case predictions for that area. this is all fine and good lol
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 22:31 |
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It was windy and the air was kinda weird and foggy yesterday on the Big Island but I wasn't expecting to wake up to hurricane fires...
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 22:44 |
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They're saying that the wind has died down enough that they can get choppers in the air on Maui. Far too late for a lot of older people who weren't ready to flee at a moment's notice.
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 22:49 |
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they're only reporting 6 dead so far but it's hard not to imagine that number growing substantially
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 23:14 |
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aftermath on the ground in Lahaina TW: unidentifiable dead animals https://twitter.com/larryhuynh/status/1689387306665574402 looks like the Banyan Tree got burned pretty badly, not sure if it can survive that
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 23:28 |
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jesus
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# ? Aug 9, 2023 23:40 |
How did this even happen? I would have thought Hawaii would be too wet for this kind of thing.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 00:43 |
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skooma512 posted:How did this even happen? I would have thought Hawaii would be too wet for this kind of thing. drought + 60 mph gusts from a nearby cat 4 hurricane (but not near enough/oriented to bring rain or moisture) also, the leeward portions of Maui are surprisingly dry to begin with:
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 00:49 |
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When is the last time an American town burned like that, not a town that a forest fire swept over, like Paradise, but a building‐to‐building fire? 1928?
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 00:57 |
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Platystemon posted:When is the last time an American town burned like that, not a town that a forest fire swept over, like Paradise, but a building‐to‐building fire?? 1928? Part of Santa Rosa burned when the Tubbs fire burned into town. It was a wildfire but at that point it was just burning buildings and houses
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 01:00 |
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Dog Case posted:Part of Santa Rosa burned when the Tubbs fire burned into town. It was a wildfire but at that point it was just burning buildings and houses Yeah, 2017. I remember a video of Berkley(?) firefighters driving in to help, and when they got their, the staging area was already burned down.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 01:09 |
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The Almeda Fire in Oregon in Sep 2020 comes to mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwvmdxKRiE4
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 01:47 |
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Dog Case posted:Part of Santa Rosa burned when the Tubbs fire burned into town. It was a wildfire but at that point it was just burning buildings and houses yeah, Santa Rosa was a very similar scenario. the fire came in overnight, fed by powerful gusts of wind and hot, dry air, and caught people almost totally by surprise
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 01:48 |
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I think this might be the event to crack ping a lot of folks I'm certainly in awe. Can't wait for my turn at natural disaster (freezing to death in Texas)
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 02:18 |
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It's in Hawaii, that's practically a foreign country and extremely removed from the East Coast. The needle won't budge.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 02:22 |
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Howdges posted:I think this might be the event to crack ping a lot of folks This sentiment is common, sensible for the vanishing few of us with empathy and a real grasp of material reality, and laudable. but nope, not even a little bit.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 03:20 |
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Gunshow Poophole posted:This sentiment is common, sensible for the vanishing few of us with empathy and a real grasp of material reality, and laudable. but nope, not even a little bit. I really love being ostracized and made to suffer extra for the sin of being able to imagine the suffering of others, really great society amazing 5 stars
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 03:30 |
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x-post before & after shot before after Lahaina was the capital of the early Hawaiian Kingdom and was an important cultural location on modern Maui, it's really lovely that it got hit instead of one of the many unremarkable resort and golf course conglomerates down the road
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 03:31 |
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SirPablo posted:It's in Hawaii, that's practically a foreign country and extremely removed from the East Coast. The needle won't budge. now now white people are trying to refund their vacations
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 03:31 |
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Looks like it was totally bombed out. Just rubble. Superior Colorado (near Boulder) was partially wiped out in freak wind fire last December, but not the same scale.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 03:56 |
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"Freak wind" is now "regular wind"
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 04:04 |
Vox Nihili posted:x-post before & after shot needs to be seen by everyone.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 04:09 |
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all the trees and most of the buildings reduced to ashes. gently caress. how many people just lost their homes?
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 04:19 |
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SirPablo posted:It's in Hawaii, that's practically a foreign country and extremely removed from the East Coast. The needle won't budge. This might be Hawaii's Pearl Harbor moment.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 04:30 |
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ex post facho posted:"Freak wind" is now "regular wind" this was the Marshall fire, that just popped up randomly in December and obliterated the town in hours. Not even a forested area, just a grass fire whipped up by crazy winds after extended drought https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgP0_9q6VqY
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 04:40 |
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We're going to see more of these things as housing has expanded into dry and forested regions into towns that didn't exist 10 years prior. Probably partially why there is such a big issue with insurance markets lately.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 04:50 |
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildland%E2%80%93urban_interface
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 05:14 |
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Vox Nihili posted:yeah, Santa Rosa was a very similar scenario. the fire came in overnight, fed by powerful gusts of wind and hot, dry air, and caught people almost totally by surprise I'm a Santa Rosan, and waking up reading about Lahaina brought back all kinds of memories. We've been evacuated a couple times since 2017 too, for fires that got close. At least we expect it now. Poor Lahainans are going to fear windy days for the rest of their lives, we sure do.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 06:38 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Lahaina is gone Gonna have to edit that terrible names meme but it's climate proof and we just crossed off Hawaii Shame, and also shocking. Bigger city than I expected
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 08:11 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:Gonna have to edit that terrible names meme but it's climate proof and we just crossed off Hawaii Hawaii was never climate proof because it's not food self-sufficient (at least now)
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 08:16 |
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Bip Roberts posted:Hawaii was never climate proof because it's not food self-sufficient (at least now) Also it's prone to cyclones which with sea level temperatures rising isn't exactly great thing to have. Also low level areas will be underwater, or prone to flooding it's predicted: https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/hawaii-wave-sea-level-rise-b2125990.html So yeah for many reasons climate change will probably really suck for Hawaii. Not as much as some pacific island country that will pretty much just be straight up just underwater at high tide, but way down the list of places I would of thought of as less likely to be affected by climate change.
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 08:44 |
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https://imgur.com/uzcBRDC drat. Shifty Pony has issued a correction as of 12:23 on Aug 10, 2023 |
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# ? Aug 10, 2023 12:19 |